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Victorian Academies? yes or no

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The AFL will radically restructure the development of young football talent across Australia with the creation of club-zoned multicultural and Indigenous academies.
In a move that has been viewed as a precursor to the return of club-branded development zones, the competition is expected to allocate a significant portion of the 2017-2022 broadcast rights money in a bid to attract under-represented talented boys into the game.
St Kilda are expected to develop talent in a region ranging from the Dandenongs to the Mornington Peninsula.
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Re: Victorian Academies? yes or no

Post: # 1588746Post magnifisaint »

it's a good idea and might provide an alternative pathway rather than TAC


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Re: Victorian Academies? yes or no

Post: # 1588748Post saintspremiers »

Good in theory and would work great if there was lots of migration from a country of tall people like Holland but I can't see too many Chinese and Indians playing our game - genetically they aren't really tall enough.


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I disagree, the game will evolve as the players do. Watch the replay of the Rugby World Cup game Southafrica vs Japan


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Post: # 1588750Post saintjake »

Great idea, plenty of good footballers have come from down on the peninsula.
Maybe someone could knock up a best 22 from our zone?


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Post: # 1588754Post bigred »

Not sure I like it.

Would prefer to abolish what the other states have.


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Post: # 1588755Post saintspremiers »

bigred wrote:Not sure I like it.

Would prefer to abolish what the other states have.
Good point. And then maybe get the AFL to run all the academy's which then makes the whole shebang fair and equitable


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Post: # 1588760Post borderbarry »

But there should be a limit on the amount of players a club can draft from its zone. No limit on the amount of kids a club can have in its academy.


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Post: # 1588763Post SaintWodonga »

a no from me... Draft is too comprimised as it stands now.


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Post: # 1588769Post bigred »

There should not be a need for an "Academy" system if junior development is running appropriately in each state.

National carnivals and the like of course. But the difference in skill depth in the northern states will always be the issue.

Clubs need to be involved, however when it comes to the draft, in MY opinion the current bidding system for academy players just compromises the draft.

Perhaps the Victorian clubs need to be allocated a pool of players to assist with similar development programs such as Sydney and Brisbane, but that should be done without any potential draft priority.

Just my opinion.


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saintbrat wrote:
The AFL will radically restructure the development of young football talent across Australia with the creation of club-zoned multicultural and Indigenous academies.
In a move that has been viewed as a precursor to the return of club-branded development zones, the competition is expected to allocate a significant portion of the 2017-2022 broadcast rights money in a bid to attract under-represented talented boys into the game.
St Kilda are expected to develop talent in a region ranging from the Dandenongs to the Mornington Peninsula.
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Post: # 1588794Post ace »

Collingwood could be given an academy that only takes in mentally retarded kids and kids with poor dental care.
Oh nearly forgot and kids with criminal records from Broadmeadows and Thomastown.


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Post: # 1588808Post Bluthy »

I suppose its another step in trying to get back some sense of connections with the local area the clubs come from after its all become so sanitised and generic. But it relies heavily on AFL zoning it fairly and I don't trust them as far as I can throw them.


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Watch the powerful clubs get preferential 'zones' after incessant lobbying to the commission. A dangerous situation.......


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Re: Victorian Academies? yes or no

Post: # 1588829Post Wayne42 »

Interesting that the Bulldogs will get our old zone of Ballarat.

We had a real mix of quality with our players from Ballarat. From Champions of the game to those that weren't really
VFL standard. Collectively, they won us more than our fair share of Spoons.


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Re: Victorian Academies? yes or no

Post: # 1588913Post borderbarry »

Ace, what have you got against mentally handicapped kids that you would send them to Collingwood?


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