Do we Do Goey?????

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Do we Do Goey?????

Post: # 1720818Post stonecold »

According to AFL Website, we are circling around the troubled Pie!!!!!

Is he worth the risk?????

Thoughts?????


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Post: # 1720820Post asiu »

is he a footballer ?
a natural footballer ?
or an athelete playing aussie rules ?


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Post: # 1720821Post bigred »

Could be worse....

I mean, imagine if he had references from Essendon.


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Post: # 1720823Post stonecold »

asiu wrote:is he a footballer ?
a natural footballer ?
or an athelete playing aussie rules ?
I'd say footballer, however they would want a first rnd pick, I think!!!!/
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Post: # 1720826Post parkeysainter »

Good player, but can't seem to keep out of trouble. Maybe he needs a bayside change of scenery?! I would take him though as he has skill and can run.

But I really think we should go for Meg Hutchins. She is 36 and got delisted by the Collingwood AFLW side. :)


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ST KILDA has flagged its interest in out-of-contract Collingwood midfielder Jordan De Goey, with the Magpie shaping as an in-demand player this year despite his off-field indiscretions.

Rival clubs believe De Goey could command around $500-600,000 per year for his next deal if the former No.5 draft pick has a consistent season for the Pies.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-04-19/p ... ntract-mid#/


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Post: # 1720832Post Moods »

Normally I'd say steer clear. This guy can seriously play. In right age bracket too. If pies release him he's either a) wanting massive overs like 600-700k or b) even more trouble than what has been reported in the media.

We are that devoid of really good footballers, I still say chase him and try and turn his troubled life around. Pay him overs. Do anything!


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Post: # 1720833Post DJ Higgins »

Depends what they want for him but I would probably say no. Remember the last pie we got with hamstring issues (albeit more serious ones). We would look foolish getting another and one that has a poor attitude and bad reputation.


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Post: # 1720839Post Con Gorozidis »

Absolutely good footballer.
Rate him highly.
Doesn't fall over. Strong. Beautiful kick. Tough.
Quite similar to Billings in general.

Not really top of our needs list.


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Post: # 1720843Post degruch »

Con Gorozidis wrote:Absolutely good footballer.
Rate him highly.
Doesn't fall over. Strong. Beautiful kick. Tough.
Quite similar to Billings in general.

Not really top of our needs list.
Unless we can turn Billings into a nice outside midfielder? Either way, worth a crack...Pies need a tall, what do we have to throw in? Longer, Hickey, Paddy, Gehrig?


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Post: # 1720845Post saintsRrising »

Yes we can swap our second pick for him.....oh wait!


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Post: # 1720855Post St. Paul »

saintsRrising wrote:Yes we can swap our second pick for him.....oh wait!
A definite yes from me. The boy can play alright and fits our needs perfectly. Unfortunately, as you pointed out SR, have neither a second nor third rounder to trade. In any event, Colonwood would want our 1st pick, even though he's damaged goods. I don't think they'd want anything else we had except for Blacres, Billings or the Gresh. All off limits I would've thought.

Added to that, the ghost of Andrew Lovett still haunts the corridors of Moorabbin. Very tempting and at the right price would be good, but I can't see how it will happen. What's the bet farkin' Hawthorn or the cats end up getting him and he becomes an A Grader.


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St. Paul wrote:
saintsRrising wrote:Yes we can swap our second pick for him.....oh wait!
A definite yes from me. The boy can play alright and fits our needs perfectly. Unfortunately, as you pointed out SR, have neither a second nor third rounder to trade. In any event, Colonwood would want our 1st pick, even though he's damaged goods. I don't think they'd want anything else we had except for Blacres, Billings or the Gresh. All off limits I would've thought.

Added to that, the ghost of Andrew Lovett still haunts the corridors of Moorabbin. Very tempting and at the right price would be good, but I can't see how it will happen. What's the bet farkin' Hawthorn or the cats end up getting him and he becomes an A Grader.
This guy craps all over Lovett - the most overated footballer I've ever seen the Saints chase. Lovett was older, had never finished higher than 10th in an average club's B&F. He dominated a couple of Anzac Day games in front of big crowds. Unless the Saints were going to turn him into more than what he was that trade stunk from the outset.

DeGoey has come off a 4 week suspension and looked superb. I personally think he's in the best 3 players at the Pies. If they wanted our 1st rounder I would hand it over before they had a chance to think about it.


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Post: # 1720867Post Linton Lodger »

Definitely worth a look, but will cost a first rounder.


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Post: # 1720900Post congorozides »

My preference is keep our first draft pick and use it in the draft and get Gaff as a FA.

We will have to pay overs for Gaff but seriously who cares.

We are paying overs for most of our list already anyways.


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Post: # 1720901Post saynta »

congorozides wrote:My preference is keep our first draft pick and use it in the draft and get Gaff as a FA.

We will have to pay overs for Gaff but seriously who cares.

We are paying overs for most of our list already anyways.

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Post: # 1720904Post SydneySainter »

congorozides wrote:My preference is keep our first draft pick and use it in the draft and get Gaff as a FA.

We will have to pay overs for Gaff but seriously who cares.

We are paying overs for most of our list already anyways.
Whatever interest Gaff may have had in us must surely be evaporating rapidly.

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Post: # 1720907Post congorozides »

saynta wrote:
congorozides wrote:My preference is keep our first draft pick and use it in the draft and get Gaff as a FA.

We will have to pay overs for Gaff but seriously who cares.

We are paying overs for most of our list already anyways.

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Post: # 1720913Post Zed »

In what is being touted as one of the strongest drafts on record we are going to have a top 4 pick. I would hate to trade that away when in theory we should be adding to the building blocks of Clark & Coffield

I can’t see us magically rocketing up the ladder in 2019 so next years first draft pick should also be off limits - butte club may entertain a Carlisle type deal eg Saints 2019 first rounder in return for De Goey and 2019 2nd rounder from Collingwoods


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Post: # 1720916Post parkeysainter »

He is not worth a 1st round pick. No way. 2nd round yes.


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Post: # 1720924Post St. Paul »

parkeysainter wrote:He is not worth a 1st round pick. No way. 2nd round yes.
We haven't got one of those. I really can't see how we could manage given our current drafting position. We won't give up a first rounder for him, especially if it stays in the top 5 or so. We all know that Colonwood is only second to the dopers in overrating their players and being difficult to deal with. I'd love to get him, but something will have to change drastically for that to happen.


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stonecold wrote:
asiu wrote:is he a footballer ?
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I'd say footballer, however they would want a first rnd pick, I think!!!!/
First round pick trade them Paddy.


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Post: # 1720929Post Moods »

Those who are living in some draft fantasy where all early picks (particularly those picked by Saints recruiters) turns to football gold, make me shake my head in dispair. Here we have a young man who would walk into our team and straight away be in our top 2 players. He could play for the next 8-10 years. No, we should roll the dice at the draft like Sydney and Hawthorn and the Cats try to avoid. Because it's so much more romantic to draft a fresh faced 18 yr old and see him become a champion before our eyes. Why grab a ready made young player??

Who says Clarke and Coffield are going to become stars? They might but who knows? Blind freddy can see Degoey's talent. We all thought that Billings was going to be a star. He still might but at the same age, I will take the bigger, stronger, more consistently skilled Degoey every day of the week.

Have we learnt nothing from the McCartin debacle. The draft is no guarantee. Proven players are. Trade your early picks for the Mitchells and O'Mearas and get up the ladder


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Post: # 1720930Post samuraisaint »

stonecold wrote:According to AFL Website, we are circling around the troubled Pie!!!!!

Is he worth the risk?????

Thoughts?????

Gaff mate. And lure Sloane over on a superannuation deal.


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Moods wrote:Those who are living in some draft fantasy where all early picks (particularly those picked by Saints recruiters) turns to football gold, make me shake my head in dispair. Here we have a young man who would walk into our team and straight away be in our top 2 players. He could play for the next 8-10 years. No, we should roll the dice at the draft like Sydney and Hawthorn and the Cats try to avoid. Because it's so much more romantic to draft a fresh faced 18 yr old and see him become a champion before our eyes. Why grab a ready made young player??

Who says Clarke and Coffield are going to become stars? They might but who knows? Blind freddy can see Degoey's talent. We all thought that Billings was going to be a star. He still might but at the same age, I will take the bigger, stronger, more consistently skilled Degoey every day of the week.

Have we learnt nothing from the McCartin debacle. The draft is no guarantee. Proven players are. Trade your early picks for the Mitchells and O'Mearas and get up the ladder
There's truth in what you say Moods. We got Baldock in the 60s and the Hawkers got Huddo, both of whom were in their 20s at the time. I reckon we go for Gaff and get Rory Sloane in a superannuation deal. Those guys would make Paddy better.

And Clarke and Coffield are going to become stars.


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