Okay, to make this team you had to come directly from a Brighton based club. The list shows what a fantastic nursery that part of Melbourne has been and perhaps demonstrates that this area is true Saints heartland.
As with other line ups feedback most welcome and I will finalize the line up after a few weeks in case I have missed anyone.
Check out the ruck stocks here, Big Carl, then Pup Sarau, then the RSPCA's friend Douggie Booth!
All clubs were/are in and around the Brighton area... and had to have the Brighton tag in their name. A few of these clubs have fallen over but The Vampires are still going around and immensely proud of their contribution to the St.Kilda ranks.
The line up doesn't have a coach yet... anyone coached the Saints from Brighton? If we can't dig one out then we'll settle for one of the line up that has gone on to a credentialled coaching career.
Enjoy!
BACKS
Keith Miller, 1940 – 1942, 1946, (50), Brighton
Harry LEVER, 1905 – 1915, (218), Brighton
David WITTY, 1986 – 87, (24), Old Brighton Grammarians,
HALF BACKS
Gordon DANGERFIELD, 1905 – 1919, (159), Brighton
Harold MATTTHEWS, 1925 – 1932, (136), Brighton
Mordecai BROMBERG, 1974 – 1981, (34), East Brighton
CENTRES
Jeffrey MORAN, 1965 – 1974, (155), East Brighton
Geoff FIDLER, 1980 – 1984, (46), East Brighton
Percy ELLIN, 1905 – 1910, (70), East Brighton
HALF FORWARDS
Claude CLOUGH, 1900 – 1901, (23), Brighton Grammar
Geoff TURNER, 1953, (11), Brighton
Horace BANNISTER, 1922 – 1923, (17), Brighton
FORWARDS
Doug BOOTH, 1976 – 1978 and 1982, (24), East Brighton
John BENNETT, 1980 – 1983 and 1985 – 1986, (35), East Brighton
Jeff SARAU, 1973 – 1983, (119), East Brighton
RUCK
Carl DITTERICH, 1963 – 1972 and 1976 – 1978, (203), East Brighton
FOLLOWERS
Dennis BARTLEY, 1964 -1965, (10), East Brighton
Walter STEWART, 1898 and 1900, (10), Brighton (1899)
INTERCHANGE
Peter BURNS, 1959 – 1960, (4), East Brighton
David SHEPHERD, 1976 – 1977, (4), Brighton Grammar
Ben HAIR, 1919, (6), Brighton Juniors
Peter RUMNEY, 1968 – 1969, (5), East Brighton
APOLOGIES
Herbert LOUCH, 1898, (1), East Brighton
Allan Mc DONALD, 1965, (2), East Brighton
Jack PURSE, 1898, (1), Brighton (went on to play 109 games for Melbourne)
Gordon ROBINSON, 1911, (1), Brighton
Keith STOREY, 1930, (5), Brighton
Fred TURNBULL, 1918, (1), Brighton
Geoff WEBER, 1934, (1), Brighton
Robert CAMPBELL, 1900, (1), Brighton Beach
William CANNON, 1975, (1), Brighton Grammar
Ron ELLIS, 1943, (2), Brighton
Robert CROMIE, 1908, (1), Brighton
COACH: as yet not named
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Try the encyclopedia of league footballers via Saints Central.
Type Brighton as a keyword.
BALME, GERALD ARCHIBALD (STK.) 1902-06 and 1915, 91 games, 2 goals.
BANNISTER, HORACE P. (STK. AND RICH.) St Kilda 1922-23, 17 games, 4 goals. Richmond 1924, 1 game, 0 goals.
BARTLEY, DENNIS J. (STK.) 1964-65, 10 games, 7 goals.
BENNETT, JOHN J. (STK. AND FOOT.) St Kilda 1980-83 and 1985-86, 35 games, 41 goals. Footscray 1984, 3 games, 8 goals.
BOOTH, DOUG (STK.) 1976-78 and 1982, 24 games, 4 goals.
BRADY, PETER (STK.) 1898-99, 8 games, 3 goals.
BROMBERG, MORDECAI (STK.) 1978-81, 34 games, 11 goals.
BULMER, EDWARD C. (STK.) 1920, 2 games, 0 goals.
BURNS, PETER (STK.) 1959-60, 4 games, 2 goals.
CAMPBELL, ROBERT A. (STK.) 1900, 1 game, 0 goals.
CANNON, WILLIAM P. BILL (STK.) 1975, 1 game 0 goals.
CLOUGH, CLAUDE L. (STK.) 1900-01, 23 games, 8 goals.
CROMIE, ROBERT (STK.) 1908, 1 game, 0 goals.
DANGERFIELD, GORDON (STK.) 1905-1919, 159 games, 16 goals.
DAWSON, ARTIE (STK.) 1918-19 and 1921 20 games, 9 goals.
DITTERICH, CARL R. (STK. AND MELB.) St Kilda 1963-72 and 1976-78, 203 games, 156 goals. Melbourne 1973-75 and 1979-80, 82 games, 43 goals.
ELLIN, PERCY (STK. AND RICH.) St Kilda 1905-10, 70 games, 19 goals. Richmond 1910, 1 game, 0 goals.
ELLIS, RON (STK.) 1943, 2 games, 0 goals.
FIDLER, GEOFFREY B. (STK.) 1980-1984, 46 games, 0 goals.
FOX, LINDSAY (STK.) 1959-61 20 games, 3 goals.
GOROZIDIS, CON A. (STK. AND FOOT.) St Kilda 1980-82, 29 games, 64 goals. Footscray 1983, 5 games, 10 goals.
GRACE, MICK (FITZ., CARL. AND STK.) Fitzroy 1897-1900, 65 games, 55 goals. Carlton 1903-07, 86 games, 133 goals. St Kilda 1908, 16 games, 26 goals.
GRAHAM, WALLY D. (STK.) 1911, 8 games, 0 goals.
HAIR, BEN (SOUTH AND STK.) South Melbourne 1914-15 and 1917-18, 43 games, 3 goals. St Kilda 1919, 6 games, 3 goals.
HARPER, RAY A. (STK., CARL. AND NORTH) St Kilda 1919-23, 35 games, 0 goals. Carlton 1924, 2 games, 0 goals. North Melbourne 1925, 2 games 0 goals.
HARTNETT, PAT (STK.) 1930 and 1934-37, 66 games, 58 goals.
HATTAM, HORACE L. 'HARRY' (STK.) 1910-15, 84 games, 2 goals.
HENDER, ALLAN (STK.) 1934-38, 69 games, 41 goals.
HINDSON, CLARRIE M. (STK.) 1930-36, 90 games, 0 goals.
HOWELL, AUGUSTUS 'GUS' (STK. AND FOOT.) St Kilda 1921, 1 game, 0 goals. Footscray 1926, 6 games, 2 goals.
LEVER, HARRY H. (STK.) 1905-15, 1918-19, 1921-22, 218 games, 6 goals.
LOUCH, HERBERT (STK.) 1898, 1 game, 0 goals.
MATTHEWS, HAROLD TURNER (STK.) 1925-32, 136 games, 0 goals.
MCDONALD, ALLAN (STK.) 1965, 2 games, 0 goals.
MEEHAN, TOM (STK. AND FITZ.) St Kilda 1947-52, 73 games, 3 goals. Fitzroy 1953-54, 19 games, 0 goals.
MILLER, KEITH R. (STK.) 1940-42, 1946, 50 games, 42 goals.
MORAN, JEFFREY T. (STK.) 1965-74, 155 games, 63 goals.
PEARSON, IAN (STK. AND HAW.) St Kilda 1953-54, 9 games, 2 goals. Hawthorn 1956, 5 games, 2 goals.
PETERSON, REG L. (ESS. AND STK.) Essendon 1931-32 20 games, 8 goals. St Kilda 1933, 1 game, 1 goal.
PLOWMAN, HUGH M. (STK.) 1910-12, 26 games, 1 goal.
PURSE, JACK L. (STK. AND MELB.) St Kilda 1898, 1 game, 0 goals. Melbourne 1900-06, 109 games, 12 goals.
READ, JIM L. (STK.) 1962-67, 76 games, 9 goals.
ROBERTSON, FRANK (STK.) 1905, 1 game, 0 goals.
ROBINSON, GORDON (STK.) 1911, 1 game, 0 goals.
RUMNEY, PETER R. (STK.) 1968-69, 5 games, 0 goals.
SARAU, JEFF R. 'PUP' (STK.) 1973-83, 226 games, 119 goals.
SCOTT, ALFRED (STK.) 1900-01, 14 games, 4 goals.
SHEPHERD, DAVID (STK.) 1976-77, 4 games, 1 goal.
SPILKER, GEORGE (STK.) 1899-1901, 22 games, 1 goal.
STEWART, WALTER P. (STK. AND GEEL.) St Kilda 1898 and 1900, 10 games, 1 goal. Geelong 1905, 2 games, 0 goals.
STOREY, KEITH W. (STK.) 1930, 5 games, 0 goals.
TODD, JACK H. (STK. AND SOUTH) St Kilda 1898, 1 game, 0 goals. South Melbourne 1903, 7 games, 0 goals.
TURNBULL, FRED P.N. (STK.) 1918, 1 game, 0 goals.
TURNER, GEOFF (STK.) 1953, 11 games, 1 goal.
WALSH, BRIAN (STK.) 1956-64, 131 games, 0 goals.
WEBER, GEOFF (STK.) 1934, 1 game, 0 goals.
WILLIAMSON, COLIN M. (STK.) 1937-46, 165 games, 44 goals.
WITTEY, DAVID (STK. AND SYD.) 1986-87, 24 games, 0 goals. Sydney 1990, 1 game, 0 goals.
YOUNG, ALEX (STK) 1899, 1 game 0 goals.
YOUNG, WILLIAM C. (STK.) 1909, 2 games, 2 goals.
Type Brighton as a keyword.
BALME, GERALD ARCHIBALD (STK.) 1902-06 and 1915, 91 games, 2 goals.
BANNISTER, HORACE P. (STK. AND RICH.) St Kilda 1922-23, 17 games, 4 goals. Richmond 1924, 1 game, 0 goals.
BARTLEY, DENNIS J. (STK.) 1964-65, 10 games, 7 goals.
BENNETT, JOHN J. (STK. AND FOOT.) St Kilda 1980-83 and 1985-86, 35 games, 41 goals. Footscray 1984, 3 games, 8 goals.
BOOTH, DOUG (STK.) 1976-78 and 1982, 24 games, 4 goals.
BRADY, PETER (STK.) 1898-99, 8 games, 3 goals.
BROMBERG, MORDECAI (STK.) 1978-81, 34 games, 11 goals.
BULMER, EDWARD C. (STK.) 1920, 2 games, 0 goals.
BURNS, PETER (STK.) 1959-60, 4 games, 2 goals.
CAMPBELL, ROBERT A. (STK.) 1900, 1 game, 0 goals.
CANNON, WILLIAM P. BILL (STK.) 1975, 1 game 0 goals.
CLOUGH, CLAUDE L. (STK.) 1900-01, 23 games, 8 goals.
CROMIE, ROBERT (STK.) 1908, 1 game, 0 goals.
DANGERFIELD, GORDON (STK.) 1905-1919, 159 games, 16 goals.
DAWSON, ARTIE (STK.) 1918-19 and 1921 20 games, 9 goals.
DITTERICH, CARL R. (STK. AND MELB.) St Kilda 1963-72 and 1976-78, 203 games, 156 goals. Melbourne 1973-75 and 1979-80, 82 games, 43 goals.
ELLIN, PERCY (STK. AND RICH.) St Kilda 1905-10, 70 games, 19 goals. Richmond 1910, 1 game, 0 goals.
ELLIS, RON (STK.) 1943, 2 games, 0 goals.
FIDLER, GEOFFREY B. (STK.) 1980-1984, 46 games, 0 goals.
FOX, LINDSAY (STK.) 1959-61 20 games, 3 goals.
GOROZIDIS, CON A. (STK. AND FOOT.) St Kilda 1980-82, 29 games, 64 goals. Footscray 1983, 5 games, 10 goals.
GRACE, MICK (FITZ., CARL. AND STK.) Fitzroy 1897-1900, 65 games, 55 goals. Carlton 1903-07, 86 games, 133 goals. St Kilda 1908, 16 games, 26 goals.
GRAHAM, WALLY D. (STK.) 1911, 8 games, 0 goals.
HAIR, BEN (SOUTH AND STK.) South Melbourne 1914-15 and 1917-18, 43 games, 3 goals. St Kilda 1919, 6 games, 3 goals.
HARPER, RAY A. (STK., CARL. AND NORTH) St Kilda 1919-23, 35 games, 0 goals. Carlton 1924, 2 games, 0 goals. North Melbourne 1925, 2 games 0 goals.
HARTNETT, PAT (STK.) 1930 and 1934-37, 66 games, 58 goals.
HATTAM, HORACE L. 'HARRY' (STK.) 1910-15, 84 games, 2 goals.
HENDER, ALLAN (STK.) 1934-38, 69 games, 41 goals.
HINDSON, CLARRIE M. (STK.) 1930-36, 90 games, 0 goals.
HOWELL, AUGUSTUS 'GUS' (STK. AND FOOT.) St Kilda 1921, 1 game, 0 goals. Footscray 1926, 6 games, 2 goals.
LEVER, HARRY H. (STK.) 1905-15, 1918-19, 1921-22, 218 games, 6 goals.
LOUCH, HERBERT (STK.) 1898, 1 game, 0 goals.
MATTHEWS, HAROLD TURNER (STK.) 1925-32, 136 games, 0 goals.
MCDONALD, ALLAN (STK.) 1965, 2 games, 0 goals.
MEEHAN, TOM (STK. AND FITZ.) St Kilda 1947-52, 73 games, 3 goals. Fitzroy 1953-54, 19 games, 0 goals.
MILLER, KEITH R. (STK.) 1940-42, 1946, 50 games, 42 goals.
MORAN, JEFFREY T. (STK.) 1965-74, 155 games, 63 goals.
PEARSON, IAN (STK. AND HAW.) St Kilda 1953-54, 9 games, 2 goals. Hawthorn 1956, 5 games, 2 goals.
PETERSON, REG L. (ESS. AND STK.) Essendon 1931-32 20 games, 8 goals. St Kilda 1933, 1 game, 1 goal.
PLOWMAN, HUGH M. (STK.) 1910-12, 26 games, 1 goal.
PURSE, JACK L. (STK. AND MELB.) St Kilda 1898, 1 game, 0 goals. Melbourne 1900-06, 109 games, 12 goals.
READ, JIM L. (STK.) 1962-67, 76 games, 9 goals.
ROBERTSON, FRANK (STK.) 1905, 1 game, 0 goals.
ROBINSON, GORDON (STK.) 1911, 1 game, 0 goals.
RUMNEY, PETER R. (STK.) 1968-69, 5 games, 0 goals.
SARAU, JEFF R. 'PUP' (STK.) 1973-83, 226 games, 119 goals.
SCOTT, ALFRED (STK.) 1900-01, 14 games, 4 goals.
SHEPHERD, DAVID (STK.) 1976-77, 4 games, 1 goal.
SPILKER, GEORGE (STK.) 1899-1901, 22 games, 1 goal.
STEWART, WALTER P. (STK. AND GEEL.) St Kilda 1898 and 1900, 10 games, 1 goal. Geelong 1905, 2 games, 0 goals.
STOREY, KEITH W. (STK.) 1930, 5 games, 0 goals.
TODD, JACK H. (STK. AND SOUTH) St Kilda 1898, 1 game, 0 goals. South Melbourne 1903, 7 games, 0 goals.
TURNBULL, FRED P.N. (STK.) 1918, 1 game, 0 goals.
TURNER, GEOFF (STK.) 1953, 11 games, 1 goal.
WALSH, BRIAN (STK.) 1956-64, 131 games, 0 goals.
WEBER, GEOFF (STK.) 1934, 1 game, 0 goals.
WILLIAMSON, COLIN M. (STK.) 1937-46, 165 games, 44 goals.
WITTEY, DAVID (STK. AND SYD.) 1986-87, 24 games, 0 goals. Sydney 1990, 1 game, 0 goals.
YOUNG, ALEX (STK) 1899, 1 game 0 goals.
YOUNG, WILLIAM C. (STK.) 1909, 2 games, 2 goals.
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Nice work Kosi. It is starting to look like a great line up with these additions.
I had a more old fashioned approach to putting this one together and casually thumbed my way through a number of different books. Some people like golf, others reading, other scoring cricket.. I like doing it that way but this is a great search tip!
There are a few amongst that lot that will make this side no doubt. I'll do some background check their credentials and then run with these.
Again, side has been chosen to honour players in their (or closest to) their original positions. Hopefully this mix will give it a centreman, Geoff Fidler being out of position here. He did get a couple of runs on the ball but by my recollection was thrown around a little and nestled in down back a lot more successfully.
Will update throughout the week. Hopefully we can get a few Brightonians to give us some background on these, especially some of the pre-50's players. What already strikes me is the number of players that had less than five starts. Perhaps an indication that the Brighton area was indeed a most favoured nursery.
thanks again and enjoy
I had a more old fashioned approach to putting this one together and casually thumbed my way through a number of different books. Some people like golf, others reading, other scoring cricket.. I like doing it that way but this is a great search tip!
There are a few amongst that lot that will make this side no doubt. I'll do some background check their credentials and then run with these.
Again, side has been chosen to honour players in their (or closest to) their original positions. Hopefully this mix will give it a centreman, Geoff Fidler being out of position here. He did get a couple of runs on the ball but by my recollection was thrown around a little and nestled in down back a lot more successfully.
Will update throughout the week. Hopefully we can get a few Brightonians to give us some background on these, especially some of the pre-50's players. What already strikes me is the number of players that had less than five starts. Perhaps an indication that the Brighton area was indeed a most favoured nursery.
thanks again and enjoy
Great post!!
Sets me off down memory lane.
Have just realised how many great players who did not reach 100 games. For example, Pat hartnett (66) and Clarrie Hindson (90) whom I saw play and who were stars every week. Others like Ditterich, Sarau stand out like beacons by todays standards in terms of total games.
Sets me off down memory lane.
Have just realised how many great players who did not reach 100 games. For example, Pat hartnett (66) and Clarrie Hindson (90) whom I saw play and who were stars every week. Others like Ditterich, Sarau stand out like beacons by todays standards in terms of total games.
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Mark Sarau?Duggie1 wrote:Great post!!
Sets me off down memory lane.
Have just realised how many great players who did not reach 100 games. For example, Pat hartnett (66) and Clarrie Hindson (90) whom I saw play and who were stars every week. Others like Ditterich, Sarau stand out like beacons by todays standards in terms of total games.
Checked these last night and will fully reference them this afternoon at some stage. While most indeed were connected to Brighton clubs, many actually went there after their days at St.Kilda, without having come from Brighton in the first place, so they won't make the line up. I'll point these out as I reference. There are a few gems though, enough to strengthen the line up and even one that went on to coach Brighton to a flag.kosifantutti23 wrote:Try the encyclopedia of league footballers via Saints Central.
Type Brighton as a keyword.
BALME, GERALD ARCHIBALD (STK.) 1902-06 and 1915, 91 games, 2 goals.
BANNISTER, HORACE P. (STK. AND RICH.) St Kilda 1922-23, 17 games, 4 goals. Richmond 1924, 1 game, 0 goals.
BARTLEY, DENNIS J. (STK.) 1964-65, 10 games, 7 goals.
BENNETT, JOHN J. (STK. AND FOOT.) St Kilda 1980-83 and 1985-86, 35 games, 41 goals. Footscray 1984, 3 games, 8 goals.
BOOTH, DOUG (STK.) 1976-78 and 1982, 24 games, 4 goals.
BRADY, PETER (STK.) 1898-99, 8 games, 3 goals.
BROMBERG, MORDECAI (STK.) 1978-81, 34 games, 11 goals.
BULMER, EDWARD C. (STK.) 1920, 2 games, 0 goals.
BURNS, PETER (STK.) 1959-60, 4 games, 2 goals.
CAMPBELL, ROBERT A. (STK.) 1900, 1 game, 0 goals.
CANNON, WILLIAM P. BILL (STK.) 1975, 1 game 0 goals.
CLOUGH, CLAUDE L. (STK.) 1900-01, 23 games, 8 goals.
CROMIE, ROBERT (STK.) 1908, 1 game, 0 goals.
DANGERFIELD, GORDON (STK.) 1905-1919, 159 games, 16 goals.
DAWSON, ARTIE (STK.) 1918-19 and 1921 20 games, 9 goals.
DITTERICH, CARL R. (STK. AND MELB.) St Kilda 1963-72 and 1976-78, 203 games, 156 goals. Melbourne 1973-75 and 1979-80, 82 games, 43 goals.
ELLIN, PERCY (STK. AND RICH.) St Kilda 1905-10, 70 games, 19 goals. Richmond 1910, 1 game, 0 goals.
ELLIS, RON (STK.) 1943, 2 games, 0 goals.
FIDLER, GEOFFREY B. (STK.) 1980-1984, 46 games, 0 goals.
FOX, LINDSAY (STK.) 1959-61 20 games, 3 goals.
GOROZIDIS, CON A. (STK. AND FOOT.) St Kilda 1980-82, 29 games, 64 goals. Footscray 1983, 5 games, 10 goals.
GRACE, MICK (FITZ., CARL. AND STK.) Fitzroy 1897-1900, 65 games, 55 goals. Carlton 1903-07, 86 games, 133 goals. St Kilda 1908, 16 games, 26 goals.
GRAHAM, WALLY D. (STK.) 1911, 8 games, 0 goals.
HAIR, BEN (SOUTH AND STK.) South Melbourne 1914-15 and 1917-18, 43 games, 3 goals. St Kilda 1919, 6 games, 3 goals.
HARPER, RAY A. (STK., CARL. AND NORTH) St Kilda 1919-23, 35 games, 0 goals. Carlton 1924, 2 games, 0 goals. North Melbourne 1925, 2 games 0 goals.
HARTNETT, PAT (STK.) 1930 and 1934-37, 66 games, 58 goals.
HATTAM, HORACE L. 'HARRY' (STK.) 1910-15, 84 games, 2 goals.
HENDER, ALLAN (STK.) 1934-38, 69 games, 41 goals.
HINDSON, CLARRIE M. (STK.) 1930-36, 90 games, 0 goals.
HOWELL, AUGUSTUS 'GUS' (STK. AND FOOT.) St Kilda 1921, 1 game, 0 goals. Footscray 1926, 6 games, 2 goals.
LEVER, HARRY H. (STK.) 1905-15, 1918-19, 1921-22, 218 games, 6 goals.
LOUCH, HERBERT (STK.) 1898, 1 game, 0 goals.
MATTHEWS, HAROLD TURNER (STK.) 1925-32, 136 games, 0 goals.
MCDONALD, ALLAN (STK.) 1965, 2 games, 0 goals.
MEEHAN, TOM (STK. AND FITZ.) St Kilda 1947-52, 73 games, 3 goals. Fitzroy 1953-54, 19 games, 0 goals.
MILLER, KEITH R. (STK.) 1940-42, 1946, 50 games, 42 goals.
MORAN, JEFFREY T. (STK.) 1965-74, 155 games, 63 goals.
PEARSON, IAN (STK. AND HAW.) St Kilda 1953-54, 9 games, 2 goals. Hawthorn 1956, 5 games, 2 goals.
PETERSON, REG L. (ESS. AND STK.) Essendon 1931-32 20 games, 8 goals. St Kilda 1933, 1 game, 1 goal.
PLOWMAN, HUGH M. (STK.) 1910-12, 26 games, 1 goal.
PURSE, JACK L. (STK. AND MELB.) St Kilda 1898, 1 game, 0 goals. Melbourne 1900-06, 109 games, 12 goals.
READ, JIM L. (STK.) 1962-67, 76 games, 9 goals.
ROBERTSON, FRANK (STK.) 1905, 1 game, 0 goals.
ROBINSON, GORDON (STK.) 1911, 1 game, 0 goals.
RUMNEY, PETER R. (STK.) 1968-69, 5 games, 0 goals.
SARAU, JEFF R. 'PUP' (STK.) 1973-83, 226 games, 119 goals.
SCOTT, ALFRED (STK.) 1900-01, 14 games, 4 goals.
SHEPHERD, DAVID (STK.) 1976-77, 4 games, 1 goal.
SPILKER, GEORGE (STK.) 1899-1901, 22 games, 1 goal.
STEWART, WALTER P. (STK. AND GEEL.) St Kilda 1898 and 1900, 10 games, 1 goal. Geelong 1905, 2 games, 0 goals.
STOREY, KEITH W. (STK.) 1930, 5 games, 0 goals.
TODD, JACK H. (STK. AND SOUTH) St Kilda 1898, 1 game, 0 goals. South Melbourne 1903, 7 games, 0 goals.
TURNBULL, FRED P.N. (STK.) 1918, 1 game, 0 goals.
TURNER, GEOFF (STK.) 1953, 11 games, 1 goal.
WALSH, BRIAN (STK.) 1956-64, 131 games, 0 goals.
WEBER, GEOFF (STK.) 1934, 1 game, 0 goals.
WILLIAMSON, COLIN M. (STK.) 1937-46, 165 games, 44 goals.
WITTEY, DAVID (STK. AND SYD.) 1986-87, 24 games, 0 goals. Sydney 1990, 1 game, 0 goals.
YOUNG, ALEX (STK) 1899, 1 game 0 goals.
YOUNG, WILLIAM C. (STK.) 1909, 2 games, 2 goals.
Maybe a trivia question for those interested until I get time to update here.
Thanks again for the search tip Kosi, it prompted some very handy, fascinating and nostalgic reading.
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Brighton's Best... Final Line Up
Again, players picked as close to their credentialled positions as possible. Had to come directly from Brighton to the Saints to be eligible. It's a mighty team and yes Douggie, you made the line up after all!
BACKS
Keith MILLER, 1940 – 1942, 1946, (50), Brighton
Harry LEVER, 1905 – 1915, (218), Brighton
Gerald BALME, 1902 – 06, (91), Brighton Grammar
HALF BACKS
Gordon DANGERFIELD, 1905 – 1919, (159), Brighton
Harold MATTTHEWS, 1925 – 1932, (136), Brighton
Clarrie HINDSON, 1930 – 36, (90), Brighton Vale Amateurs
CENTRES
Jeffrey MORAN, 1965 – 1974, (155), East Brighton
Geoff FIDLER, 1980 – 1984, (46), East Brighton
Percy ELLIN, 1905 – 1910, (70), East Brighton
HALF FORWARDS
Claude CLOUGH, 1900 – 1901, (23), Brighton Grammar
Artie DAWSON, 1918 -1919 & 1921, (20), Brighton
Horace BANNISTER, 1922 – 1923, (17), Brighton
FORWARDS
Doug BOOTH, 1976 – 1978 and 1982, (24), East Brighton
John BENNETT, 1980 – 1983 and 1985 – 1986, (35), East Brighton
Jeff SARAU, 1973 – 1983, (119), East Brighton
RUCK
Carl DITTERICH, 1963 – 1972 and 1976 – 1978, (203), East Brighton
FOLLOWERS
Jim READ, 1962 – 67, (76), East Brighton
Dennis BARTLEY, 1964 -1965, (10), East Brighton
INTERCHANGE
David WITTY, 1986 – 87, (24), Old Brighton Grammarians,
Ray HARPER, 1919 – 1923, (35), Brighton Grammar
Mordecai BROMBERG, 1974 – 1981, (34), East Brighton
Hugh PLOWMAN, 1910- 1912, (26), Brighton
APOLOGIES
Walter STEWART, 1898 and 1900, (10), Brighton (1899)
Peter RUMNEY, 1968 – 1969, (5), East Brighton
Ian PEARSON, 1953 – 54, (9), Brighton Tech
Herbert LOUCH, 1898, (1), East Brighton
Ben HAIR, 1919, (6), Brighton Juniors
Peter BURNS, 1959 – 1960, (4), East Brighton
Allan Mc DONALD, 1965, (2), East Brighton
Jack PURSE, 1898, (1), Brighton (went on to play 109 games for Melbourne)
Gordon ROBINSON, 1911, (1), Brighton
Keith STOREY, 1930, (5), Brighton
Fred TURNBULL, 1918, (1), Brighton
Geoff WEBER, 1934, (1), Brighton
Robert CAMPBELL, 1900, (1), Brighton Beach
William CANNON, 1975, (1), Brighton Grammar
Ron ELLIS, 1943, (2), Brighton
Robert CROMIE, 1908, (1), Brighton
Peter BRADY, 1898 – 99, (10), Brighton
Edward BULMER, 1920, (2), Brighton Beach
David SHEPHERD, 1976 – 1977, (4), Brighton Grammar
Mick GRACE, 1908, (8), Brighton
Geoff TURNER, 1953, (11), Brighton
Frank ROBERTSON, 1905, (1), Brighton bench
Alfred SCOTT, 1900 – 1901, (14), Brighton (via Haileybury)
George SPILKER, 1899 – 1901, (22), Brighton
Jack TODD, 1898, (1), Brighton
Alex YOUNG, 1899, (1), Middle Brighton Juniors
William YOUNG, 1909, (2), Brighton
COACH: WILLIAMSON, COLIN M. (STK.) 1937-46, 165 games, 44 goals (ineligible, went to Brighton after St.Kilda, from Northcote originally but did coach Brighton to a flag)
HONOURABLE MENTION: RUSSELL HOLMESBY
others (did not meet the criteria, explanation in brackets)
FOX, LINDSAY (STK.) 1959-61 20 games, 3 goals (ineligible , via Moorabbin and Golden Point).
GOROZIDIS, CON A. (STK. AND FOOT.) St Kilda 1980-82, 29 games, 64 goals. Footscray 1983, 5 games, 10 goals (ineligible, via Caulfield and Sandringham).
GRAHAM, WALLY D. (STK.) 1911, 8 games, 0 goals (ineligible, went to Brighton after St. Kilda).
HARTNETT, PAT (STK.) 1930 and 1934-37, 66 games, 58 goals (ineligible, went to Brighton after St.Kilda).
HATTAM, HORACE L. 'HARRY' (STK.) 1910-15, 84 games, 2 goals (ineligible, came from Oakleigh).
HENDER, ALLAN (STK.) 1934-38, 69 games, 41 goals (ineligible, came from Port Adelaide and went to Brighton after St.Kilda).
HOWELL, AUGUSTUS 'GUS' (STK. AND FOOT.) St Kilda 1921, 1 game, 0 goals. Footscray 1926, 6 games, 2 goals. (ineligible, came from Sandringham)
PETERSON, REG L. (ESS. AND STK.) Essendon 1931-32 20 games, 8 goals. St Kilda 1933, 1 game, 1 goal. (ineligible, came from Essendon)
STRETTON, ALAN (STK.) St.Kilda, 1946 - 1947, 16 games, 10 goals, (ineligible, came from Scotch College, via Melbourne)
WALSH, BRIAN (STK.) 1956-64, 131 games, 0 goals, (ineligible, came from Ormond).
WILLIAMSON, COLIN M. (STK.) 1937-46, 165 games, 44 goals (ineligible, went to Brighton after St.Kilda, from Northcote originally but did coach Brighton to a flag)
Again, players picked as close to their credentialled positions as possible. Had to come directly from Brighton to the Saints to be eligible. It's a mighty team and yes Douggie, you made the line up after all!
BACKS
Keith MILLER, 1940 – 1942, 1946, (50), Brighton
Harry LEVER, 1905 – 1915, (218), Brighton
Gerald BALME, 1902 – 06, (91), Brighton Grammar
HALF BACKS
Gordon DANGERFIELD, 1905 – 1919, (159), Brighton
Harold MATTTHEWS, 1925 – 1932, (136), Brighton
Clarrie HINDSON, 1930 – 36, (90), Brighton Vale Amateurs
CENTRES
Jeffrey MORAN, 1965 – 1974, (155), East Brighton
Geoff FIDLER, 1980 – 1984, (46), East Brighton
Percy ELLIN, 1905 – 1910, (70), East Brighton
HALF FORWARDS
Claude CLOUGH, 1900 – 1901, (23), Brighton Grammar
Artie DAWSON, 1918 -1919 & 1921, (20), Brighton
Horace BANNISTER, 1922 – 1923, (17), Brighton
FORWARDS
Doug BOOTH, 1976 – 1978 and 1982, (24), East Brighton
John BENNETT, 1980 – 1983 and 1985 – 1986, (35), East Brighton
Jeff SARAU, 1973 – 1983, (119), East Brighton
RUCK
Carl DITTERICH, 1963 – 1972 and 1976 – 1978, (203), East Brighton
FOLLOWERS
Jim READ, 1962 – 67, (76), East Brighton
Dennis BARTLEY, 1964 -1965, (10), East Brighton
INTERCHANGE
David WITTY, 1986 – 87, (24), Old Brighton Grammarians,
Ray HARPER, 1919 – 1923, (35), Brighton Grammar
Mordecai BROMBERG, 1974 – 1981, (34), East Brighton
Hugh PLOWMAN, 1910- 1912, (26), Brighton
APOLOGIES
Walter STEWART, 1898 and 1900, (10), Brighton (1899)
Peter RUMNEY, 1968 – 1969, (5), East Brighton
Ian PEARSON, 1953 – 54, (9), Brighton Tech
Herbert LOUCH, 1898, (1), East Brighton
Ben HAIR, 1919, (6), Brighton Juniors
Peter BURNS, 1959 – 1960, (4), East Brighton
Allan Mc DONALD, 1965, (2), East Brighton
Jack PURSE, 1898, (1), Brighton (went on to play 109 games for Melbourne)
Gordon ROBINSON, 1911, (1), Brighton
Keith STOREY, 1930, (5), Brighton
Fred TURNBULL, 1918, (1), Brighton
Geoff WEBER, 1934, (1), Brighton
Robert CAMPBELL, 1900, (1), Brighton Beach
William CANNON, 1975, (1), Brighton Grammar
Ron ELLIS, 1943, (2), Brighton
Robert CROMIE, 1908, (1), Brighton
Peter BRADY, 1898 – 99, (10), Brighton
Edward BULMER, 1920, (2), Brighton Beach
David SHEPHERD, 1976 – 1977, (4), Brighton Grammar
Mick GRACE, 1908, (8), Brighton
Geoff TURNER, 1953, (11), Brighton
Frank ROBERTSON, 1905, (1), Brighton bench
Alfred SCOTT, 1900 – 1901, (14), Brighton (via Haileybury)
George SPILKER, 1899 – 1901, (22), Brighton
Jack TODD, 1898, (1), Brighton
Alex YOUNG, 1899, (1), Middle Brighton Juniors
William YOUNG, 1909, (2), Brighton
COACH: WILLIAMSON, COLIN M. (STK.) 1937-46, 165 games, 44 goals (ineligible, went to Brighton after St.Kilda, from Northcote originally but did coach Brighton to a flag)
HONOURABLE MENTION: RUSSELL HOLMESBY
others (did not meet the criteria, explanation in brackets)
FOX, LINDSAY (STK.) 1959-61 20 games, 3 goals (ineligible , via Moorabbin and Golden Point).
GOROZIDIS, CON A. (STK. AND FOOT.) St Kilda 1980-82, 29 games, 64 goals. Footscray 1983, 5 games, 10 goals (ineligible, via Caulfield and Sandringham).
GRAHAM, WALLY D. (STK.) 1911, 8 games, 0 goals (ineligible, went to Brighton after St. Kilda).
HARTNETT, PAT (STK.) 1930 and 1934-37, 66 games, 58 goals (ineligible, went to Brighton after St.Kilda).
HATTAM, HORACE L. 'HARRY' (STK.) 1910-15, 84 games, 2 goals (ineligible, came from Oakleigh).
HENDER, ALLAN (STK.) 1934-38, 69 games, 41 goals (ineligible, came from Port Adelaide and went to Brighton after St.Kilda).
HOWELL, AUGUSTUS 'GUS' (STK. AND FOOT.) St Kilda 1921, 1 game, 0 goals. Footscray 1926, 6 games, 2 goals. (ineligible, came from Sandringham)
PETERSON, REG L. (ESS. AND STK.) Essendon 1931-32 20 games, 8 goals. St Kilda 1933, 1 game, 1 goal. (ineligible, came from Essendon)
STRETTON, ALAN (STK.) St.Kilda, 1946 - 1947, 16 games, 10 goals, (ineligible, came from Scotch College, via Melbourne)
WALSH, BRIAN (STK.) 1956-64, 131 games, 0 goals, (ineligible, came from Ormond).
WILLIAMSON, COLIN M. (STK.) 1937-46, 165 games, 44 goals (ineligible, went to Brighton after St.Kilda, from Northcote originally but did coach Brighton to a flag)
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Elvis you have done a great job but my great grandfather was Harry(Horace) Hattam I'm pretty sure according to my family he went to Brighton after he came back from the war.
He played half back and even back in those days they had the young girls chasing them .
My grandmother donated the 1913 grand final photo to the club they all lived in Brighton.
He played half back and even back in those days they had the young girls chasing them .
My grandmother donated the 1913 grand final photo to the club they all lived in Brighton.
Awesome but he played for Brighton after being with the Saints and unfortunately doesn't quite fit the criteria for this line up. It is a shame that there has to be some sort of criteria, but if it was extended to those that might have played at a Brighton club after they left the Saints I would very much run the risk of missing lots of players out, simply because they are difficult to keep track of after they leave the club. Came from Oakleigh originally, according to Russ Holmesby. Happy to let Russ know if that is incorrect, but the man is pretty sharp on this sort of stuff!! Horace Hattam still slips in as an apology/honorable mention.saint1974 wrote:Elvis you have done a great job but my great grandfather was Harry(Horace) Hattam I'm pretty sure according to my family he went to Brighton after he came back from the war.
He played half back and even back in those days they had the young girls chasing them .
My grandmother donated the 1913 grand final photo to the club they all lived in Brighton.
Another reason there is a criteria is to pay tribute to clubs/areas/states where players were nurtured. In that way, if my sources are correct and he did come from Oakleigh it would be kind of disrespectful to that club to represent him as having hailed from Brighton immediately prior to going to play for the Saints.
I am halfway through a Saints that Served team, but thought I'd leave it until around Anzac week next year... a team in which your Great Grandfather will be afforded his rightful place. Fantastic to have that sort of lineage in your bloodlines and thanks for the background!
A bit late with this, but how about Alan Stretton, Major-General AO, OBE.
He, like Col Williamson went to Brighton from St Kilda and under Col (the Coach) helped Brighton win its first flag. Played 31 games with St Kilda and kicked 10 goals.
He lived in the district and started training with Melbourne until the Coulter Law Tribunal decided he was bound to St Kilda.
His decorations resulted from his miltary service and his work in the Darwin tragedy, Cyclone Tracy, 1974.
Strangely he seems to have slipped under Holmsbey's radar.
He, like Col Williamson went to Brighton from St Kilda and under Col (the Coach) helped Brighton win its first flag. Played 31 games with St Kilda and kicked 10 goals.
He lived in the district and started training with Melbourne until the Coulter Law Tribunal decided he was bound to St Kilda.
His decorations resulted from his miltary service and his work in the Darwin tragedy, Cyclone Tracy, 1974.
Strangely he seems to have slipped under Holmsbey's radar.
Always a Saint
No doubting the good General's family connection to Brighton and most certainly he was a valuable contributor to that line up beyond his days at the Saints. Yet sources so far suggest he came directly from Scotch College via Melbourne, so he makes the also list at the moment.Duggie1 wrote:A bit late with this, but how about Alan Stretton, Major-General AO, OBE.
He, like Col Williamson went to Brighton from St Kilda and under Col (the Coach) helped Brighton win its first flag. Played 31 games with St Kilda and kicked 10 goals.
He lived in the district and started training with Melbourne until the Coulter Law Tribunal decided he was bound to St Kilda.
His decorations resulted from his miltary service and his work in the Darwin tragedy, Cyclone Tracy, 1974.
Strangely he seems to have slipped under Holmsbey's radar.
An interesting aside in this line up is the number of players who went on to have quite extraordinary lives. A little on the geeky side but definitely very enjoyable sourcing this info, with contributions like yours assisting the validity of the side chosen.
Thanks Duggie, it is still a formidable line up, even without the Major General's firepower!
I was going to post about Alan Stretton yesterday but had a minor (according to my son) computer malfunction although a major problem for me. I can't recall where, but I have a film clip of Brighton's VFA flag win and in the 3/4 time huddle Stretton was clearly visible. When you look at the size of other players around Stretton he looks like either a ruckman or a KPP.Duggie1 wrote:A bit late with this, but how about Alan Stretton, Major-General AO, OBE.
He, like Col Williamson went to Brighton from St Kilda and under Col (the Coach) helped Brighton win its first flag. Played 31 games with St Kilda and kicked 10 goals.
He lived in the district and started training with Melbourne until the Coulter Law Tribunal decided he was bound to St Kilda.
His decorations resulted from his miltary service and his work in the Darwin tragedy, Cyclone Tracy, 1974.
Strangely he seems to have slipped under Holmsbey's radar.
Again Stretton played at Brighton after being at St.Kilda, so doesn't quite fit the criteria, as explained above. Nevertheless this and other posts demonstrate the strong connection between the red, white and black and the area, a genuine nursery.
I guess all this does beg the question.... Is there a single team in the country where a whole team could be made up of ex-St.Kilda players. Probably not, but there might be several leagues out (possibly the amateurs, definitely Ballarat) there where ex-Saints have gone on to play football..enough to make a decent side.
Two 66'ers (two and a half if we count Big Carl in the stands), an OBE Major General, an Australian Test cricketer and WW2 fighter pilot, a Colonel... indeed a talented and colourful line up.
I guess all this does beg the question.... Is there a single team in the country where a whole team could be made up of ex-St.Kilda players. Probably not, but there might be several leagues out (possibly the amateurs, definitely Ballarat) there where ex-Saints have gone on to play football..enough to make a decent side.
Two 66'ers (two and a half if we count Big Carl in the stands), an OBE Major General, an Australian Test cricketer and WW2 fighter pilot, a Colonel... indeed a talented and colourful line up.
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Fantastic piece of research Elvis !!!!
Not only a great read and some great memories, but a interesting footnote on our history.
I reckon your summary should be a link to WestofMoorabbin so it is not "lost" in the mire of abusive threads about egos.
Peanut?
Not only a great read and some great memories, but a interesting footnote on our history.
I reckon your summary should be a link to WestofMoorabbin so it is not "lost" in the mire of abusive threads about egos.
Peanut?
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
Will do and thanks for the thumbs up Enrico. Have been holidaying at Point Lookout so fell behind with this. Will consider the Brighton line up as closed and thanks to all contributors again. It is a cracking side.Enrico_Misso wrote:Fantastic piece of research Elvis !!!!
Not only a great read and some great memories, but a interesting footnote on our history.
I reckon your summary should be a link to WestofMoorabbin so it is not "lost" in the mire of abusive threads about egos.
Peanut?
During the break I read a biography of Keith Miller...what an incredible story, if this has in some tiny way helped to promote the historical integrity of our list then I feel very chuffed about that.
The latest team, however, has a slightly different tack! Check out the next post.