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Can we get Essendon back?

Post: # 1316870Post StNoodles »

Heppell is out of contract at the end of the season.

After landing BJ, it's being suggested the Bombers might struggle to keep him on their list, particularly if he continues his current form and increases his worth.

The kid is a gun. Right age. Why not go hard?

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... 2hh9t.html


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Re: Can we get Essendon back?

Post: # 1316872Post Teflon »

Yes to that one


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Post: # 1316876Post tweedaletomanning »

Recent History suggests we are ZERO chance of getting him

The reality is he will stay at the bombers witha "secret" 3 way deal with one of the sponsers a la goddard.

Funny how there's never any " REAL" salary cap problems with the bigger clubs.


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Post: # 1316880Post FQF »

I think it is definitely worth exploring seriously.

And although it would be nice to have "revenge", that shouldn't be the club's motivation. It just so happens that he is exactly the type of player — in all aspects — that we are seriously lacking.


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Post: # 1316886Post CURLY »

tweedaletomanning wrote:Recent History suggests we are ZERO chance of getting him

The reality is he will stay at the bombers witha "secret" 3 way deal with one of the sponsers a la goddard.

Funny how there's never any " REAL" salary cap problems with the bigger clubs.


No Travis Cloke getting a five year deal with Channel 9 had nothing I repeat nothing to do with signing for Collingwood for 5 years. :shock:


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Re: Can we get Essendon back?

Post: # 1316890Post gringo »

CURLY wrote:
tweedaletomanning wrote:Recent History suggests we are ZERO chance of getting him

The reality is he will stay at the bombers witha "secret" 3 way deal with one of the sponsers a la goddard.

Funny how there's never any " REAL" salary cap problems with the bigger clubs.


No Travis Cloke getting a five year deal with Channel 9 had nothing I repeat nothing to do with signing for Collingwood for 5 years. :shock:

Luke Ball did as well when he signed up to the Pies. What a bizarre coincidence.

Goddard will be in transport on huge money when he leaves footy.

Still we should push up his monetary value for them he will at least put pressure on the fringes then.


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StNoodles wrote:Heppell is out of contract at the end of the season.

After landing BJ, it's being suggested the Bombers might struggle to keep him on their list, particularly if he continues his current form and increases his worth.

The kid is a gun. Right age. Why not go hard?

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... 2hh9t.html

of course...you should always plan to pay thieving arseholes back....eddie always does....i'm still for paying the dees back for stealing big carl.... twice....likewise richmond for stewart....we may get the chance with the dees big time this year....payback is always a bitch imhfo.... :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:


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Post: # 1316926Post paddy »

the biggest problem is getting players to WANT to play with us.....


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Post: # 1316927Post Ralphy »

stinger wrote:
StNoodles wrote:Heppell is out of contract at the end of the season.

After landing BJ, it's being suggested the Bombers might struggle to keep him on their list, particularly if he continues his current form and increases his worth.

The kid is a gun. Right age. Why not go hard?

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... 2hh9t.html

of course...you should always plan to pay thieving arseholes back....eddie always does....i'm still for paying the dees back for stealing big carl.... twice....likewise richmond for stewart....we may get the chance with the dees big time this year....payback is always a bitch imhfo.... :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:
Frawley... thats all i want Maybe silvia haha


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Post: # 1316932Post bergholt »

Ralphy wrote:Frawley... thats all i want Maybe silvia haha
Why does everyone seem to rate Sylvia? I haven't seen that much of him but I thought he was just a solid B grader.


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Post: # 1316933Post mr six o'clock »

What made me laugh on the weekend was that BJ inclusion appears to allow heppell to play full time in the mid-field !
I wonder if BJ is upset ?


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Post: # 1316936Post SinCitySainter »

Unfortunately we can't get him.
We are stuck getting solid B graders from other clubs.
Only the big clubs like Essendon or Collingwood can pinch A graders unless you are willing to pay stupid money.
We cannot pay a guy like Heppell enough to come to us compared to a Collingwood.
We would need to offer 250K a year more than Essendon for his head to be swayed.
Collingwood would only need to offer 50K more, that is the difference.

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Post: # 1316941Post Eastern »

Like the article said; Hepell will want a hefty pay rise and that could squeeze one or two players out. They seem to have heaps of KPP players. Any of them fit our needs? !!


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Post: # 1316947Post SainterK »

We don't pay overs, that has been made very clear.

Somehow the club is under the illusion that people are going to come to our club for reasons other than money, in this new FA market.

The likelyhood that he would come for less purely because he really wants white with his red and black....is very slim.


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Post: # 1316950Post plugger66 »

SainterK wrote:We don't pay overs, that has been made very clear.

Somehow the club is under the illusion that people are going to come to our club for reasons other than money, in this new FA market.

The likelyhood that he would come for less purely because he really wants white with his red and black....is very slim.

We might pay overs if we can get a 10 player because then they can justify paying overs. There is no point in paying overs and giving a 4 year contract to a 27 year old. The more we struggle the more letting BJ go seems like the right decision.


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plugger66 wrote:
SainterK wrote:We don't pay overs, that has been made very clear.

Somehow the club is under the illusion that people are going to come to our club for reasons other than money, in this new FA market.

The likelyhood that he would come for less purely because he really wants white with his red and black....is very slim.

We might pay overs if we can get a 10 player because then they can justify paying overs. There is no point in paying overs and giving a 4 year contract to a 27 year old. The more we struggle the more letting BJ go seems like the right decision.
That's not what they said though.

They said they won't pay anyone overs under this new model that they speak of.

Just media fibs?


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Post: # 1316952Post FQF »

SainterK wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
SainterK wrote:We don't pay overs, that has been made very clear.

Somehow the club is under the illusion that people are going to come to our club for reasons other than money, in this new FA market.

The likelyhood that he would come for less purely because he really wants white with his red and black....is very slim.

We might pay overs if we can get a 10 player because then they can justify paying overs. There is no point in paying overs and giving a 4 year contract to a 27 year old. The more we struggle the more letting BJ go seems like the right decision.
That's not what they said though.

They said they won't pay anyone overs under this new model that they speak of.

Just media fibs?
The club is trying to replicate the "Geelong model" where there star players stay for less than they could make elsewhere.

The only problem is that this immense sense of loyalty to the club is only created through team success (meaning a premiership). Alternatively, the club can offer many perks and a great lifestyle that aren't strictly part of a player's payment.


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Post: # 1316962Post plugger66 »

SainterK wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
SainterK wrote:We don't pay overs, that has been made very clear.

Somehow the club is under the illusion that people are going to come to our club for reasons other than money, in this new FA market.

The likelyhood that he would come for less purely because he really wants white with his red and black....is very slim.

We might pay overs if we can get a 10 player because then they can justify paying overs. There is no point in paying overs and giving a 4 year contract to a 27 year old. The more we struggle the more letting BJ go seems like the right decision.
That's not what they said though.

They said they won't pay anyone overs under this new model that they speak of.

Just media fibs?

But it may not be overs if a player is a 10 year player. And of course they will pay overs. Every club does. But they didnt and shouldnt for a 27 year old with form suggesting he was a 400K player.


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Post: # 1317084Post SaintTom »

Would be worth going for, in my opinion. We have salary cap space now, and could throw it hard at Heppell. Offer him a huge, front loaded contract, far beyond anything that Essendon can offer (whilst we still have the money to spare in the cap) to try and lure him across. There is no point in having free salary cap space for the next couple of years for the hell of it, and there's also no point in using it on old players who won't be there when we get our next crack. Someone like Heppell is ideal, and absolute gun who will be playing for 10 years. Worthwhile using up our free and otherwise useless space now to get him so he's still around when we have our next crack.


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SainterK wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
SainterK wrote:We don't pay overs, that has been made very clear.

Somehow the club is under the illusion that people are going to come to our club for reasons other than money, in this new FA market.

The likelyhood that he would come for less purely because he really wants white with his red and black....is very slim.

We might pay overs if we can get a 10 player because then they can justify paying overs. There is no point in paying overs and giving a 4 year contract to a 27 year old. The more we struggle the more letting BJ go seems like the right decision.
That's not what they said though.

They said they won't pay anyone overs under this new model that they speak of.

Just media fibs?

what a stupid flowering comment re bj.....he just may have been the difference between us being 2-0 instead of 0-2 ffs.... :roll: :roll: :roll: dumb even..... :roll: :roll: :roll:


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Post: # 1317089Post gringo »

bergholt wrote:
Ralphy wrote:Frawley... thats all i want Maybe silvia haha
Why does everyone seem to rate Sylvia? I haven't seen that much of him but I thought he was just a solid B grader.

Sylvia has faded but a few years ago he was looking like a gun. A bit like BJ a lot of the disappointment comes from the fact that he was expected to get even better than he was and never got to the elite super star point. Injury and suspensions seem to have screwed him too.


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Post: # 1317103Post matrix »

Roo was giving special comments during a game last week on channel seven.
Maybe he has a deal too?

Yes to hepps.
Won't happen thou
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Post: # 1317109Post Cairnsman »

Heppel isn't going anywhere.


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Post: # 1317116Post plugger66 »

stinger wrote:
SainterK wrote:
plugger66 wrote:



We might pay overs if we can get a 10 player because then they can justify paying overs. There is no point in paying overs and giving a 4 year contract to a 27 year old. The more we struggle the more letting BJ go seems like the right decision.
That's not what they said though.

They said they won't pay anyone overs under this new model that they speak of.

Just media fibs?

what a stupid flowering comment re bj.....he just may have been the difference between us being 2-0 instead of 0-2 ffs.... :roll: :roll: :roll: dumb even..... :roll: :roll: :roll:
Now i am 100% sure its the right decision.


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Post: # 1317123Post bergholt »

stinger wrote:what a stupid flowering comment re bj.....he just may have been the difference between us being 2-0 instead of 0-2 ffs.... :roll: :roll: :roll: dumb even..... :roll: :roll: :roll:
You're probably right on that, we would have won at least one of those two games with BJ in the side, possibly both. But would we have won the flag? And if not, was there any point in keeping him and slowing down the rebuild? Tough call for the list management team.


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