Collingwood players tested positive

[The Fireman]

just heard on the tv that 11 players had hair samples testing positive...watch this space. I'll bet they were on something during the 2nd GF against us. If it is proven they are cheating now..then it's highly probable they were cheating then.

[saintbrat]

oops Eddie- worry about your layers - not a new stadium
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/t ... a7b44dfc7f

A QUARTER of Collingwood’s playing list recorded positive tests to illicit drugs over summer.

The bombshell revelation is evidence the AFL and its 18 clubs are losing the fight against the use of illicit substances.

The Herald Sun has confirmed up to 11 Magpies players had tested positive to drugs over the off-season, despite two teammates — Josh Thomas and Lachie Keeffe — being rubbed out for two seasons after being caught with illicit drugs in their systems.

But the Pies — who will face Sydney on Saturday night — are not the only club with alarming hair-testing results.

Industry sources said there was at least two other clubs with higher readings than Collingwood and several clubs in the vicinity of Magpies’ results.

The AFL, Collingwood and the other clubs could not discuss the revelation this evening because of a confidentiality agreement struck between the AFL and the players.

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Eddie on FOX: 'It could well be the truth. We don't find out. Its an AFL and AFLPA matter. These things are supposed to remain confidential'

[The Fireman]

Roberton is smart

[saintsRrising]

just heard on the tv that 11 players had hair samples testing positive...watch this space.

Only named Pies. But indicated 3 clubs with substantial players and implied more clubs with less.

Plus I have a feeling it is "recreational" drugs rather than "performancing enhancing".

I'll bet they were on something during the 2nd GF against us. If it is proven they are cheating now..then it's highly probable they were cheating then.

See my last comment. You may be backing the wrong horse.

[The Fireman]

I'll bet they were on something during the 2nd GF against us. If it is proven they are cheating now..then it's highly probable they were cheating then.

See my last comment. You may be backing the wrong horse.

maybe but I have always thought they looked too fresh in the 2nd GF.

[BigMart]

All clubs would have them... Drugs are rife in the AFL/NRL

Lance Franklin does enough blow to kill a small horse

[Con Gorozidis]

It is definitely recreational drugs.

It is why Nick Maxwell spoke out about it this week.

[Playon]

just heard on the tv that 11 players had hair samples testing positive...watch this space. I'll bet they were on something during the 2nd GF against us. If it is proven they are cheating now..then it's highly probable they were cheating then.

I believe it was in the 2nd GF six players tested High levels of human growth hormones, similar to the Chinese swimmers.
The problem is that human growth hormones occur naturally in the body so very difficult to prove tampering.
But at the same time for the pies to get to these level of human growth hormones (the amount of ) was questionable at the very least.
Time is also running out for the tests to be re-evaluated as it something like a 6-7 years or forget it. If it cant be proved in that period it cant be proved at all, with all blood samples sent to the scrap yard .

Either way we wont get a flag out of it and nor would we want one, justification would be that they were stripped of it and publicly named and shamed.
Still its a hard call and they are clear of any wrong doing. Lets hope they won it honesty

[saintbrat]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/h ... nqpz7.html

dispute of the number

[chook23]

just heard on the tv that 11 players had hair samples testing positive...watch this space.

Only named Pies. But indicated 3 clubs with substantial players and implied more clubs with less.

Plus I have a feeling it is "recreational" drugs rather than "performancing enhancing".

I'll bet they were on something during the 2nd GF against us. If it is proven they are cheating now..then it's highly probable they were cheating then.

See my last comment. You may be backing the wrong horse.

I detest the use of the word "recreational"..................they are illicit or illegal

[chook23]

It is definitely recreational drugs.

It is why Nick Maxwell spoke out about it this week.

Another poor use of the word "recreational".........................

makes my blood boil

[howlinwolf]

It was reported this week that all teams recorded positive results and some more than Collingwood.
Definitely illegal non PEDs.
I wouldn't throw stones yet Firey.
It's a sign of the times.
I'm too old to understand the "benefits".

[Jacks Back]

Come on. None of this shoosh, shoosh, don't tell anyone until three strikes or two or whatever.

KB had a good idea (imho) for once when he said ban any player that is caught using illicit drugs for 6 weeks as a first offence, 12 weeks for a second and then a season for a third and subsequent offences. And all with no pay during the relevant period.

Surely that should weed out the d*ckheads for them to toe the line otherwise it's just all smoke and mirrors and $100 bills.

[saintsRrising]

just heard on the tv that 11 players had hair samples testing positive...watch this space.

Only named Pies. But indicated 3 clubs with substantial players and implied more clubs with less.

Plus I have a feeling it is "recreational" drugs rather than "performancing enhancing".

I'll bet they were on something during the 2nd GF against us. If it is proven they are cheating now..then it's highly probable they were cheating then.

See my last comment. You may be backing the wrong horse.

I detest the use of the word "recreational"..................they are illicit or illegal

Sorry but the terms are not mutually exclusive.

The drugs are used for recreation and are used illegally.

Though I would add that it is not what I would do for recreation.

[saintsRrising]

It was reported this week that all teams recorded positive results and some more than Collingwood.
Definitely illegal non PEDs.
I wouldn't throw stones yet Firey.
It's a sign of the times.
I'm too old to understand the "benefits".

Indeed.

Odds are that at least one St Kilda player, and I don't mean Carlisle, would be on the list.

Carlisle was just the one to send video of it to guys that were not really mates.

[elizabethr]

Much Ado About Nothing

[The Fireman]

It was reported this week that all teams recorded positive results and some more than Collingwood.
Definitely illegal non PEDs.
I wouldn't throw stones yet Firey.
It's a sign of the times.
I'm too old to understand the "benefits".

not throwing stones....just living in hope

[saintspremiers]

Tommy Lee must have taken drugs to get his hairstyle happening

[Wayne42]

Every time Pert stands on his soapbox and bellows about drugs in football, i always think there is an issue at Collingwood, that he can't openly admit, so he generalises.

May well be the case if there is any truth in these stories.

[8856brother]

I'm absolutely flabbergasted.

[markp]

But they'd never take banned PED's.

And "two other clubs fared worse"...

[Sainternist]

just heard on the tv that 11 players had hair samples testing positive...watch this space. I'll bet they were on something during the 2nd GF against us. If it is proven they are cheating now..then it's highly probable they were cheating then.

I'll always be suspicious of Geelong 2007 - 2011.

But apparently you're only cheating if you get caught.

[GrumpyOne]

The problem is not that the players are taking so-called recreational drugs, but they may be taking these drugs to mask detection of performance enhancing drugs.

[loris]

Every time Pert stands on his soapbox and bellows about drugs in football, i always think there is an issue at Collingwood, that he can't openly admit, so he generalises.

May well be the case if there is any truth in these stories.

Yes Wayne42, like you I thought 'here we go again' when Pert came out about 2 weeks ago, saying drugs was still a problem in the AFL. I thought it's just a matter of time, before it came out that Collingwood would be mentioned. Then my suspicions were heightened when Maxwell came out, parroting the same problems.

So no surprise when up pops Collingwood team re positive testing. They sure get tipped off early to get their PR machine cranked up and ready to go. Eddie trying to bluff, first he heard of it was yesterday

Let's hope Saints are only in the minority with our players. Carlilse is enough to deal with this year.

[remboy]

Every time Pert stands on his soapbox and bellows about drugs in football, i always think there is an issue at Collingwood, that he can't openly admit, so he generalises.

May well be the case if there is any truth in these stories.

Yes Wayne42, like you I thought 'here we go again' when Pert came out about 2 weeks ago, saying drugs was still a problem in the AFL. I thought it's just a matter of time, before it came out that Collingwood would be mentioned. Then my suspicions were heightened when Maxwell came out, parroting the same problems.

So no surprise when up pops Collingwood team re positive testing. They sure get tipped off early to get their PR machine cranked up and ready to go. Eddie trying to bluff, first he heard of it was yesterday

Let's hope Saints are only in the minority with our players. Carlilse is enough to deal with this year.

Pert would only have first hand knowledge of what the situation is at Collingwood. When he talks you could safely assume he's talking about the Pies.
It was also mentioned that there were other clubs with as many or more positive results. Hope the Saints weren't one but you don't know.