Hamstrings - What's Going On

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Hamstrings - What's Going On

Post: # 1532124Post 8856brother »

Ray - 12 weeks
Billings - 4 Weeks
Savage - 4 Weeks
Roberton - 4 Weeks

Add to that our other injury issues. Why are there so many again before we have even fired a shot in anger.

Disappointing.


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Post: # 1532125Post saintspremiers »

Agree we appear to have some management issues re hammys.

Anyway we are a shoe in for the spoon already lol


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Post: # 1532128Post kp83 »

Get used to a long injury list for the next few years...will always happen to a list with our age demographic (lots of young players whose bodies haven't matured enough yet and a few older players whose bodies are starting to give up). Having said this, it is annoying that Sav & D-Rob are injured as I wouldn't put them in those categories.

As long as we stay away from any season ending injuries (like the Dogs and WC) at this stage of the year I'll be happy.

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Questions must be asked!


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kp83 wrote:Get used to a long injury list for the next few years...will always happen to a list with our age demographic (lots of young players whose bodies haven't matured enough yet and a few older players whose bodies are starting to give up). Having said this, it is annoying that Sav & D-Rob are injured as I wouldn't put them in those categories.

As long as we stay away from any season ending injuries (like the Dogs and WC) at this stage of the year I'll be happy.

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Doesn't explain Ray, savage or Roberton. Does anyone know when these happened apart from Billings. Ray must have torn a tendon off the bone.


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spert wrote:Questions must be asked!

What questions? How do you stop soft tissue injuries?


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Post: # 1532145Post SainterK »

I guess you ask if they had twinges, if they had come back too early from hamstrings in recent weeks...

That kind of thing.


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Re: Hamstrings - What's Going On

Post: # 1532147Post Dis Believer »

Reading the list it looks like both Roberton and Savage (to a lesser extent) are more precautionary than anything. Roberton out for only a week with a hammy and Savage for two weeks. Would like to know if it's an approach because of the time of year or indicative of how we will approach these type of things from now on - no risks.


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Post: # 1532149Post dragit »

more squats needed perhaps.


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Post: # 1532155Post Joe Bloggs »

There are a variety of potential risk factors for hamstring injuries.

Inadequate warming up and poor stretching
Muscle weakness or an imbalance in the muscle strength within the hamstring muscles
Muscle weakness or an imbalance between the hamstrings and quadriceps
Poor footwear
Recurrent injury when the muscle hasn't completely healed from previous damage.


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Post: # 1532158Post spert »

Bunk_Moreland wrote:
spert wrote:Questions must be asked!

What questions? How do you stop soft tissue injuries?
That's a good start!


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Joe Bloggs wrote:There are a variety of potential risk factors for hamstring injuries.

Inadequate warming up and poor stretching
Muscle weakness or an imbalance in the muscle strength within the hamstring muscles
Muscle weakness or an imbalance between the hamstrings and quadriceps
Poor footwear
Recurrent injury when the muscle hasn't completely healed from previous damage.

Or just plain bad luck.


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Post: # 1532169Post sunsaint »

dragit wrote:more squats needed perhaps.
if Ive learnt anything from the essendope thread - its the PE drugs


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The new fitness guy ??
From soccer background I believe ?


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Post: # 1532173Post Zed »

wasnt that long ago I read we were fitter from a running perspective than last year - so has there been more focus on repeat sprints ?


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Post: # 1532174Post GRAMophone »

plugger66 wrote:
kp83 wrote:Get used to a long injury list for the next few years...will always happen to a list with our age demographic (lots of young players whose bodies haven't matured enough yet and a few older players whose bodies are starting to give up). Having said this, it is annoying that Sav & D-Rob are injured as I wouldn't put them in those categories.

As long as we stay away from any season ending injuries (like the Dogs and WC) at this stage of the year I'll be happy.

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Doesn't explain Ray, savage or Roberton. Does anyone know when these happened apart from Billings. Ray must have torn a tendon off the bone.
Ruptured tendon for RayI think. Might have had surgery today


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Re: Hamstrings - What's Going On

Post: # 1532175Post dragit »

Zed wrote:wasnt that long ago I read we were fitter from a running perspective than last year - so has there been more focus on repeat sprints ?
Makes sense, billings, Roberton & savage probably didn't have great bases... Ray sounds like just a random one.


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plugger66 wrote:
Joe Bloggs wrote:There are a variety of potential risk factors for hamstring injuries.

Inadequate warming up and poor stretching
Muscle weakness or an imbalance in the muscle strength within the hamstring muscles
Muscle weakness or an imbalance between the hamstrings and quadriceps
Poor footwear
Recurrent injury when the muscle hasn't completely healed from previous damage.

Or just plain bad luck.
Nup. Poor management if there is a large volume in a short period. Not there yet but if it continues over the next month then it's not just bad luck.


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Post: # 1532185Post White Winmar »

Hate to say it, but we didn't have many when Dave Misson was in charge. No coincidence there. Just sayin'...............


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Post: # 1532193Post plugger66 »

saintspremiers wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Joe Bloggs wrote:There are a variety of potential risk factors for hamstring injuries.

Inadequate warming up and poor stretching
Muscle weakness or an imbalance in the muscle strength within the hamstring muscles
Muscle weakness or an imbalance between the hamstrings and quadriceps
Poor footwear
Recurrent injury when the muscle hasn't completely healed from previous damage.

Or just plain bad luck.
Nup. Poor management if there is a large volume in a short period. Not there yet but if it continues over the next month then it's not just bad luck.

So it isn't no. And it isn't poor management?


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Re: Hamstrings - What's Going On

Post: # 1532195Post spert »

I hope this is not a case of training footballers to be super fit athletes rather than training footballers to be super fit footballers.


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Post: # 1532204Post remboy »

It's an AFL conspiracy I tell ya!


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Post: # 1532206Post saintbrat »

according to one of the coaches

Savage and Roberton did their within seconds of one another during a training drill- Dylan has had a good preseason after a really rough achilles situation last year.

I saw Farren go down during the game Saturday- and wondered that no one went out to him- again the coach said because he hasn't had many injuries over his career- may not have recognised what he had done.


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Post: # 1532207Post loris »

saintbrat wrote:according to one of the coaches

Savage and Roberton did their within seconds of one another during a training drill-
I bet that specific training drill gets the flick from now on!


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