Assuming We Do All The Trades..Will We Be Better?

[damienc]

Now, there is a question.

I, for one, would be interested in knowing what other Saints supporters think?

We will be a very different footy team when you look at our possible best 22, especially so if we can welcome back Dylan Roberton, with no health problems.

Is it good enough to give the eight a shake?

Another good question.

It is all very well recruiting good players. But premierships are won by good teams not individual players.

Our new recruits need to gel with the other guys. Make them better players and vice versa.

It doesn't always work completely. For example, I think Dylan Shiel was a better player with GWS than with the Bummers.

But I've got a good feeling about the five we are getting. All of them can play. All of them have proved it in the past. Some more consistently than others.

But I also think Ratts has a good footy brain. I think the players have more freedom and better communication with him than with Richo. Just my observation and opinion.

I guess we all look optimistically to next year hoping for improvement.

All I will say is, I am liking the look of what could be our new look footy team.

[Enrico_Misso]

Am optimistic too.

But to put the downside.
- I am not sold on Hill. Great ball getter but often butchers it.
- giving away a 50 goal a year forward (scarce commodities)
- giving away a recent AA mid (scarce commodities).

But happy with the other potential top-up picks.
And have a lot faith and respect for Ratts.

[B.M]

Who is the 50 goal forward?

Who is the AA midfielder?

[PADDLEPOP1001]

Positives for me will be We have unproven potential top 20 talent in Bytel & King and a
full season from Hanna’s ,Carlisle full season
& Battle could be an a grade utility,as well as our recruiting!

[Secret Kiel]

Am optimistic too.

But to put the downside.
- I am not sold on Hill. Great ball getter but often butchers it.
- giving away a 50 goal a year forward (scarce commodities)
- giving away a recent AA mid (scarce commodities).

But happy with the other potential top-up picks.
And have a lot faith and respect for Ratts.

Hill's kicking is considered elite in terms of the number of kicks and when at the Hawks his efficiency was through the roof but slipped a little under Lyon's coaching due to less emphasis placed on skills training. Expect Brad will once again enjoy a training regime that includes a huge emphasis on skills training which hopefully sees Brad's sublime distribution return to the upper elite regions once again.

Brad Hill > Jack Steven

Josh Bruce < predicted potential in King and Co. (RoMa and Ryder to bridge the gap while we wait and see if Max can make it) with possibly cameo performances from Carlise, Battle and Howard).

Is it me or is there all of a sudden a huge amount of versatility in our list.

[CURLY]

Who is the 50 goal forward?

Who is the AA midfielder?

Membrey has the tools to kick 50.

Hill, Hannebry, Billings, Gresham, Clark as the mid field group to go the next level.

[B.M]

Depends on luck with injuries

Last year our highest paid players missed large chunks of the season

Steven, Hannebury, Carlisle, Geary, Roberton

Amongs other key injuries

Amazed we won 9

[Stephen Theodore]

Depends on luck with injuries

Last year our highest paid players missed large chunks of the season

Steven, Hannebury, Carlisle, Geary, Roberton

Amongs other key injuries

Amazed we won 9

Yep, I agree, and hence with a bit of luck with injuries, reckon there’s a fair bit of upside

[Secret Kiel]

Depends on luck with injuries

Last year our highest paid players missed large chunks of the season

Steven, Hannebury, Carlisle, Geary, Roberton

Amongs other key injuries

Amazed we won 9

the fact we won 9 shows the list wasn't all that bad considering how bad we were hit with injuries, also shows the development wasn't as poor as some make out, now add, Dan Han. Brad Hill, Zac Jones, Dougal Howard, Buttler, Robert Dylan, a Jake Carlise with a full pre season (hopefully), Hunter and Coffield continuing their upward trajectory, Max King to possible establish himself but not really that important in 2020 if the RoMa and Ryder combo are firing up forward.

I'd expect there will be quite the exciting buildup to round 1 if the pre season goes well. Can't wait. The exciting times have returned hopefully.

[Kate]

Mostly positive for us with the exception of Ryder.

[longtimesaint]

I think we will regret trading Bruce unless King can be exceptional.
At 19 and not yet played a game it is a big ask.

[maverick]

We had a really easy draw last year that’s how we won 9 games

[B.M]

You’ve still got to win 9 games, regardless.

Better run with injuries we would have won 11

It’s showed we were better than some clubs, and better than predicted, some considered us wooden spoon material.

[longtimesaint]

You’ve still got to win 9 games, regardless.

Better run with injuries we would have won 11

It’s showed we were better than some clubs, and better than predicted, some considered us wooden spoon material.

At least two of those wins we wouldn’t have got without Bruce.

[CURLY]

You’ve still got to win 9 games, regardless.

Better run with injuries we would have won 11

It’s showed we were better than some clubs, and better than predicted, some considered us wooden spoon material.

At least two of those wins we wouldn’t have got without Bruce.

So we lost another 11 with him then.

[Secret Kiel]

With Jack Steven and Dan Hannebery in the team we would have won at least another 1 to 2 more games, (the Freo game in Freo for example we pulled up short in the midfield).
you could probably mount a strong argument too that Lonie's loss hurt us as much as any other, throw him in and we probably beat Adelaide before he went down, swung the momentum of the game, up until then we were on top, players have since admitted Lonie going down took a few weeks to regroup. Freo in Freo, should have won that one...just to mention a couple of wins we could have won with one or two of our best 22 available 2019.

[Scollop]

Dumb decisions about to be made if we lose some of our key matchwinners

We won games in 2019 with Blakenator and Juicey having an influence in our wins...Stuvvy also playing a crucial part in a couple of wins from his handful of games

If there is a long term plan, perhaps we might be better in 2021 or 2022, but I reckon it'll take a year to consolidate if we make half a dozen changes

[Scollop]

You’ve still got to win 9 games, regardless.

Better run with injuries we would have won 11

It’s showed we were better than some clubs, and better than predicted, some considered us wooden spoon material.

At least two of those wins we wouldn’t have got without Bruce.

So we lost another 11 with him then.

Seb Ross wins a best and fairest, but regardless whether he is outstanding or poor, he is not a key matchwinner or influencer.

Seb should be commended for his work ethic and because he is consistent, but I reckon he is easily replaced as opposed to a KPP like Juice

[Secret Kiel]

You’ve still got to win 9 games, regardless.

Better run with injuries we would have won 11

It’s showed we were better than some clubs, and better than predicted, some considered us wooden spoon material.

At least two of those wins we wouldn’t have got without Bruce.

So we lost another 11 with him then.

Seb Ross wins a best and fairest, but regardless whether he is outstanding or poor, he is not a key matchwinner or influencer.

Seb should be commended for his work ethic and because he is consistent, but I reckon he is easily replaced as opposed to a KPP like Juice

Sebby could very well be captain this year, your comments about him are misguided.

[B.M]

Didn’t Seb get a dozen Brownlow votes

That’s half a dozen times he was in the best few on the ground

[Scollop]

Yes

He does receive a a lot of footy

I suppose that for some people it's how they rate a players influence

Hmmmm...Did Wayne Carey ever win a Brownlow?

[B.M]

No, but he won 4 best and fairests and received a lot of Brownlow votes

[B.M]

Btw

Seb wins a lot of his own ball

[Secret Kiel]

We will be better, to argue otherwise is going to be a hard sell.

[barneyboyz]

With Jack Steven and Dan Hannebery in the team we would have won at least another 1 to 2 more games, (the Freo game in Freo for example we pulled up short in the midfield).
you could probably mount a strong argument too that Lonie's loss hurt us as much as any other, throw him in and we probably beat Adelaide before he went down, swung the momentum of the game, up until then we were on top, players have since admitted Lonie going down took a few weeks to regroup. Freo in Freo, should have won that one...just to mention a couple of wins we could have won with one or two of our best 22 available 2019.

You only have to go back to the Hawthorn game. That was an amazing effort, a couple of weeks later the wheels were off. This was mostly due to injuries, inconsistent young players and coming up against GWS and Adelaide.

All things being even next year, and look out