HOLDING THE BALL AND DELIBERATE

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HOLDING THE BALL AND DELIBERATE

Post: # 1230011Post Sainternist »

...against Dangerfield at the most crucial stage of our final quarter comeback.

Jeez, wish the ump could have plucked the courage then.

Incredible that 80% of our team play like bums, yet we can still muster a fight back like that.

Encouraging!


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Post: # 1230052Post SydneySainter »

Most costly non-call against us so far this year. Super dirty.


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Post: # 1230054Post mullet »

If only we had of kicked straight. Senior players let us down in front of goal today. Cant blame the umpires or though I would like to, unless they are our goal kicking coaches


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Post: # 1230064Post SaintPav »

That was a really poor decision.


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mullet wrote:If only we had of kicked straight. Senior players let us down in front of goal today. Cant blame the umpires or though I would like to, unless they are our goal kicking coaches

THIS !! :evil:


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Post: # 1230073Post Sainternist »

mullet wrote:If only we had of kicked straight. Senior players let us down in front of goal today. Cant blame the umpires or though I would like to, unless they are our goal kicking coaches
By no means am I blaming the umpires for our loss, but boy, that one may have helped us pinch a win. All very hypothetical and like you said - we had some shocking misses at set shots for goal tonight. To the Ravens credit they made us pay for the bad misses and mistakes.


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Post: # 1230077Post savatage »

Considering the fisher deliberate out of bounds, that was a fkn joke.


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the 50/50 decisions went against us. Game was close.


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Post: # 1230084Post The darkness »

Worst non call of the night !!
Piss poor umpiring again .
Milne push in the back near the goal square ? Of course not .

Kick the bread and butter goals and we'd ....


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Post: # 1230094Post Verdun66 »

savatage wrote:Considering the fisher deliberate out of bounds, that was a fkn joke.
Yes...where was the consistency? There were a couple of others where they headed straight for the boundary. Fisher's bounced sideways, and then rolled out. Adelaide's went straight over the line. That's what annoys me.


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savatage wrote:Considering the fisher deliberate out of bounds, that was a fkn joke.
+1!


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Post: # 1230110Post gringo »

I hated the one in our goal square early when Armo got a few high knock and there was no free but went the other way a few moments later, it seems WCE get heaps but Saint duck when we get hit high what is the difference?


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Post: # 1230179Post Scollop »

two or three times their blokes spun out of tackles or hung onto the footy for way too long...a free kick in Melbourne, but play on in Morontown.

The misses from senior blokes cost us...when the game was close we lost momentum and those misses gave Crows the footy, from the kick in they took it up the other end and goaled. Not only does that sap your energy but it also gives your opponent breathing space and room for concentration lapses. I think Crows had a great 3rd qter, but we were brilliant in the last.

I'm looking forward to seeing Stanley and Simpkin and Saad back, looking forward to the improvement in most of the younger brigade and looking forward to the rest of 2012. All we need to do is capture that frenetic run and flair that we displayed in the last 8 or 9 minutes and play that way for the whole game. We did the same thing in game 1 this year when we tried to kick 3 goals in the last 3 minutes against Port. Be daring, take the game on and don't think about what might go wrong, think about where you want to the ball to go and have the courage and confidence to back your team mates and run to space to offer a target.


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Post: # 1230320Post Enrico_Misso »

Verdun66 wrote:
savatage wrote:Considering the fisher deliberate out of bounds, that was a fkn joke.
Yes...where was the consistency? There were a couple of others where they headed straight for the boundary. Fisher's bounced sideways, and then rolled out. Adelaide's went straight over the line. That's what annoys me.
It more than annoys me :twisted:
Either the umpires realised the Fisher one was wrong.
Or they are just plain cheats.


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Post: # 1230327Post magnifisaint »

savatage wrote:Considering the fisher deliberate out of bounds, that was a fkn joke.
The fkn AFL rules committee is a joke!


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Post: # 1230450Post Devilhead »

Two bounces - caught twice - then handballs straight out of bounds - sure it was outside 50 but we were charging with 2 minutes left on the clock

No guarantee that we would have scored from a resulting free kick but in the end it was the nail in the putrid coffin of some poor offense decisions that should have gone our way

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Post: # 1230466Post St Lenny »

A couple of shocking decisions, but we can only blame ourselves. And what a bunch of ferals they are over there. Why all the booing at the end of the game. Was it cause we kicked a goal? Was it against Adelaide cause they let us come back? Or was it against the umpires? Seriously what a pack of nuff nuffs, they won and still boo. No wonder people hate interstate teams.


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Scollop wrote:two or three times their blokes spun out of tackles or hung onto the footy for way too long...a free kick in Melbourne, but play on in Morontown.

The misses from senior blokes cost us...when the game was close we lost momentum and those misses gave Crows the footy, from the kick in they took it up the other end and goaled. Not only does that sap your energy but it also gives your opponent breathing space and room for concentration lapses. I think Crows had a great 3rd qter, but we were brilliant in the last.

I'm looking forward to seeing Stanley and Simpkin and Saad back, looking forward to the improvement in most of the younger brigade and looking forward to the rest of 2012. All we need to do is capture that frenetic run and flair that we displayed in the last 8 or 9 minutes and play that way for the whole game. We did the same thing in game 1 this year when we tried to kick 3 goals in the last 3 minutes against Port. Be daring, take the game on and don't think about what might go wrong, think about where you want to the ball to go and have the courage and confidence to back your team mates and run to space to offer a target.
it maybe morontown to you but Adelaide has nothing to do with the umpire selection - moron post.


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Post: # 1230530Post ozrulestrace »

Has anyone else noticed another issue being constantly missed by the umpires and not called-the dragging of a player out of a contest and holding them around the shoulders which I believe is "holding the man" and should be played as a free.
It happens almost as the holding the jumper infringements, but for Lenny it seemed he was quite clearly held out of the contest and therefore the infringing player is rewarded as play on is called.


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ozrulestrace wrote:Has anyone else noticed another issue being constantly missed by the umpires and not called-the dragging of a player out of a contest and holding them around the shoulders which I believe is "holding the man" and should be played as a free.
It happens almost as the holding the jumper infringements, but for Lenny it seemed he was quite clearly held out of the contest and therefore the infringing player is rewarded as play on is called.
Noticed they got away with this on Lenny all night, kept holding him out of the contests. The club needs to bring this tothe attention of the AFL and seek a clarification.

Also - what was that "in the back" against Rooey when he tackled a guy standing up and the guy bent over forwards and lifted Rooey off the ground in the process????


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Post: # 1230552Post satchmo »

True Believer wrote: Also - what was that "in the back" against Rooey when he tackled a guy standing up and the guy bent over forwards and lifted Rooey off the ground in the process????

Yeah, that one had me shaking my head too.


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Post: # 1230562Post barks4eva »

The charity goal Armitage scored in the third quarter for a holding the ball decision was an absolute joke!

Cannot blame the umpires!

Riewoldt, Kossie & Milne missing easy shots at goal and then getting whacked with coast to coast goals on the end of it was the difference in the end!

Cost us the game against Richmond and now again a couple of weeks later against Adelaide!


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Post: # 1230570Post Buckets »

barks4eva wrote:The charity goal Armitage scored in the third quarter for a holding the ball decision was an absolute joke!

Cannot blame the umpires!

Riewoldt, Kossie & Milne missing easy shots at goal and then getting whacked with coast to coast goals on the end of it was the difference in the end!

Cost us the game against Richmond and now again a couple of weeks later against Adelaide!
We had one charity goal and that makes it ok?

Or is that because your favourite in Ryan wasn't umpiring so it couldn't have been that bad?

The Fisher deliberate out of bounds cost us a goal, the soft 50 metre against Schneider in the last when he was in the marking contest? The trip on Steven with 2 minutes to go, the push in the back on Milne in the last and the non holding the ball decision against Dangerfield - and that wasn't the only decision like it to be let go - but it's ok we got a charity goal.


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Post: # 1230574Post gringo »

They seem to have that confidence at the moment where they just believe every kick will be a goal and most times are. It's a place that you can't manufacture but when confidence is high like that it's hard to stop. we just don't seem to have that same spark right now


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