Free Kick Scandal - 6 years of misery
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Free Kick Scandal - 6 years of misery
Here is a break down of our' Frees For' over the past 6 years:
Here is my first post ever on this forum.
If you look at the last six years of 'frees for', do you see a trend? I do. This makes you wonder if there is an AFL bias or agenda. It's not in the AFL's interest for us to be successful. We are not a big Victorian Club and they want to 'grow the game' interstate. I'm 45 years a loyal Saints Man, and I want a fair go for the sake of my kids and all those little sainters out there.
I suggest you cut and paste the comment and stats below and email them to Caroline Wilson: newsdesk@theage.com.au (put 'Attention Caroline Wilson' in the byline. Let's flood her email inbox and see if we can get a story happening)
Dear Caroline,
as a passionate Saints supporter, Iwould like to draw your attention to free kick statistics over the last 6 years. Please notice the trends, especially with StKilda and West Coast. Supporters like us feel there is a bias and would urge you to investigate. It is not in the AFL's interest for us to be a successful club as they focus on 'growing the game'.
Please help us bring this issue into the media spotlight.
2016 Statistics Sorted by Frees For 2016 Team Statistics Ladder
1 North Melbourne
2 Western Bulldogs
3 West Coast
4 Brisbane
5 Collingwood
6 Hawthorn
7 Geelong
8 GWS
9 Essendon
10 Sydney
11 Melbourne
12 Port Adelaide
13 Richmond
14 Carlton
15 Adelaide
16 Fremantle
17 Gold Coast
18 St Kilda
2015 Statistics Sorted by Frees For 2015 Team Statistics Ladder
1 Richmond
2 North Melbourne
3 Gold Coast
4 Brisbane
5 West Coast
6 Carlton
7 Collingwood
8 Essendon
9 Melbourne
10 St Kilda
11 Port Adelaide
12 Hawthorn
13 Sydney
14 Fremantle
15 GWS
16 Western Bulldogs
17 Adelaide
18 Geelong
2014 Statistics Sorted by Frees For 2014 Team Statistics Ladder
1 Richmond
2 Carlton
3 Melbourne
4 West Coast
5 Brisbane
6 North Melbourne
7 Western Bulldogs
8 Geelong
9 Adelaide
10 Port Adelaide
11 Sydney
12 GWS
13 Hawthorn
14 Essendon
15 Gold Coast
16 St Kilda
17 Collingwood
18 Fremantle
2013 Statistics Sorted by Frees For 2013 Team Statistics Ladder
1 North Melbourne
2 West Coast
3 Western Bulldogs
4 Geelong
5 Adelaide
6 Melbourne
7 Richmond
8 Port Adelaide
9 Fremantle
10 Hawthorn
11 Brisbane
12 GWS
13 Sydney
14 Carlton
15 Collingwood
16 St Kilda
17 Gold Coast
18 Essendon
2012 Statistics Sorted by Frees For 2012 Team Statistics Ladder
1 West Coast
2 GWS
3 Port Adelaide
4 Richmond
5 Fremantle
6 Geelong
7 Hawthorn
8 Essendon
9 Melbourne
10 Sydney
11 North Melbourne
12 St Kilda
13 Carlton
14 Brisbane
15 Adelaide
16 Western Bulldogs
17 Gold Coast
18 Collingwood
2011 Statistics Sorted by Frees For 2011 Team Statistics Ladder
1 Port Adelaide
2 West Coast
3 North Melbourne
4 Geelong
5 Sydney
6 Essendon
7 Collingwood
8 Fremantle
9 Richmond
10 Hawthorn
11 Carlton
12 St Kilda
13 Adelaide
14 Western Bulldogs
15 Brisbane
16 Gold Coast
17 Melbourne
2010 Statistics Sorted by Frees For 2010 Team Statistics Ladder
1 West Coast
2 Port Adelaide
3 Hawthorn
4 Melbourne
5 Carlton
6 Essendon
7 Geelong
8 Sydney
9 Fremantle
10 North Melbourne
11 Richmond
12 Western Bulldogs
13 Adelaide
14 St Kilda
15 Collingwood
16 Brisbane
Here is my first post ever on this forum.
If you look at the last six years of 'frees for', do you see a trend? I do. This makes you wonder if there is an AFL bias or agenda. It's not in the AFL's interest for us to be successful. We are not a big Victorian Club and they want to 'grow the game' interstate. I'm 45 years a loyal Saints Man, and I want a fair go for the sake of my kids and all those little sainters out there.
I suggest you cut and paste the comment and stats below and email them to Caroline Wilson: newsdesk@theage.com.au (put 'Attention Caroline Wilson' in the byline. Let's flood her email inbox and see if we can get a story happening)
Dear Caroline,
as a passionate Saints supporter, Iwould like to draw your attention to free kick statistics over the last 6 years. Please notice the trends, especially with StKilda and West Coast. Supporters like us feel there is a bias and would urge you to investigate. It is not in the AFL's interest for us to be a successful club as they focus on 'growing the game'.
Please help us bring this issue into the media spotlight.
2016 Statistics Sorted by Frees For 2016 Team Statistics Ladder
1 North Melbourne
2 Western Bulldogs
3 West Coast
4 Brisbane
5 Collingwood
6 Hawthorn
7 Geelong
8 GWS
9 Essendon
10 Sydney
11 Melbourne
12 Port Adelaide
13 Richmond
14 Carlton
15 Adelaide
16 Fremantle
17 Gold Coast
18 St Kilda
2015 Statistics Sorted by Frees For 2015 Team Statistics Ladder
1 Richmond
2 North Melbourne
3 Gold Coast
4 Brisbane
5 West Coast
6 Carlton
7 Collingwood
8 Essendon
9 Melbourne
10 St Kilda
11 Port Adelaide
12 Hawthorn
13 Sydney
14 Fremantle
15 GWS
16 Western Bulldogs
17 Adelaide
18 Geelong
2014 Statistics Sorted by Frees For 2014 Team Statistics Ladder
1 Richmond
2 Carlton
3 Melbourne
4 West Coast
5 Brisbane
6 North Melbourne
7 Western Bulldogs
8 Geelong
9 Adelaide
10 Port Adelaide
11 Sydney
12 GWS
13 Hawthorn
14 Essendon
15 Gold Coast
16 St Kilda
17 Collingwood
18 Fremantle
2013 Statistics Sorted by Frees For 2013 Team Statistics Ladder
1 North Melbourne
2 West Coast
3 Western Bulldogs
4 Geelong
5 Adelaide
6 Melbourne
7 Richmond
8 Port Adelaide
9 Fremantle
10 Hawthorn
11 Brisbane
12 GWS
13 Sydney
14 Carlton
15 Collingwood
16 St Kilda
17 Gold Coast
18 Essendon
2012 Statistics Sorted by Frees For 2012 Team Statistics Ladder
1 West Coast
2 GWS
3 Port Adelaide
4 Richmond
5 Fremantle
6 Geelong
7 Hawthorn
8 Essendon
9 Melbourne
10 Sydney
11 North Melbourne
12 St Kilda
13 Carlton
14 Brisbane
15 Adelaide
16 Western Bulldogs
17 Gold Coast
18 Collingwood
2011 Statistics Sorted by Frees For 2011 Team Statistics Ladder
1 Port Adelaide
2 West Coast
3 North Melbourne
4 Geelong
5 Sydney
6 Essendon
7 Collingwood
8 Fremantle
9 Richmond
10 Hawthorn
11 Carlton
12 St Kilda
13 Adelaide
14 Western Bulldogs
15 Brisbane
16 Gold Coast
17 Melbourne
2010 Statistics Sorted by Frees For 2010 Team Statistics Ladder
1 West Coast
2 Port Adelaide
3 Hawthorn
4 Melbourne
5 Carlton
6 Essendon
7 Geelong
8 Sydney
9 Fremantle
10 North Melbourne
11 Richmond
12 Western Bulldogs
13 Adelaide
14 St Kilda
15 Collingwood
16 Brisbane
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Re: Free Kick Scandal - 6 years of misery
I agree, they should give saints some more free kicks simple as that
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Re: Free Kick Scandal - 6 years of misery
Maybe someone at the club needs to look at this plus have a look at frees against.
It would be interesting to see where all our frees against were given.
We need to work out why we are giving frees away and stop it from happening.
It would be interesting to see where all our frees against were given.
We need to work out why we are giving frees away and stop it from happening.
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Re: Free Kick Scandal - 6 years of misery
probably should check Freo's figures since master-coach has been there also.
Maybe our lack of frees is due to not having totally cleansed ourselves of his putrid influence!
Maybe our lack of frees is due to not having totally cleansed ourselves of his putrid influence!
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Re: Free Kick Scandal - 6 years of misery
And all this doesn't address the free kicks missed.
As ex-president Peter Summers said:
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”
St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”
St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!
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Re: Free Kick Scandal - 6 years of misery
You know I reckon this years stats have a lot to do with Luke Ball being the Umpires Director. Im sure he has cause to blame
St Kilda for shortening his career and affecting where he saw himself performing within the game.
St Kilda for shortening his career and affecting where he saw himself performing within the game.
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Re: Free Kick Scandal - 6 years of misery
Voices
I hear voices.
I hear voices.
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
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Re: Free Kick Scandal - 6 years of misery
Good work Mad Dog.
Are you able to provide a summary/composite of 2010-2017?
Are you able to provide a summary/composite of 2010-2017?
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Re: Free Kick Scandal - 6 years of misery
BringBackMadDogMuir wrote:Here is a break down of our' Frees For' over the past 6 years:
Here is my first post ever on this forum.
If you look at the last six years of 'frees for', do you see a trend? I do. This makes you wonder if there is an AFL bias or agenda. It's not in the AFL's interest for us to be successful. We are not a big Victorian Club and they want to 'grow the game' interstate. I'm 45 years a loyal Saints Man, and I want a fair go for the sake of my kids and all those little sainters out there.
I suggest you cut and paste the comment and stats below and email them to Caroline Wilson: newsdesk@theage.com.au (put 'Attention Caroline Wilson' in the byline. Let's flood her email inbox and see if we can get a story happening)
Dear Caroline,
as a passionate Saints supporter, Iwould like to draw your attention to free kick statistics over the last 6 years. Please notice the trends, especially with StKilda and West Coast. Supporters like us feel there is a bias and would urge you to investigate. It is not in the AFL's interest for us to be a successful club as they focus on 'growing the game'.
Please help us bring this issue into the media spotlight.
2016 Statistics Sorted by Frees For 2016 Team Statistics Ladder
1 North Melbourne
2 Western Bulldogs
3 West Coast
4 Brisbane
5 Collingwood
6 Hawthorn
7 Geelong
8 GWS
9 Essendon
10 Sydney
11 Melbourne
12 Port Adelaide
13 Richmond
14 Carlton
15 Adelaide
16 Fremantle
17 Gold Coast
18 St Kilda
2015 Statistics Sorted by Frees For 2015 Team Statistics Ladder
1 Richmond
2 North Melbourne
3 Gold Coast
4 Brisbane
5 West Coast
6 Carlton
7 Collingwood
8 Essendon
9 Melbourne
10 St Kilda
11 Port Adelaide
12 Hawthorn
13 Sydney
14 Fremantle
15 GWS
16 Western Bulldogs
17 Adelaide
18 Geelong
2014 Statistics Sorted by Frees For 2014 Team Statistics Ladder
1 Richmond
2 Carlton
3 Melbourne
4 West Coast
5 Brisbane
6 North Melbourne
7 Western Bulldogs
8 Geelong
9 Adelaide
10 Port Adelaide
11 Sydney
12 GWS
13 Hawthorn
14 Essendon
15 Gold Coast
16 St Kilda
17 Collingwood
18 Fremantle
2013 Statistics Sorted by Frees For 2013 Team Statistics Ladder
1 North Melbourne
2 West Coast
3 Western Bulldogs
4 Geelong
5 Adelaide
6 Melbourne
7 Richmond
8 Port Adelaide
9 Fremantle
10 Hawthorn
11 Brisbane
12 GWS
13 Sydney
14 Carlton
15 Collingwood
16 St Kilda
17 Gold Coast
18 Essendon
2012 Statistics Sorted by Frees For 2012 Team Statistics Ladder
1 West Coast
2 GWS
3 Port Adelaide
4 Richmond
5 Fremantle
6 Geelong
7 Hawthorn
8 Essendon
9 Melbourne
10 Sydney
11 North Melbourne
12 St Kilda
13 Carlton
14 Brisbane
15 Adelaide
16 Western Bulldogs
17 Gold Coast
18 Collingwood
2011 Statistics Sorted by Frees For 2011 Team Statistics Ladder
1 Port Adelaide
2 West Coast
3 North Melbourne
4 Geelong
5 Sydney
6 Essendon
7 Collingwood
8 Fremantle
9 Richmond
10 Hawthorn
11 Carlton
12 St Kilda
13 Adelaide
14 Western Bulldogs
15 Brisbane
16 Gold Coast
17 Melbourne
2010 Statistics Sorted by Frees For 2010 Team Statistics Ladder
1 West Coast
2 Port Adelaide
3 Hawthorn
4 Melbourne
5 Carlton
6 Essendon
7 Geelong
8 Sydney
9 Fremantle
10 North Melbourne
11 Richmond
12 Western Bulldogs
13 Adelaide
14 St Kilda
15 Collingwood
16 Brisbane
Yep, we get screwed every year!! By the way, your Nick is way too close to mine, don't say anything to controversial, I don't wanna get blamed!!
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Re: Free Kick Scandal - 6 years of misery
I thought you were just talking to yourself again...BringBackMadDog wrote:
Yep, we get screwed every year!! By the way, your Nick is way too close to mine, don't say anything to controversial, I don't wanna get blamed!!
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Re: Free Kick Scandal - 6 years of misery
Public Holiday and was bored.
Here is 2006-rnd 19 2016. Ordered by free kick average difference per game.
Left GWS and GC out.
The DIFF over 11 seasons should be basically 0. A difference of above or below 1 is significant.
At one/-one that is 22 less more/frees every year. Year after year, for a total of 242 more /less frees than the average over the time period.
Biggest outlier is obviously West Coast. About 750 more frees for than against in the eleven past seasons.
FOR AVE AGAINST AVE DIFF
West Coast 20.32 17.2 3.12
North Melbourne 19.49 17.89 1.6
Carlton 18.49 17.48 1
Western Bulldogs 18.23 17.69 0.54
Geelong 19.68 19.28 0.4
Collingwood 17.47 17.1 0.37
Port Adelaide 19.4 19.07 0.33
Essendon 18.13 17.99 0.14
Adelaide. 17.9 17.87 0.03
Melbourne 18.37 18.8 -0.43
Richmond 18.77 19.21 -0.44
Fremantle 18.04 18.75 -0.71
St Kilda 18.01 18.79 -0.78
Brisbane 18.2 19.15 -0.95
Hawthorn. 18.79 19.82 -1.03
Sydney 18.48 19.77 -1.29
Here is 2006-rnd 19 2016. Ordered by free kick average difference per game.
Left GWS and GC out.
The DIFF over 11 seasons should be basically 0. A difference of above or below 1 is significant.
At one/-one that is 22 less more/frees every year. Year after year, for a total of 242 more /less frees than the average over the time period.
Biggest outlier is obviously West Coast. About 750 more frees for than against in the eleven past seasons.
FOR AVE AGAINST AVE DIFF
West Coast 20.32 17.2 3.12
North Melbourne 19.49 17.89 1.6
Carlton 18.49 17.48 1
Western Bulldogs 18.23 17.69 0.54
Geelong 19.68 19.28 0.4
Collingwood 17.47 17.1 0.37
Port Adelaide 19.4 19.07 0.33
Essendon 18.13 17.99 0.14
Adelaide. 17.9 17.87 0.03
Melbourne 18.37 18.8 -0.43
Richmond 18.77 19.21 -0.44
Fremantle 18.04 18.75 -0.71
St Kilda 18.01 18.79 -0.78
Brisbane 18.2 19.15 -0.95
Hawthorn. 18.79 19.82 -1.03
Sydney 18.48 19.77 -1.29
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