We have no key position players left what do we do!!!!!!!

saint58 · Post: # 1171419Post **saint58** » Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:18pm

We have lost a lot of talls and i feer we may be well underdone in the big body deparment.It will take us a number of years to build up the stocks again.

Why we lost so many young talls is a direct reflection on Ross lyon.I am very greatfull and think he did a great job at the club.But here is the list we have of talls we have lost now so because of him and some not.

Johnson,Cahill,lynch,walsh,gardiner,and possible Zach that is a big chunck of our young brigade.

8856brother · Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:36pm

saint58 wrote:We have lost a lot of talls and i feer we may be well underdone in the big body deparment.It will take us a number of years to build up the stocks again.

Why we lost so many young talls is a direct reflection on Ross lyon.I am very greatfull and think he did a great job at the club.But here is the list we have of talls we have lost now so because of him and some not.

Johnson,Cahill,lynch,walsh,gardiner,and possible Zach that is a big chunck of our young brigade.

Not sure Gardiner is that young! But understand your point.

Kilda · Post: # 1171435Post **Kilda** » Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:40pm

I remember when Plugger walked out on us at the end of 1994 and I thought that was the end of my short-mid term dream of seeing the Saints in a GF and yet we did it just 3 yrs later!

loris · Post: # 1171436Post **loris** » Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:43pm

Kilda wrote:I remember when Plugger walked out on us at the end of 1994 and I thought that was the end of my short-mid term dream of seeing the Saints in a GF and yet we did it just 3 yrs later!

And Stewie Loewe really matured with the responsibility of being the key man up forward when Plugger left.

One door closes............ as the saying goes

saintbrat · Post: # 1171447Post **saintbrat** » Mon 31 Oct 2011 9:58pm

so from this team we have lost? 1 player and the emergencies( plus a retiree who only played this game.)
ST KILDA
B: S.Gilbert Z.Dawson? R.Clarke
HB: B.Goddard S.Fisher D.Polo
C: S.Dempster N.Dal Santo J.Gram
HF: B.Peake N.Riewoldt A.Schneider
F: S.Milne J.Koschitzke J.Steven
FOLL: B.McEvoy C.Jones L.Montagna
I/C: J.Geary M.Gardiner F.Ray J.Blake
EMERG: S.Baker R.Gamble A.Smith
IN: M.Gardiner OUT: D.Armitage (suspension)

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-match- ... z1cM61HR7e

Kilda · Post: # 1171449Post **Kilda** » Mon 31 Oct 2011 10:01pm

Precisely, Loris, precisely.

Stillwaiting · Mon 31 Oct 2011 10:09pm

So who are all talks we have lost. The only one I can think of is Gardi who has hardly played in 2011.

Pwoit · Post: # 1171494Post **Pwoit** » Tue 01 Nov 2011 1:03am

Stillwaiting wrote:So who are all talks we have lost. The only one I can think of is Gardi who has hardly played in 2011.

"Yapper" Milney is still there he hasn't left yet

thejiggingsaint · Tue 01 Nov 2011 1:12am

GOLD!

I say...GOLD!!!

matrix · Post: # 1171519Post **matrix** » Tue 01 Nov 2011 7:05am

NO key position players left???

sure ???

jays · Post: # 1171522Post **jays** » Tue 01 Nov 2011 7:43am

glad dawson wants to leave overrated anyways

BigMart · Post: # 1171630Post **BigMart** » Tue 01 Nov 2011 1:11pm

Stewie Loewe matured???

He was a three time all australian/best and fairest/victorian rep/ej whitten medallist whilst plugger was at StK.....

he did change position in 1995/96 to FF

but the recruiting of Heatley and drafting of Hall which really helped

It could be argued his performannce declined after that period

bobmurray · Post: # 1171643Post **bobmurray** » Tue 01 Nov 2011 1:38pm

Saying we have NO key position players is over the top...

We have a shortage of them....we have too many at 191cm and not enough at 194+cm.

I don't know how many each list should have but what you really want is QUALITY talls on the list to cover the required positions. Hopefully they'll draft a few and the Academy will fine tune them.

The Academy might end up a quality player factory that keeps churning them out, that way Free Agency will have little affect

Moccha · Post: # 1171653Post **Moccha** » Tue 01 Nov 2011 2:15pm

recruit some more

savatage · Post: # 1171654Post **savatage** » Tue 01 Nov 2011 2:17pm

Moccha wrote:recruit some more

Damn you and your logical post!!!

bobmurray · Post: # 1171658Post **bobmurray** » Tue 01 Nov 2011 2:29pm

Moccha wrote:recruit some more

Con Gorozidis · Tue 01 Nov 2011 4:59pm

We definitely have a shortage of KPPs in the short to medium term. Roo and Kosi are getting on in years and I now see Kosi as a 2nd ruckmen. Not agile enough to play KPP.

Im disappointed about Tommy Walsh as are many.

I think we now really depend on Stanley and Simpkin stepping up a gear in the short term. Simpkin is listed as 91kg so is not far off being a decent size for a FB.

On a side not - Siposs was very young when we drafted him. Has he grown any taller?

Dr Spaceman · Tue 01 Nov 2011 5:05pm

Maybe we'll just have to adopt this tactic

saintsRrising · Tue 01 Nov 2011 5:28pm

It is more case of what do me do if we have injuries and or suspension to talls...

Dempster Gilbert Gwilt (or Simpkin)

Cripps Fisher Goddard

Joey Hayes Ray

Siposs Riewoldt Schneider

Milne Kosi/Stanley Saad

Ben

Dal

Steven

Int: From Peake, Armo, Raph, Geary Gram, Polo

LondonSaint · Wed 02 Nov 2011 10:20pm

We lost 4
- Walsh - a potential good player.. but will he turn into a gun forward? unsure.
- Cahill - too skinny, injury prone and bad attitude?
- Johnson - not big enough to be key position, or good enough?
- Lynch - slow.. not big enough, doesn't have presence.. more a flanker type

We still have 4
- Stanley (forward) - tall, fast. need to build body strength and football smart
- Simpkin (back) - slight under sized full back, skilled, good at rebounding.
- Ferguson (back) - tall, fast and atheletic CHB
- Archer (forward) - big monster forward.. aggressive.. and has presence.

As you see, all we did was to let go of the less likely types.. (Ok, Walsh was a tough one) we should be able to pick up another 2-3 in the national and rookie drafts..

bobmurray · Wed 02 Nov 2011 10:44pm

LondonSaint wrote:We lost 4
- Walsh - a potential good player.. but will he turn into a gun forward? unsure.
- Cahill - too skinny, injury prone and bad attitude?
- Johnson - not big enough to be key position, or good enough?
- Lynch - slow.. not big enough, doesn't have presence.. more a flanker type

We still have 4
- Stanley (forward) - tall, fast. need to build body strength and football smart
- Simpkin (back) - slight under sized full back, skilled, good at rebounding.
- Ferguson (back) - tall, fast and atheletic CHB
- Archer (forward) - big monster forward.. aggressive.. and has presence.

As you see, all we did was to let go of the less likely types.. (Ok, Walsh was a tough one) we should be able to pick up another 2-3 in the national and rookie drafts..

We lost Gardiner as well

ace · Post: # 1172309Post **ace** » Wed 02 Nov 2011 11:25pm

BigMart wrote:Stewie Loewe matured???

He was a three time all australian/best and fairest/victorian rep/ej whitten medallist whilst plugger was at StK.....

he did change position in 1995/96 to FF

but the recruiting of Heatley and drafting of Hall which really helped

It could be argued his performannce declined after that period

Stewie Loewe's performance in that grand final was so mature it was close to dead.
Blight had pitiful Pitman gun him down.

We have no key position players left what do we do!!!!!!!

We have no key position players left what do we do!!!!!!!

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