40 years ago , Carl?
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40 years ago , Carl?
The then VFL / AFL tried introducing the ten year rule
What was the reation when Carl left?
Seems bj has taken the Carl route and not the Barry and Barks track
What was the reation when Carl left?
Seems bj has taken the Carl route and not the Barry and Barks track
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Re: 40 years ago , Carl?
Thomas tweeted last night: ''Great clubs don't lose great people. On the surface it seems Saints were happy to release him. I'm somewhat perplexed.'
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says it all really...
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says it all really...
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
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Re: 40 years ago , Carl?
Yes, it was at the end of the 1972 season. Carl was 27 when he played his first game for the Demons in round 1 1973 - ironically against us. We won. The ten year rule enabled North to win their first flag, having received Doug Wade, John Rantall and Barry Davis through it. All three played in their first flag in 1975. The rule worked against teams that had been up for a while and had an old list. What's new!
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Re: 40 years ago , Carl?
What a stupid statement, Geelong lost Ablett for more cash then they could afford, are they not a great club?????stinger wrote:Thomas tweeted last night: ''Great clubs don't lose great people. On the surface it seems Saints were happy to release him. I'm somewhat perplexed.'
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Re: 40 years ago , Carl?
What a ridiculous statement. Every club has lost many great people over the years. It's just part of football.stinger wrote:Thomas tweeted last night: ''Great clubs don't lose great people. On the surface it seems Saints were happy to release him. I'm somewhat perplexed.'
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says it all really...
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Re: 40 years ago , Carl?
what were supporters reactions?
The only other similiar move I can think of is Colbert from geeling
The only other similiar move I can think of is Colbert from geeling
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Re: 40 years ago , Carl?
Truly great people don't want to leave!!!!!!!!!!Beno88 wrote:What a ridiculous statement. Every club has lost many great people over the years. It's just part of football.stinger wrote:Thomas tweeted last night: ''Great clubs don't lose great people. On the surface it seems Saints were happy to release him. I'm somewhat perplexed.'
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says it all really...
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Re: 40 years ago , Carl?
Methinks Mr GT don't get it. If we get two hundred games from BJ (a player whom we should never have had) and then recycle hm into a number 7 draft pick (I think Caddy went at 7, someone correct me if that's wrong) after those two hundred games, I think we're doing OK. Especially if Caddy then goes on to play two hundred games - 400 games resulting from a guy we should never have had to start with!
And the wraps I have read on Caddy seem to indicate a future two hundred gamer. Tough inside mid with a great kick - bring it on I say.
And the wraps I have read on Caddy seem to indicate a future two hundred gamer. Tough inside mid with a great kick - bring it on I say.
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Re: 40 years ago , Carl?
ST KILDA president Greg Westaway said tonight the Saints had no regrets about losing Brendon Goddard as they had offered him a ''lump'' of money to stay at the club.
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Blow me down I didnt think that muppet(westaway) ever spoke
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Re: 40 years ago , Carl?
what to losing big carl.......????...i was devastated...twice.....he left ..came back...and left again....saintbrat wrote:what were supporters reactions?
The only other similiar move I can think of is Colbert from geeling
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Re: 40 years ago , Carl?
he is(a muppet).and unfortunately , he did.(speak).....and with his mates nettlefold and pelchen, we could start our own muppet show.......noddy04 wrote:ST KILDA president Greg Westaway said tonight the Saints had no regrets about losing Brendon Goddard as they had offered him a ''lump'' of money to stay at the club.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/s ... z286C4v67U
Blow me down I didnt think that muppet(westaway) ever spoke
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Re: 40 years ago , Carl?
Ten years old when Carl left. Had his number on my jumper. My hero and favourite saint until Plugger, Nicky and Harvs came along. I was devasted at the time. Plenty of tears. No tears this time. Ditterich was a true great. Brendon, while very good, is not and now will never be a Saints 'great'. Might have been had we hung on in 2010.
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Re: 40 years ago , Carl?
from the Demons side
Carl Ditterich
DOB: 10 October, 1945
MFC Debut: Round 1, 1973 against St. Kilda at MCG
Last Game: Round 22, 1980 against Collingwood at MCG
Games: 82 (285 total)
Goals: 43 (156 total)
From: East Brighton/St. Kilda
Number: 10 1973-1975, 1979-1980
Honours:
Australian Football Hall of Fame member
Best and Fairest - 1973
Ditterich was an enigmatic St. Kilda superstar who won Brownlow Votes in his first game (against Melbourne) but often found himself on the wrong side of club officials and the tribunal. It was said that on that day he had told the great Ron Barassi to "get out of the way old man".
Having revolutionised ruck play and proved himself as a great aerialist, Ditterich's raw aggression would often see him in trouble with the umpires. Reported for striking in the second last round of the 1966 premiership season he was suspended for six weeks and missed the Saints premiership triumph.
Having battled knock knees as a child, Ditterich was afflicted with chronic ankle injuries as a footballer and was forced to have surgical boots made. He had also lost 20 percent of the vision in his right eye after having a stone thrown at him aged 14. Nevertheless he was a champion of the game and won the Saints Best and Fairest in 1968.
After initially stating that he'd cross to North Melbourne when his 10 years of service came up in April 1973, Ditterich angered North management with excessive demands and they pulled out of negotiations.
Instead he crossed to Melbourne for $82,000 and was feted by coach Ian Ridley as the gamebreaker the Demons needed to fire them into the five. However after off-season knee surgery but turned up to pre-season training unfit and Ridley was forced to put him on an intensive training program. He recovered to play every game for the year and win that year's Best and Fairest.
He finished runner-up in the 1974 B&F, but was on the way back to Moorabbin at the end of 1975. He was on a six year contract with significantly higher money than anybody else on the list and the club simply couldn't afford to pay him.
Desperate to lure him back, and recognising that Melbourne needed to take him off their payroll, the Saints made a cash payment to the Demons and swapped both Shane Grambeau and premiership player Allan Davis. Ditterich rejoined as captain, but had a dramatic mid-season walkout during 1978
http://demonwiki.org/Carl+Ditterich
he got 1/10th of what BJ is supposedly getting..
Carl Ditterich
DOB: 10 October, 1945
MFC Debut: Round 1, 1973 against St. Kilda at MCG
Last Game: Round 22, 1980 against Collingwood at MCG
Games: 82 (285 total)
Goals: 43 (156 total)
From: East Brighton/St. Kilda
Number: 10 1973-1975, 1979-1980
Honours:
Australian Football Hall of Fame member
Best and Fairest - 1973
Ditterich was an enigmatic St. Kilda superstar who won Brownlow Votes in his first game (against Melbourne) but often found himself on the wrong side of club officials and the tribunal. It was said that on that day he had told the great Ron Barassi to "get out of the way old man".
Having revolutionised ruck play and proved himself as a great aerialist, Ditterich's raw aggression would often see him in trouble with the umpires. Reported for striking in the second last round of the 1966 premiership season he was suspended for six weeks and missed the Saints premiership triumph.
Having battled knock knees as a child, Ditterich was afflicted with chronic ankle injuries as a footballer and was forced to have surgical boots made. He had also lost 20 percent of the vision in his right eye after having a stone thrown at him aged 14. Nevertheless he was a champion of the game and won the Saints Best and Fairest in 1968.
After initially stating that he'd cross to North Melbourne when his 10 years of service came up in April 1973, Ditterich angered North management with excessive demands and they pulled out of negotiations.
Instead he crossed to Melbourne for $82,000 and was feted by coach Ian Ridley as the gamebreaker the Demons needed to fire them into the five. However after off-season knee surgery but turned up to pre-season training unfit and Ridley was forced to put him on an intensive training program. He recovered to play every game for the year and win that year's Best and Fairest.
He finished runner-up in the 1974 B&F, but was on the way back to Moorabbin at the end of 1975. He was on a six year contract with significantly higher money than anybody else on the list and the club simply couldn't afford to pay him.
Desperate to lure him back, and recognising that Melbourne needed to take him off their payroll, the Saints made a cash payment to the Demons and swapped both Shane Grambeau and premiership player Allan Davis. Ditterich rejoined as captain, but had a dramatic mid-season walkout during 1978
http://demonwiki.org/Carl+Ditterich
he got 1/10th of what BJ is supposedly getting..
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Re: 40 years ago , Carl?
I think Carl had a costly divorce to pay for which is why he left for Melbourne.