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VFL news - another team in trouble? Port melb

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Frankston have had their Licence to field a team terminated by the AFL Vic

Players informed by twitter- not sure if it means they found out on line or if they were actually t9old.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/sout ... 16ce4324d1
THE final siren appears to have sounded on the debt-hit Frankston Football Club.

The administrator handling the VFL club’s affairs today confirmed AFL Victoria had terminated the Dolphins’ licence to play in the state league.

A statement from Worrells Solvency and Forensic Accountants said Paul Burness and Con Kokkinos were called in to a meeting with AFL Victoria this morning.

“At the meeting they were advised that the club’s licence to compete in the VFL would be terminated imminently. As a result, FFC will not be able to compete in the VFL competition into the future,’’ the statement said.

It said the decision “concludes any prospect of a club restructure and the voluntary administrators will now turn their efforts to an orderly closure through an inevitable liquidation of the club’’.

“It’s a very disappointing outcome for a club with a history dating back to 1887. The proposal to creditors, which we recommended, would have seen the club continue into the future and would have provided the best possible outcome for staff, creditors, members, and supporters,’’ Burness said.

“As a business operating in Frankston, I am acutely aware that the club’s closure will have far reaching consequences for the local community.

“I would like to thank the players, coaching staff, employees, the board, sponsors, and supporters for their help and dedication throughout this difficult period.”

The statement said it was believed that AFL Victoria had concerns about “non-financial matters such as the historical on-field performance’’.

The club went into voluntary administration four weeks ago with debts of more than $1 million.


“While we are disappointed with the decision, we were not in a position to give any assurances on matters such as the future performances of players,’’ Burness said.

“As voluntary administrators our role was limited to dealing with the financial issues facing the club.”

Dolphins coach Patrick Hill said he was shocked by the news.

He said he believed there was a will and intention for the club to work through its financial difficulties, and the players and coaching staff had committed to staying at Frankston.

“I’m stunned at the moment, having found out three minutes ago,’’ an emotional Hill said at 5.20pm.

“It’s caught me off guard. It’s caught us all off guard. We all wanted to keep going. We’re a proud club. There were people putting in some big hours trying to get something going.’’

Frankston is staging its best and fairest on Thursday night.

“I’m sure it will be a sombre occasion,’’ Hill said. “As a group of players and coaches we’ll get to enjoy each other’s company one more time before everyone goes off on their separate footy journeys. That’s football, I suppose. You don’t stay together forever. You all have your own journey. It’s just probably a little earlier than I expected. I expect it will be an emotional night on Thursday.’’

Hill added: “I feel for the players. A lot of them will be right. For some of them, it means they won’t get to play VFL footy any more. These are young men striving to be the best they can be. They’ve been incredibly loyal to me. They’ve turned down offers to play elsewhere, big money offers. They want to be great citizens and they want to be good sons and good footballers and all of a sudden it’s going to be ripped away from these young men. That makes me a little emotional.’’

Frankston Mayor James Dooley said the club’s demise was a “sad day for football’’.

“The Dolphins have given a legitimate avenue for rookie players who have been overlooked in the draft for acceptance into the AFL,’’ he said.

Cr Dooley said it was “too early” to say who would take over Frankston Park — home of the Dolphins.

AFL Victoria’s decision to effectively boot the Dolphins out of the competition follows a multi-million dollar redevelopment of the Kars St social club.

Leader reported in April last year that cost of the $3.4 million Frankston Dolphins Football Club redevelopment project has blown out by up to $300,000.

AFL Victoria contributed $250,000 to the project along with money from other levels of government.

Former president and Dolphins legend Alan Wickes said he and other key supporters were “absolutely gobsmacked’’ by AFL Victoria’s decision.

Wickes said he was furious members had not been given an opportunity to put their case to AFL Victoria.

He is now planning to lead a deputation of members to AFL to put the case for survival.

But he acknowledged it was a “long shot’’.

“We are a few goals down kicking into the breeze at three quarter time, but anything is possible,” he said.

Wickes said it was likely members would hold a protest if AFL Victoria did not give them a hearing.

ABC sports commentator and ex-Frankston player Paul Kennedy tonight accused the AFL of turning its back on “one of its richest and proudest footballing regions’’.

“It makes the announcement while its executive walks the red carpet in fancy suits,’’ Kennedy said.

“No Frankston in the VFL means boys and young men aspiring to be their best have no place to better themselves beyond local ranks. If the AFL was worried about Frankston then why didn’t it provide more help.

“Think about what - and who - the peninsula and Frankston have given to the great game of Aussie rules in the past 125 years. Look at the names. Then tell me this not a lazy, shallow, heartless decision. And the responsibility for this axing lies not only with the branch-level AFL Victoria. It is with the AFL’s boss and his advisors.’

The administrator said on Saturday that the future of the club would be decided at a meeting on October 3.

Worrells Solvency and Forensic Accountants said it had finalised its report of the Dollies’ finances and through the Frankston board would present an offer to creditors.

If they accepted the club would survive and employees, coaching staff and players would receive the money they were owed.

Under the proposal, payments to the creditors would have been made over four years.

Burness said Frankston Council had indicated it was willing to give the club rent relief should it continue.

In light of AFL Victoria’s decision the administrators said they would now tell creditors and stakeholders that a liquidation of the club was inevitable.

The liquidation is expected to be confirmed at the meeting on Monday, October 3.
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Re: VFL news - Frankston gone?

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Sad to see. Brian Mace, one of their early coaches and father of Robert who played for us,was a good mate of mine.


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A sad day when 129 years of history goes down the toilet.


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So many true comments made by Wickes, Kennedy and others

So much money by afl has been wasted on poor projects but they have forgotten a piece of heartland.

really disappointing and so frustrating for real grass roots football


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Yep let's tip millions into women's football and ignore a club like Frankston.


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Sad news especially when so much money is in the game but not enough to support local football. Hope they can re-emerge in some other form if necessary and play in the Southern League or some other appropriate local based league.

They have a lot going for them with local council support and good facilities. Now the AFL have to dig into their pockets and get them started in some other form.


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I wonder what this means for Sandy...
Suddenly the prospect of working closely with the Saints becomes less about preference and more about survival


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The AFL couldn't care less about Frangga.

Just let them rot and die. I wonder if Blue Balls Gilligan even knows about it? Or is he still trying to find some relief after the shocking prelim loss that GWS suffered.


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skeptic wrote:I wonder what this means for Sandy...
Suddenly the prospect of working closely with the Saints becomes less about preference and more about survival

This. Sandringham is dead without the Saints.


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Frankston should have accepted a merger offer to become the Frankston Saints many years ago. Brian Mace was against it and convinced the board they can go it alone ? He was wrong.


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BigMart wrote:Frankston should have accepted a merger offer to become the Frankston Saints many years ago. Brian Mace was against it and convinced the board they can go it alone ? He was wrong.
I wondered about that.
Saints and Frankston merge, we play at Frankston oval... Suddenly that move looks a lot different


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jittery followers of football and the situation
The following is a statement from AFL Victoria regarding Frankston's VFL license:
AFL Victoria has not notified the Frankston Football Club of any decision regarding their license.
The media reports are as a result of a meeting between AFL Victoria and the administrators Monday and the administrator subsequently releasing a statement to the media and not the club itself.
AFL Victoria has not provided any such advice to the club regarding their license and will meet with them on Thursday.
AFL Victoria will not provide any comment until further discussions with Frankston.
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as usual once something is ' gone' the support comes out of the woodwork.
they will have 12 months to work out a solution.
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There is a pulse at Frankston all but tabcorp accommodating- looking to be back in the game for 2018

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North Ballarat also looking to a differant future
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North Ballarat will hold a board meeting on Monday to determine whether it will continue to stay in the @VFL.
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If anyone would like to help save the Dolphins, an event will be held at Frankston Park tomorrow so please get down there.

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North Ballarat staying for 2017
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-12-06/n ... 017-season
"It is pleasing to have North Ballarat Football Club reaffirm its commitment to the Peter Jackson VFL competition in 2017," Reaper said.

"AFL Victoria will continue to work with the club, like we do all clubs, to help support their future in the competition."

North Ballarat's decision means the VFL will be a 14-team competition in 2017, with AFL Victoria hoping to release the fixture next week.


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Jackson: We expect that in 2017 the @CaseyScorpions are likely to become the Casey Demons and will wear the Melbourne colours.


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The Scorpions believe the rebranding and their ability to tap into Melbourne’s resources would allow them to generate more sponsorship and marking opportunities, exposure and general support.

It would also increase Melbourne’s connection to the southeast, which started in 2009 with a 30-year deal with the City of Casey which, according to the council, “focuses on five key pillars: education, multicultural, women, business and grassroots football’’.

Leader understands AFL Victoria has endorsed the clubs’ proposal.


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"This shows how strong the partnership already is and we think this move to align our brand with the Casey region will significantly strengthen the partnership both on and off the field.”

The Demons will ensure they respect the history of Springvale, which is what Casey was known as before the move.

Mahoney said it would honour the team's connection with Springvale on the club's jumper, while the team will also wear a heritage jumper at some stage through 2017.

Melbourne has a long-term agreement with the City of Casey until 2038 and Mahoney said the football connection would remain intact.

“We have been working very closely with the Casey Scorpions over the years and we are very appreciative of the Casey Scorpions board’s decision to agree to this change and we look forward to working more closely together this season," Mahoney said.


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anyone heard any of what Paul has?
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Rumblings around that an iconic Victorian football club has hit financial troubles. New board working through them. Testing times ahead.


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saintbrat wrote:anyone heard any of what Paul has?
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Rumblings around that an ironic Victorian football clod has hit financial troubles. New board working through them. Testing times ahead.
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There is nothing either good or bad............. tis paying (or not paying) hush money makes it so. :idea:
But now, it seems King Eddie will no longer pay. :shock:
Tomorrow, nor Tomorrow, nor Tomorrow
That it should come to this!
(Though rich gifts do wax poor when givers prove unkind.)

Oh Collingwood, reading these words are razors to my wounded heart.
Well, truth be told...............nah.
Fretting over the financial plight of that poor and putrid club??? Small beer. :mrgreen:


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No Holds Bard wrote:
saintbrat wrote:anyone heard any of what Paul has?
Paul Amy ‏@PaulAmy375

Rumblings around that an ironic Victorian football clod has hit financial troubles. New board working through them. Testing times ahead.
Come what come may, time and the hour runs through the roughest day.
Though thy Offences Be Rank and Smell To Heaven
There is nothing either good or bad............. tis paying (or not paying) hush money makes it so. :idea:
But now, it seems King Eddie will no longer pay. :shock:
Tomorrow, nor Tomorrow, nor Tomorrow
That it should come to this!
(Though rich gifts do wax poor when givers prove unkind.)

Oh Collingwood, reading these words are razors to my wounded heart.
Well, truth be told...............nah.
Fretting over the financial plight of that poor and putrid club??? Small beer. :mrgreen:
I have been to a BBQ and have had a few drinks through the afternoon and into the evening - so will give the benefit of the doubt that that is the reason why I don't understand a word of what is being said in the above quotes - if anyone could translate in simple English for an alcohol enthusiast it would be much appreciated.


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saint6709 wrote:
No Holds Bard wrote:
saintbrat wrote:anyone heard any of what Paul has?
Paul Amy ‏@PaulAmy375

Rumblings around that an ironic Victorian football clod has hit financial troubles. New board working through them. Testing times ahead.
Come what come may, time and the hour runs through the roughest day.
Though thy Offences Be Rank and Smell To Heaven
There is nothing either good or bad............. tis paying (or not paying) hush money makes it so. :idea:
But now, it seems King Eddie will no longer pay. :shock:
Tomorrow, nor Tomorrow, nor Tomorrow
That it should come to this!
(Though rich gifts do wax poor when givers prove unkind.)

Oh Collingwood, reading these words are razors to my wounded heart.
Well, truth be told...............nah.
Fretting over the financial plight of that poor and putrid club??? Small beer. :mrgreen:
I have been to a BBQ and have had a few drinks through the afternoon and into the evening - so will give the benefit of the doubt that that is the reason why I don't understand a word of what is being said in the above quotes - if anyone could translate in simple English for an alcohol enthusiast it would be much appreciated.
He could be trying to say that Collingwood's VFL team is putrid, not worth a Tim Tam, Worthless and unable to pay it's way.

I could be wrong, though, but i hope not.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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i guess it's not Fish Creek then
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