Another Question?

[BigMart]

How come

With a minute or so to go, a point kicked, Shannon (the cannon) Hurn kicking in.... HTF we allowed the ball to get over the back into space, with no coverage, no +1, no deep zone allowing them the back 50??

The only danger to protect.... Was the only play that wasn't protected?!

Poorly drilled?

Lack of leadership?

No coaching instruction?

How could that be??

This is all before making a long down the line entry to a packed (outnumbered) F50 when we had possession of the ball at HF... 1 point in front and 2 minutes remaining.... Wouldn't one milk 30-60 secs and try and enter methodically for a set shot... So a zone could be set up for a miss???

Just asking??

[joffaboy]

How come

With a minute or so to go, a point kicked, Shannon (the cannon) Hurn kicking in.... HTF we allowed the ball to get over the back into space, with no coverage, no +1, no deep zone allowing them the back 50??

The only danger to protect.... Was the only play that wasn't protected?!

Poorly drilled?

Lack of leadership?

No coaching instruction?

How could that be??

This is all before making a long down the line entry to a packed (outnumbered) F50 when we had possession of the ball at HF... 1 point in front and 2 minutes remaining.... Wouldn't one milk 30-60 secs and try and enter methodically for a set shot... So a zone could be set up for a miss???

Just asking??

All good questions. Joey actually mentioned this in an interview, said they knew they had to do that, but they messed it up.

If you look at the kick Joey should have stayed down as it spilled over the back.

Should have been defended better.

We complain (and rightly) about umpiring, but the players did everything to lose the game tonight, especially in the last quarter.

I am more concerned about our inability to run out a game. Has happened all season.

[remboy]

What made it worse was that Natanui was standing in the centre square waiting for it. The kick in was always going in his direction.

[SaintPav]

When was the last time we won a close game? 2010?

[BigMart]

Was decision making and structure more a worry than fitness? No one behind the footy with a lead and a minute to play??

A pull the trigger play with the footy in the last two minutes with a lead to protect?? We could have controlled the tempo...

Our effort and intensity was better than the opposition IMO..... It was what we did which was costly.

Unfortunately for Joey, he made three costly errors in the last few minutes and gifted them a win.... But he played well regardless....

That being said, a courageous (yet Correct) decision and the win we deserved would have been.

[BigMart]

It was the only play.... It was pretty obvious...

[creepypolar]

When was the last time we won a close game? 2010?

Carlton this season...

[saintbrat]

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All good questions. Joey actually mentioned this in an interview, said they knew they had to do that, but they messed it up.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-09/i ... tion=sport

[gringo]

I still can't over emphasise enough where all our injuries this season have been. We have had a defenders curse

Fisher -missed preseason and then possibly a broken toe when back and missed several games.
Gwilt- missed preseason came back late reinjured now getting back again but slowly.
Simpkin- Came on last year and has been injured then unsighted all year.
Gilbert- back to his best then injured with a knee.
Wright- broken jaw.
Newnes- broken jaw.
Stanley- played back injured early
ferguson- injured knee
Dempster -injured and missed games.

Goddard- FA
Gram- Delisted
Clarke- Delisted

That leaves a pretty seriously undermanned and un cohesive backline. Roberton is doing an amazing job holding the place together and is our only defender to play every game. It looks a bit shaky coming out sometimes but we are pretty good considering we had Dunnell on a handful of games, Webster on about his 3rd game, Newnes on about 18? games, Roberton on about 50 games and Dempster and Gwilt as our tall backs. no wonder we get a bit shaky when the heat turns up.

[BigMart]

Not really interested in personnel ........ Just want to know the reason we had no player behind the footy.... And had an 18 zone in this situation.... Mind boggling IMO.

Also why a leader (Joey) didn't slow it down and be smarter with possession?

[spert]

Basically our defensive work across the ground, not just in the defensive half, is poor and has been all year, and especially around packs where we don't defend on the opposition goal side and this is my big issue with Watters' coaching every game. I know he was highly regarded as defensive coach at Collingwood, but some of his tactics with us are worrying me. Maybe he could go back to basics and start with the "man-up on your opponent" method.

[oh when the]

where was our runner yelling instructions !

[southernsaint]

In 09 and 10 we had an experienced well drilled team. have you thought that with so many younger inexperienced kids that is the reason why such things happen?

[Junction Oval]

A great learning opportunity here - a classic lack of on ground set-up awareness. Let's hope that they view the vision of the last few minutes, over and over again and learn from how poorly they set up - it cost them the game.

That's what happens when you have so many young guys in a team. Mind you, a bit of talk from the experienced players should have made a difference, but in the heat of the moment, it's all a bit chaotic.

[BigMart]

Are you saying

Dempster, Riewoldt, Dal Santo, Gwilt, Jones, Milne, Armitage, Steven, McEvoy, Motagna to name a few, couldn't deliver some instructions for the kids.... Who btw train 5 days a week

[older saint]

Monty summed it up they knew what they had to do they did not do it - not coaching that is on ground player responsibility they should have pushed back and made Hurn kick it 20 metres short - use time and also get the ball out of their best kicks hands.

[South OZ Saint]

How come

With a minute or so to go, a point kicked, Shannon (the cannon) Hurn kicking in.... HTF we allowed the ball to get over the back into space, with no coverage, no +1, no deep zone allowing them the back 50??

The only danger to protect.... Was the only play that wasn't protected?!

Poorly drilled?

Lack of leadership?

No coaching instruction?

How could that be??

This is all before making a long down the line entry to a packed (outnumbered) F50 when we had possession of the ball at HF... 1 point in front and 2 minutes remaining.... Wouldn't one milk 30-60 secs and try and enter methodically for a set shot... So a zone could be set up for a miss???

Just asking??

Bloody Hell so it wasn't just me !
Blind Freddie would have seen what was coming Hurn has a massive roost on him why was there no one free across halfback?