My solution for women umpiring at AFL Level

[Special]

Instead of the current tokenism approach that has beyond failed with our friend number 34, the AFL need a totally different approach to attracting women umpires at the top level.

My solution is to get top ex-AFLW players to start umpiring.

These women are already highly respected in footy circles and have a real feel for the game being ex players.

This strategy is still a few years away from happening

[skeptic]

Just to be clear... for the men, should only ex-AFL players umpire or is this strictly for women

[Special]

Just to be clear... for the men, should only ex-AFL players umpire or is this strictly for women

Maybe - men’s umpiring is slightly better. Or are you having a go at me?? Are you another of these clowns like on the ABC that advertised Men’s Ashes??

Back on topic - What do you think of my proposal?

[barneyboyz]

I sometimes wonder, especially at grass roots and junior level, what draws a young person to it? I coached at junior level and still have the scars But seriously, most of the young kids umpiring wouldn't have had much, if any experience playing.

Women umpiring at any level will improve greatly with playing experience and time. Maybe we should be looking harder at getting more ex-footballers as umpires? Though our experience with Mr Fisher hasn't always been friendly

[skeptic]

Just to be clear... for the men, should only ex-AFL players umpire or is this strictly for women

Maybe - men’s umpiring is slightly better. Or are you having a go at me?? Are you another of these clowns like on the ABC that advertised Men’s Ashes??

Back on topic - What do you think of my proposal?

Merely a question - struggling to see why this proposal is suitable for women but maybe not men. End of the day, it's a talent thing. You're either good enough or you're not. This umpire should be canned if they are terrible and the next person promoted if they're good enough

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegr ... ayers/amp/

The irony. If only the door swung both ways.

[Special]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegr ... ayers/amp/

The irony. If only the door swung both ways.

Interesting. Did he ever play the game himself?

I played a few seasons of mixed netball- not sure if they have men’s only teams though?

[saynta]

Just to be clear... for the men, should only ex-AFL players umpire or is this strictly for women

Maybe - men’s umpiring is slightly better. Or are you having a go at me?? Are you another of these clowns like on the ABC that advertised Men’s Ashes??

[barneyboyz]

Just to be clear... for the men, should only ex-AFL players umpire or is this strictly for women

Maybe - men’s umpiring is slightly better. Or are you having a go at me?? Are you another of these clowns like on the ABC that advertised Men’s Ashes??

Back on topic - What do you think of my proposal?

Merely a question - struggling to see why this proposal is suitable for women but maybe not men. End of the day, it's a talent thing. You're either good enough or you're not. This umpire should be canned if they are terrible and the next person promoted if they're good enough

I've seen some bloody good umpires out in the burbs that wouldn't get a game at AFL due to fitness alone, that's the pity really

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegr ... ayers/amp/

The irony. If only the door swung both ways.

Interesting. Did he ever play the game himself?

I played a few seasons of mixed netball- not sure if they have men’s only teams though?

Don't think so but this bloke obviously got treated a lot worse by female professional players and coaches than Elani ever has in the AFL.

[Special]

Just to be clear... for the men, should only ex-AFL players umpire or is this strictly for women

Maybe - men’s umpiring is slightly better. Or are you having a go at me?? Are you another of these clowns like on the ABC that advertised Men’s Ashes??

Calling The Ashes “Men’s Ashes” was clearly an idea by some barely-adult raw-food vegan hipster that just landed their first job at the ABC. Won’t be a good career move.

[thejiggingsaint]

In my humble opinion, "gender" has sweet FA to do with whether an umpire is up to the job. Chelsea Roffey has proved to be an excellent goal umpire. Sadly, this female umpire (Eleni Glouftsis) had a "stinker" last time she officiated at one of our games, and yesterday, was hardly better. I think, in the interests of both her, and the game, she needs to go to the VFL or similar in order to get a wee bit more experience. In all honesty, the female umpire was not alone in being truly awful yesterday. I thought the THREE of them were KRUD!!!

[freely]

Jeez louise - you boys just can't help yourselves, can you?

[The_Dud]

The solution to ‘fixing’ women umpires has nothing to do with the women, more with the blokes watching

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

Dud, you are easily the biggest umpire apologist I have ever come across in my entire life. That is saying something.

[The_Dud]

Dud, you are easily the biggest umpire apologist I have ever come across in my entire life. That is saying something.

Does saying that umpires aren’t part of some grand conspiracy against the St Kilda FC make me an apologist?

[kosifantutti]

Instead of the current tokenism approach that has beyond failed with our friend number 34, the AFL need a totally different approach to attracting women umpires at the top level.

My solution is to get top ex-AFLW players to start umpiring.

These women are already highly respected in footy circles and have a real feel for the game being ex players.

This strategy is still a few years away from happening

And we can all stop posting on here unless we've played the game at the highest level.

[Special]

Instead of the current tokenism approach that has beyond failed with our friend number 34, the AFL need a totally different approach to attracting women umpires at the top level.

My solution is to get top ex-AFLW players to start umpiring.

These women are already highly respected in footy circles and have a real feel for the game being ex players.

This strategy is still a few years away from happening

And we can all stop posting on here unless we've played the game at the highest level.

Are you and Dudley twins??!

[Saintmatt]

Just to be clear... for the men, should only ex-AFL players umpire or is this strictly for women

Maybe - men’s umpiring is slightly better. Or are you having a go at me?? Are you another of these clowns like on the ABC that advertised Men’s Ashes??

Calling The Ashes “Men’s Ashes” was clearly an idea by some barely-adult raw-food vegan hipster that just landed their first job at the ABC. Won’t be a good career move.

I think that should've read "barely-adult raw-food vegan hipster WHO WEARS HESSIAN UNDER TROUSERS". On the contrary - the aforementioned hipster will now likely get a significant promotion as a result of their brain fart into the programming department's suggestion box.

[saynta]

In my humble opinion, "gender" has sweet FA to do with whether an umpire is up to the job. Chelsea Roffey has proved to be an excellent goal umpire. Sadly, this female umpire (Eleni Glouftsis) had a "stinker" last time she officiated at one of our games, and yesterday, was hardly better. I think, in the interests of both her, and the game, she needs to go to the VFL or similar in order to get a wee bit more experience. In all honesty, the female umpire was not alone in being truly awful yesterday. I thought the THREE of them were KRUD!!!

Good sensible post from a respected poster IMHO

[kosifantutti]

Instead of the current tokenism approach that has beyond failed with our friend number 34, the AFL need a totally different approach to attracting women umpires at the top level.

My solution is to get top ex-AFLW players to start umpiring.

These women are already highly respected in footy circles and have a real feel for the game being ex players.

This strategy is still a few years away from happening

And we can all stop posting on here unless we've played the game at the highest level.

Are you and Dudley twins??!

Usually we disagree which really annoys Mum.

But I just call them as I see them.

I’m still waiting for examples of decisions she got wrong.

[The_Dud]

Instead of the current tokenism approach that has beyond failed with our friend number 34, the AFL need a totally different approach to attracting women umpires at the top level.

My solution is to get top ex-AFLW players to start umpiring.

These women are already highly respected in footy circles and have a real feel for the game being ex players.

This strategy is still a few years away from happening

And we can all stop posting on here unless we've played the game at the highest level.

Are you and Dudley twins??!

Usually we disagree which really annoys Mum.

But I just call them as I see them.

I’m still waiting for examples of decisions she got wrong.

Yep, ‘facts’ and ‘evidence’ were big in our household

[skeptic]

This umpiring discussion is fascinating

Yes the umps hate us and have a conspiracy against us... but women umpires... that's satan talk

I still can't understand if they're incompetent or corrupt... can't be both

[The_Dud]

This umpiring discussion is fascinating

Yes the umps hate us and have a conspiracy against us... but women umpires... that's satan talk

I still can't understand if they're incompetent or corrupt... can't be both

We won the game and the free kit count yesterday, so maybe they’re incompetent at being corrupt?

[older saint]

Here is an idea , let's get people regardless of gender, colour , race etc who can do the bloody job well.
She has been dropped 4 times this year and after yesterday is heading for number 5.
reality is she is a bad umpire and the best representation of equality is sending her back the vfl /sanfl for the rest of the year.