We have to cut the cancer out (Goddard and Roo)

[Cairnsman]

Anyone got any ideas?

I'll start. Goddard. Enough said. Goodnight

[Cairnsman]

Something is up with Roo too.

[BakesFan]

Lenny for Captain next season!

[Pwoit]

Something is up with Roo too.

Called concusion

[AnythingsPossibleSaints]

Something is up with Roo too.

Called concusion

Has he had it all year?

[Cairnsman]

Interesting to listen to Caro on the insiders talking about the woes at Port Adelaide. She's saying that there are huge politics internally and that it revolves around a massive divide between the old players such as the Corne brothers and Brogan etc and the new kids coming up. She said the problem had been described as cancer and that Primus needs to take charge of it soon.

Sounds familiar to me and very similar to what Wakelin said a few weeks ago in his article that talked about the Pies successive defeats in 2002 and 2003.

Whether we like it or not the older players have to know that their opportunity has passed them by unless they leave then they will never be in a premiership team. At the moment those players are playing for themselves. They will still look ok on the stats sheet but they certainly have resigned the fact that our window is shut. Ross please please please be progressive and cut out the cancer sooner than later.

[HardSaint]

Reckon it's pretty glaring that both Roo and BJ are the most broken by the GF losses
The question is whether they can ever fully get it back together

[Cairnsman]

Reckon it's pretty glaring that both Roo and BJ are the most broken by the GF losses
The question is whether they can ever fully get it back together

Yep. It stands to reason to. Imagine if you were a player in your prime and in the top 10 or so best AFL players and realising that you probably have missed your opportunity to win a premiership. And players like Roo and BJ will be able to make the stats sheet look good but essentially they will now be playing for themselves.

The Challenge for Ross is to sell them the belief that they can still pinch one in the next couple of years. Massive task.

[Junction Oval]

Stars (mature ones) have the ability to "re-load."

If we don't support them, we will be cutting the heart out of St Kilda.

[Johnny Member]

It's staggering to think that two of the biggest 'leaders' of the club would need to be convinced to give 100%.

They should be the ones convincing everyone else. That's why they're leaders for f***'s sake!

[ralphsmith]

It's staggering to think that two of the biggest 'leaders' of the club would need to be convinced to give 100%.

They should be the ones convincing everyone else. That's why they're leaders for f***'s sake!

That's why Lenny is , was the only true leader.

He would never need convincing.

Mentally fragile leaders cause problems.

[matrix]

unreal

[asiu]

minds like steel traps around here.




god give me patience.

[MCG-Unit]

Mind-boggling

[Cairnsman]

minds like steel traps around here.




god give me patience.

which one?

[plugger66]

Disgraceful thread.

[santazzi]

Anyone got any ideas?

I'll start. Goddard. Enough said. Goodnight

Interesting!

I will throw Gilbert in the mix and I will express an opinion with a pseudo-psychologist's hat on.

Over the last few weeks, watching the games on TV, I have been developing a theory about our demise. The theory involves three players. The two you mentioned: Roo and BJ and Gilbert.

Here is my theory:

1. Roo has never forgiven Gilbo. There is something simmering there eating away at both, but Gilbo in particular. These two in my opinion cannot be usefully engaged in the same team. Solution: Trade one out of the team long term, and in the short term the one awfully out of form to the Zebs

2. Given Roo's occupation with what ever and his limited display of leadership on-field,I think BJ feels entitled to take over the captaincy. He probably has support from the playing group. Solution: Make BJ captain. He will be one sooner than later anyway

Well this is my reading of the situation between these guys..........

[St Igmata]

Anyone got any ideas?

I'll start. Goddard. Enough said. Goodnight

Interesting!

I will throw Gilbert in the mix and I will express an opinion with a pseudo-psychologist's hat on.

Over the last few weeks, watching the games on TV, I have been developing a theory about our demise. The theory involves three players. The two you mentioned: Roo and BJ and Gilbert.

Here is my theory:

1. Roo has never forgiven Gilbo. There is something simmering there eating away at both, but Gilbo in particular. These two in my opinion cannot be usefully engaged in the same team. Solution: Trade one out of the team long term, and in the short term the one awfully out of form to the Zebs

2. Given Roo's occupation with what ever and his limited display of leadership on-field,I think BJ feels entitled to take over the captaincy. He probably has support from the playing group. Solution: Make BJ captain. He will be one sooner than later anyway

Well this is my reading of the situation between these guys..........

You're driving wedges all over the place.

[Cairnsman]

Disgraceful thread.

Why so?

[santazzi]

Anyone got any ideas?

I'll start. Goddard. Enough said. Goodnight

Interesting!

I will throw Gilbert in the mix and I will express an opinion with a pseudo-psychologist's hat on.

Over the last few weeks, watching the games on TV, I have been developing a theory about our demise. The theory involves three players. The two you mentioned: Roo and BJ and Gilbert.

Here is my theory:

1. Roo has never forgiven Gilbo. There is something simmering there eating away at both, but Gilbo in particular. These two in my opinion cannot be usefully engaged in the same team. Solution: Trade one out of the team long term, and in the short term the one awfully out of form to the Zebs

2. Given Roo's occupation with what ever and his limited display of leadership on-field,I think BJ feels entitled to take over the captaincy. He probably has support from the playing group. Solution: Make BJ captain. He will be one sooner than later anyway

Well this is my reading of the situation between these guys..........

You're driving wedges all over the place.

Not so. Just searching for an explanation.

[plugger66]

Disgraceful thread.

Why so?

Because it is crap. Can you understand that.l

[Dal_Santos_Gal]

FACT: We are falling in a heap, all off field drama's mostly because of that slag KD and losing 2 premierships has finally taken its toll....

Yeah yeah I know my glass is half empty but I am not going to set myself up for heartache when I know we are absolutely no chance in 2011.
Time for Ross to get rid of the non believers at seasons end, blood the kids and set themselves up for 2012 and beyond.

Don't let it ruin your year, make sure you go and enjoy some time with your family's, cherish the moments with your kids / grand kids. !!!!

[satchmo]

Disgraceful thread.

Why so?

Because it is crap. Can you understand that.l

Feels dirty agreeing with plugger, but he's right.

Disgraceful thread indeed.

[Cairnsman]

Disgraceful thread.

Why so?

Because it is crap. Can you understand that.l

I disagree. The reality for Roo and BJ would be really reaching the deepest and darkest corners of their minds by now if it hadn't already done sooner and for so many reasons that don't need to be regurgitated. Surely our only chance of a premiership with Roo and BJ in the team will only come if some of the young brigade can come up within a year or two. Interesting time 2011 will be for so many reasons. The challenge for the club is not to revert to type and sack the coach and then start eating each other from the inside out.

[plugger66]

Disgraceful thread.

Why so?

Because it is crap. Can you understand that.l

Feels dirty agreeing with plugger, but he's right.

Disgraceful thread indeed.

Surely it isnt that bad.