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If you're wondering why we're in China ...
Gillon McLachlan: “Port Adelaide and St Kilda are both making nearly a million dollars. It’s not costing anything. It breaks even for the AFL and the clubs are making money.
Two words 'million' and 'dollars'
Two words 'million' and 'dollars'
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Re: If you're wondering why we're in China ...
I thought they were there for dim sum
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Re: If you're wondering why we're in China ...
If you put it like that it’s almost worth being spanked in front of 1.4 billion people
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Re: If you're wondering why we're in China ...
Mr and Mrs Fa Kin Su Pa agree!
Posters that have admitted they were wrong about Hanna's gastro and the club didn't create a cover story.
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Re: If you're wondering why we're in China ...
certainly a starting point for a mid season international holiday for the players
I would think only a fool would think we are doing china for anything but the money once again saving our financial backsides
A few supporters are probably deluded enough to think it will be good for the club in other means
Simple fact is stkilda has not done the brand any good by playing in
Tasmania
New Zealand
and now China
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Re: If you're wondering why we're in China ...
We make zero money at Docklands, so why the hell would you knock back a million bucks in Shanghai. The whole AFL competition is skewed toward the clubs with the biggest following. TV broadcasters want those clubs shown at prime times so they can maximise their advertising revenue. Those clubs get richer and stronger as a result. It then becomes a feedback loop, with the likes of St Kilda, the Bulldogs, PortAdelaide, and North Melbourne being permanently kept out of thar loop. So how to you grow your brand and raise more revenue? You go to Shanghai. It's not ideal, but it's a reality brought about by a long term strategy by the AFL to maximise profits through broadcast rights. We are the collateral damage
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Re: If you're wondering why we're in China ...
I think the hope is that we might also get a few more sponsors that we wouldn’t ordinarily get access to.
It might take a while to see these other benefits flow through but hopefully it will happen.
It might take a while to see these other benefits flow through but hopefully it will happen.
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Re: If you're wondering why we're in China ...
I thought we were an anytime, anywhere side?sunsaint wrote: ↑Fri 07 Jun 2019 3:50pmcertainly a starting point for a mid season international holiday for the players
I would think only a fool would think we are doing china for anything but the money once again saving our financial backsides
A few supporters are probably deluded enough to think it will be good for the club in other means
Simple fact is stkilda has not done the brand any good by playing in
Tasmania
New Zealand
and now China
In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came in, they're eating the cats. They’re eating – they are eating the pets of the people that live there.
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Re: If you're wondering why we're in China ...
Correct. We were supposed to have a standalone sponsor for the Shanghai game but it apparently fell through at the last minute.
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Re: If you're wondering why we're in China ...
I live in Perth, and we don't get much on free to air TV, other than the obvious games against the 2 WA teams.
We hardly ever get on otherwise. Ch7 would rather show WAFL than one of our matches.
But they're happy to show Geel vs Hawks, as well as most Tigers games.
Us, Norf, Doggies, n Bluescum get little love from the broadcaster.
I get it on AFL Live App for free, unmetered, because I'm a Telstra customer
We hardly ever get on otherwise. Ch7 would rather show WAFL than one of our matches.
But they're happy to show Geel vs Hawks, as well as most Tigers games.
Us, Norf, Doggies, n Bluescum get little love from the broadcaster.
I get it on AFL Live App for free, unmetered, because I'm a Telstra customer
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Re: If you're wondering why we're in China ...
$1,000,000 we don't have the ask for from the AFL... why did we have to give up a home game again?
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Re: If you're wondering why we're in China ...
Should get foxtel, then you get all 9 matches each week plus the cricket, 360 and on the couch. Worth every penny and I wouldn't go without it.WellardSaint wrote: ↑Fri 07 Jun 2019 6:38pm I live in Perth, and we don't get much on free to air TV, other than the obvious games against the 2 WA teams.
We hardly ever get on otherwise. Ch7 would rather show WAFL than one of our matches.
But they're happy to show Geel vs Hawks, as well as most Tigers games.
Us, Norf, Doggies, n Bluescum get little love from the broadcaster.
I get it on AFL Live App for free, unmetered, because I'm a Telstra customer
You also get to watch it on a big screen. and not some crappy little hand held device.
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Re: If you're wondering why we're in China ...
I can't afford Foxtel until late July- that's my final car payment. I might sign up then.saynta wrote: ↑Fri 07 Jun 2019 7:22pmShould get foxtel, then you get all 9 matches each week plus the cricket, 360 and on the couch. Worth every penny and I wouldn't go without it.WellardSaint wrote: ↑Fri 07 Jun 2019 6:38pm I live in Perth, and we don't get much on free to air TV, other than the obvious games against the 2 WA teams.
We hardly ever get on otherwise. Ch7 would rather show WAFL than one of our matches.
But they're happy to show Geel vs Hawks, as well as most Tigers games.
Us, Norf, Doggies, n Bluescum get little love from the broadcaster.
I get it on AFL Live App for free, unmetered, because I'm a Telstra customer
You also get to watch it on a big screen. and not some crappy little hand held device.
My rental already has the Foxtel points (x2)
A real Sainter will pledge allegiance to the ❤ and despise the Pies, the Blues, and the Injectors.
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Re: If you're wondering why we're in China ...
Go for it mate, go for it. You won't be sorry.WellardSaint wrote: ↑Fri 07 Jun 2019 7:43pmI can't afford Foxtel until late July- that's my final car payment. I might sign up then.saynta wrote: ↑Fri 07 Jun 2019 7:22pmShould get foxtel, then you get all 9 matches each week plus the cricket, 360 and on the couch. Worth every penny and I wouldn't go without it.WellardSaint wrote: ↑Fri 07 Jun 2019 6:38pm I live in Perth, and we don't get much on free to air TV, other than the obvious games against the 2 WA teams.
We hardly ever get on otherwise. Ch7 would rather show WAFL than one of our matches.
But they're happy to show Geel vs Hawks, as well as most Tigers games.
Us, Norf, Doggies, n Bluescum get little love from the broadcaster.
I get it on AFL Live App for free, unmetered, because I'm a Telstra customer
You also get to watch it on a big screen. and not some crappy little hand held device.
My rental already has the Foxtel points (x2)
Re: If you're wondering why we're in China ...
Am in Shanghai at the moment...unfortunately could not make it to the game. But Shanghai is a great city to visit...if nothing else,, I would highly recommend a holiday here...during the northern summer. Personally, I would love it if we have a game here once a year. But given our performance last weekend...not sure we will be invitex again. We seem to have a habit of saving our worst performances for marquee games of late
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Did I read somewhere that we're committed to China until 2021, a 3 year deal?KingSaint wrote: ↑Fri 07 Jun 2019 8:00pm Am in Shanghai at the moment...unfortunately could not make it to the game. But Shanghai is a great city to visit...if nothing else,, I would highly recommend a holiday here...during the northern summer. Personally, I would love it if we have a game here once a year. But given our performance last weekend...not sure we will be invitex again. We seem to have a habit of saving our worst performances for marquee games of late
Maybe Port could send over a B-Side, nobody would know and the game would actually be much closer
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Re: If you're wondering why we're in China ...
Or Kayo Sports if the basic FOXTEL package is too much. Smart TV or a Google Chromecast and you can watch on a TV.WellardSaint wrote: ↑Fri 07 Jun 2019 7:43pmI can't afford Foxtel until late July- that's my final car payment. I might sign up then.saynta wrote: ↑Fri 07 Jun 2019 7:22pmShould get foxtel, then you get all 9 matches each week plus the cricket, 360 and on the couch. Worth every penny and I wouldn't go without it.WellardSaint wrote: ↑Fri 07 Jun 2019 6:38pm I live in Perth, and we don't get much on free to air TV, other than the obvious games against the 2 WA teams.
We hardly ever get on otherwise. Ch7 would rather show WAFL than one of our matches.
But they're happy to show Geel vs Hawks, as well as most Tigers games.
Us, Norf, Doggies, n Bluescum get little love from the broadcaster.
I get it on AFL Live App for free, unmetered, because I'm a Telstra customer
You also get to watch it on a big screen. and not some crappy little hand held device.
My rental already has the Foxtel points (x2)
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Yep, 3 yearsWellardSaint wrote: ↑Fri 07 Jun 2019 8:31pmDid I read somewhere that we're committed to China until 2021, a 3 year deal?KingSaint wrote: ↑Fri 07 Jun 2019 8:00pm Am in Shanghai at the moment...unfortunately could not make it to the game. But Shanghai is a great city to visit...if nothing else,, I would highly recommend a holiday here...during the northern summer. Personally, I would love it if we have a game here once a year. But given our performance last weekend...not sure we will be invitex again. We seem to have a habit of saving our worst performances for marquee games of late
Maybe Port could send over a B-Side, nobody would know and the game would actually be much closer
As ex-president Peter Summers said:
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”
St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”
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Re: If you're wondering why we're in China ...
I'd rather us being involved in something innovative than nothing at all. I for one embrace this.
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Don't get two set top boxes unless you want to watch two separate programs at the same time in different rooms.WellardSaint wrote: ↑Fri 07 Jun 2019 7:43pmI can't afford Foxtel until late July- that's my final car payment. I might sign up then.saynta wrote: ↑Fri 07 Jun 2019 7:22pmShould get foxtel, then you get all 9 matches each week plus the cricket, 360 and on the couch. Worth every penny and I wouldn't go without it.WellardSaint wrote: ↑Fri 07 Jun 2019 6:38pm I live in Perth, and we don't get much on free to air TV, other than the obvious games against the 2 WA teams.
We hardly ever get on otherwise. Ch7 would rather show WAFL than one of our matches.
But they're happy to show Geel vs Hawks, as well as most Tigers games.
Us, Norf, Doggies, n Bluescum get little love from the broadcaster.
I get it on AFL Live App for free, unmetered, because I'm a Telstra customer
You also get to watch it on a big screen. and not some crappy little hand held device.
My rental already has the Foxtel points (x2)
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Re: If you're wondering why we're in China ...
You need to remember who is saying this.
Gill is required to put a positive spin on this. At no point did he say “EACH”!!!!
Us and Port probably do make $1M, together, and cause it’s Kochie’s baby, I reckon the split is probably 80/20.
Here’s an idea, if Port are so keen to play up there - we sell our home game vs Port to Adelaide Oval, and take the whole gate. Then play Port away in China. There’s no doubt we make more cash that way.
Gill is required to put a positive spin on this. At no point did he say “EACH”!!!!
Us and Port probably do make $1M, together, and cause it’s Kochie’s baby, I reckon the split is probably 80/20.
Here’s an idea, if Port are so keen to play up there - we sell our home game vs Port to Adelaide Oval, and take the whole gate. Then play Port away in China. There’s no doubt we make more cash that way.
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"Gill is required to put a positive spin on this. At no point did he say “EACH”!!!!"
He said 'both' clubs making nearly a mil. My understanding of 'both' here = 'each'.
He said 'both' clubs making nearly a mil. My understanding of 'both' here = 'each'.
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I, and many like me don't because we never turn up in any any of these stupid matches.The Fireman wrote: ↑Fri 07 Jun 2019 11:50pm I'd rather us being involved in something innovative than nothing at all. I for one embrace this.
I cite the following as evidence:
Not preparing properly for the China match
Not being properly prepared for North in the Good Friday match
Never winning any of the following:
Games in Wellington
Pride Matches
Failing in Tassie despite having arguably the strongest team in our history, including one of the best League footy has ever seen in Roo.
With all of these public failures to perform on the big stage we lose, not gain, potential supporters and sponsors.
Recently that breach of duty has fallen to AR - but a lot of these past failures are also historical.
He should've admitted that the club and management of the club completely stuffed up the China match with their ill-preparation.
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Re: If you're wondering why we're in China ...
But we can't just not participate in any initiatives on the assumption that we'll stuff up and lose the game. Got to have a little bit of positivity or we'll lose every game - not just the high profile ones.