Montagna rubbed out for 2
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Montagna rubbed out for 2
Leigh Montagna 2 matches striking J Magner, due to poor record, from @AFL_PKeane
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dragit wrote:Farout, I thought it looked accidental…
Plenty have been asking for him to be dropped will be pleased no doubt.
Well if it is accidental they will challenge as he cant get anymore weeks. And if it accidental and we have smart people in charge he will get off. If he doesnt we either have dumb people helping our club or he is guilty.
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My first reaction was it was accidental. Gonna be a big loss and I'm sure the Hawks will be happy. Who comes in for him? We need a like for like.
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dragit wrote:Selwood cleared, of course…
FFS. Typical of the AFL's special rules policy
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Ledger?Old Mate wrote:My first reaction was it was accidental. Gonna be a big loss and I'm sure the Hawks will be happy. Who comes in for him? We need a like for like.
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bigcarl wrote:dragit wrote:Selwood cleared, of course…
FFS. Typical of the AFL's special rules policy
Have you seen it? It certainly wasnt forceful enough to get weeks but lets go with the special rules policy. It makes sense. Anyway what this has to do with Joey is beyond me.
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I would have thought Sipposs
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Seems logical. Or Polo starts as a midfield rotation and Siposs comes in as sub.SaintSimmo wrote:Ledger?Old Mate wrote:My first reaction was it was accidental. Gonna be a big loss and I'm sure the Hawks will be happy. Who comes in for him? We need a like for like.
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The Montagna one was called an accident on TV. Selwood gets the benefit of the doubt, our bloke doesn't. It's an anti-St Kilda conspiracy Plugger and you know it.plugger66 wrote:bigcarl wrote:dragit wrote:Selwood cleared, of course…
FFS. Typical of the AFL's special rules policy
Have you seen it? It certainly wasnt forceful enough to get weeks but lets go with the special rules policy. It makes sense. Anyway what this has to do with Joey is beyond me.
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Well it's a reference point…plugger66 wrote:Anyway what this has to do with Joey is beyond me.
One is a clear strike off the ball - impact debatable? The retaliation copped 3 weeks
The other was from a wrestle, then Montagna fell onto Magner, did he mean to strike him and open up his face?
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MRP Report:
"Based on the video evidence available and a medical report from the Melbourne Football Club, the incident was assessed as reckless conduct (two points), medium impact (two points) and high contact (two points). This is a total of six activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level Three offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has an existing bad record of one match suspended within the last three years, increasing the penalty by 10 per cent to 247.50 points. He also has 64.06 demerit points carried over from within the last 12 months, increasing the penalty to 311.56 points and a three-match sanction. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 233.67 points and a two-match sanction."
"Based on the video evidence available and a medical report from the Melbourne Football Club, the incident was assessed as reckless conduct (two points), medium impact (two points) and high contact (two points). This is a total of six activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level Three offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has an existing bad record of one match suspended within the last three years, increasing the penalty by 10 per cent to 247.50 points. He also has 64.06 demerit points carried over from within the last 12 months, increasing the penalty to 311.56 points and a three-match sanction. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 233.67 points and a two-match sanction."
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dragit wrote:Well it's a reference point…plugger66 wrote:Anyway what this has to do with Joey is beyond me.
One is a clear strike off the ball - impact debatable? The retaliation copped 3 weeks
The other was from a wrestle, then Montagna fell onto Magner, did he mean to strike him and open up his face?
Well they challenge and win if you are right. Joey certainly has had a few accidents in the last few years. Same as Kosi. Makes you wonder how the same players from our club get picked on.
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It's very disappointing. It looked accidental to me. If the penalty cannot be increased, it is worthy of a challenge.
A replacement - Sipposs for me, as he is such a great kick, which we will need against the Hawks and Carlton the following week (Ledger next option).
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True… though young J. Selwood had a very similar incident last year too, didn't seem to contribute to his judgement for this one.plugger66 wrote:Well they challenge and win if you are right. Joey certainly has had a few accidents in the last few years. Same as Kosi. Makes you wonder how the same players from our club get picked on.
Do you not think that different players get different treatment?
Judd opened up Pav's face with an elbow, like Joey did, remember that one? It was a Brownlow year…
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dragit wrote:True… though young J. Selwood had a very similar incident last year too, didn't seem to contribute to his judgement for this one.plugger66 wrote:Well they challenge and win if you are right. Joey certainly has had a few accidents in the last few years. Same as Kosi. Makes you wonder how the same players from our club get picked on.
Do you not think that different players get different treatment?
Judd opened up Pav's face with an elbow, like Joey did, remember that one? It was a Brownlow year…
Yep should have been suspended but again that has nothing to do with Joey. I may be different to others but I only care about how our players go. Couldnt give a stuff about others unless we play them. As I said he will get off if they prove it was an accident.
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Just about given up on this farce we call the AFL. I love the game, and the club, but this political, money making, sanitized BS that gets spewed out every week is just about enough for me.
Firstly, there is nothing in this incident. Yes, Magner got a scratch on the face, but boo hoo. 2 guys were pushing and shoving at a stoppage, Magner went to ground, Montagna held on and went with him.
Secondly, this crap about taking into account the medical report is getting really boring. Essentially, people are getting less suspension for infringing on tougher opponents (exhibit 1: Simpkin 1 week (stands his ground) vs Ballantyne 3 weeks (drops like a bag of the proverbial) from similar action and force, Exhibit 2: Roo getting hit high vs North Melbourne last year, got up, pushed trainer away, therefore no medical evidence)
Thirdly, lets all remember why Joey has a bad record. He went and slightly bumped Curnow after he injured his shoulder. He was expected to know Curnow was injured.
I'm just about ready to pack it in with the AFL, and put my money and effort into cheering for Sandy.
Firstly, there is nothing in this incident. Yes, Magner got a scratch on the face, but boo hoo. 2 guys were pushing and shoving at a stoppage, Magner went to ground, Montagna held on and went with him.
Secondly, this crap about taking into account the medical report is getting really boring. Essentially, people are getting less suspension for infringing on tougher opponents (exhibit 1: Simpkin 1 week (stands his ground) vs Ballantyne 3 weeks (drops like a bag of the proverbial) from similar action and force, Exhibit 2: Roo getting hit high vs North Melbourne last year, got up, pushed trainer away, therefore no medical evidence)
Thirdly, lets all remember why Joey has a bad record. He went and slightly bumped Curnow after he injured his shoulder. He was expected to know Curnow was injured.
I'm just about ready to pack it in with the AFL, and put my money and effort into cheering for Sandy.
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can someone post a you tube link of the incident please?
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Just said the exact same thing to my wife St Chris. Told her that I wished I didn't love the game so much as the AFL is fu**ked!
Seriously, how can they judge the the impact level from grainy vision. Just because one guy (or girl) goes down and one doesn't , doesn't reveal the level of impact.
As for Monty, Magner pulled him down on top of him. How is that reckless on Monty's part?
The sooner we see the back of Demetriou, Anderson and Gieschen, the sooner we might get a better, fairer game and hopefully people who have a feel for it.
Seriously, how can they judge the the impact level from grainy vision. Just because one guy (or girl) goes down and one doesn't , doesn't reveal the level of impact.
As for Monty, Magner pulled him down on top of him. How is that reckless on Monty's part?
The sooner we see the back of Demetriou, Anderson and Gieschen, the sooner we might get a better, fairer game and hopefully people who have a feel for it.
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