Some worrying signs...

[WayneJudson42]

I love the excitement, passion and enthusiasm being displayed on this forum by supporters. And who can blame us?

Some are keeping a bit of a lid on it, more so than others.

Yes, we are a genuine chance at winning... and yes, I want us to win...

BUT, what happens if we lose? Will we accept that we were done by a better team?

OR, will there be the usual post-match recriminations with supporters calling for trades, bagging players and the coach?

I for one will hope it's the former.

In the words of the Great Dennis Commetti...

We will go in optimimisticaly... and come out misty-optically?

Let's wait and see...

[The Saintsational Man]

I doubt the boys will disappoint come sunday.

They'll leave the field having given it everything they have.

I have no doubt.

[MACEwasACE]

If the boys give everything they've got and we're beaten by a better side, then so bit it. We'll all be proud and still in the hunt.

But We'll WIN!!!!!

[StSteven]

I doubt the boys will disappoint come sunday.

They'll leave the field having given it everything they have.

I have no doubt.

I am sure you are right, but they do that regulaly, it is just that the fans don't know what they have been through; exhaustion, injuries, niggles etc.

[Mr Magic]

Let me be the first so we can get it out of the way win, lose or draw.

SACK LYON


BRING BACK GT


DAMN RB


TRADE MILNE, KOSI, DAL, ROO


DELIST BLAKE, RAPH, GWILT, X


Have I missed any?

[bigcarl]

BUT, what happens if we lose? Will we accept that we were done by a better team?

it depends on the circumstances. imo it's been rare for us to be beaten purely on talent. if everyone gives it 100 per cent and we still come up short we won't lose any friends.

but i'd like to see us go down playing a few shots rather than freezing up and meekly submitting to geelong's dominance.

so long as we try to win it. i'll be satisfied.

[cowboy18]

Let me be the first so we can get it out of the way win, lose or draw.

SACK LYON


BRING BACK GT


DAMN RB


TRADE MILNE, KOSI, DAL, ROO


DELIST BLAKE, RAPH, GWILT, X


Have I missed any?

ahem.

[rodgerfox]

I'm not sure I agree with you WayneJudson42.


We finished 4th by a whisker. In other years, it could have been as low as 8th.

I hope we don't hang our hats on the actual ladder position at year's end - but instead break down the performance on it's merits.

Finishing 4th doesn't neccessarily mean Lyon is a great coach and our list is wonderful.

It means exactly the same as if the umpires didn't overrule the goal that Ryder kicked in the 1st quarter and we were playing in an elimination final tomorrow.


Our performance over the next month will tell us a lot. Much more than tha fact that 'we finished 4th'.

[St Michele]

I am feeling the same part of me really wants to win on sunday because of all the press just writing us off but strategically we are better off not winning as if we do Geelong with be really p.....off and then if we meet them in the Grand Final be more challenging to beat but if we lose, we lose face ( again) but because we will be written off when it comes ot the Grand final we will be able to smack it to them.

Maybe I should just be happy either way on sunday.

Michele

[joffaboy]

This must be killing you and the other "sack Lyon" flogs on here

I can imagine it.

Alternative A - We only got in the four by a whisker - we only won three games in the finals against < insert team here> becauss <insert excuse for opposition team here>. Just because we won the flag doesn't mean Ross Lyon is a good coach.

Alternative B - We only got in the four by a whisker and didn't win the flag, conclusively vindicates our calls for Ross Lyon to be sacked.

Wouldn't just be easier for you lot who wanted Lyon sacked mid year to admit you were wrong?

[Saints Premiers 2008]

no doubt the usuals will come out whinging and whining

ah well

[St. Luke]

I doubt the boys will disappoint come sunday.

They'll leave the field having given it everything they have.

I have no doubt.

That's all I'm hoping for also. Anything less would be disappointing. Win or lose we get to fight on another day...but a 2 week break would really do something for us! Settle the nerves, set the mind! Imagine a Prelim!

[BringBackMadDog]

It means exactly the same as if the umpires didn't overrule the goal that Ryder kicked in the 1st quarter and we were playing in an elimination final tomorrow.

You are a deadset flog Rodger, Even if Ryders goal had counted we would have still finished fourth, in fact we had 1 more goal in hand.

[WayneJudson42]

I'm not sure I agree with you WayneJudson42.


We finished 4th by a whisker. In other years, it could have been as low as 8th.

I hope we don't hang our hats on the actual ladder position at year's end - but instead break down the performance on it's merits.

Finishing 4th doesn't neccessarily mean Lyon is a great coach and our list is wonderful.

It means exactly the same as if the umpires didn't overrule the goal that Ryder kicked in the 1st quarter and we were playing in an elimination final tomorrow.


Our performance over the next month will tell us a lot. Much more than tha fact that 'we finished 4th'.

I agree. Have posted this on another thread. Sunday is the big test IMO, re players and coaches. But we'll hav eplenty of time to review this after the finals.

The context of this thread was more about people getting carried away about Sunday.

[Eastern]

Let me be the first so we can get it out of the way win, lose or draw.

SACK LYON


BRING BACK GT


DAMN RB


TRADE MILNE, KOSI, DAL, ROO


DELIST BLAKE, RAPH, GWILT, X


Have I missed any?

ahem.

I can see this pic ending up on the dart board of the Elsternwick Park Advocate !!

[WayneJudson42]

I doubt the boys will disappoint come sunday.

They'll leave the field having given it everything they have.

I have no doubt.

That's all I'm hoping for also. Anything less would be disappointing. Win or lose we get to fight on another day...but a 2 week break would really do something for us! Settle the nerves, set the mind! Imagine a Prelim!

It's bad enough for 1 week on this forum... imagine 2 weeks? Everyone's nerves would be shot.

[St. Luke]

I doubt the boys will disappoint come sunday.

They'll leave the field having given it everything they have.

I have no doubt.

That's all I'm hoping for also. Anything less would be disappointing. Win or lose we get to fight on another day...but a 2 week break would really do something for us! Settle the nerves, set the mind! Imagine a Prelim!

It's bad enough for 1 week on this forum... imagine 2 weeks? Everyone's nerves would be shot.

I'm rooted after the last few days...I'm in a bit of a state atm hehehe

I'm frightened to see what I'll be like come Sunday morning!

[rodgerfox]

It means exactly the same as if the umpires didn't overrule the goal that Ryder kicked in the 1st quarter and we were playing in an elimination final tomorrow.

You are a deadset flog Rodger, Even if Ryders goal had counted we would have still finished fourth, in fact we had 1 more goal in hand.

I assumed it was obvious that I was merely pointing out that our top 4 finish could have gone either way.

Clearly it wasn't that obvious. To some.

[Eastern]

I'm rooted after the last few days...I'm in a bit of a state atm hehehe

I'm frightened to see what I'll be like come Sunday morning!

Point 1 .................Lucky you !!

Point 2.................Nerve medicine will be served from 12.45 Sunday at the Cricketers Arms !!

[markp]

I'm not sure I agree with you WayneJudson42.


We finished 4th by a whisker. In other years, it could have been as low as 8th.

I hope we don't hang our hats on the actual ladder position at year's end - but instead break down the performance on it's merits.

Finishing 4th doesn't neccessarily mean Lyon is a great coach and our list is wonderful.

It means exactly the same as if the umpires didn't overrule the goal that Ryder kicked in the 1st quarter and we were playing in an elimination final tomorrow.


Our performance over the next month will tell us a lot. Much more than tha fact that 'we finished 4th'.

IMO finishing 4th counts for finishing 4th.

Well done Saints.

[rodgerfox]

I'm not sure I agree with you WayneJudson42.


We finished 4th by a whisker. In other years, it could have been as low as 8th.

I hope we don't hang our hats on the actual ladder position at year's end - but instead break down the performance on it's merits.

Finishing 4th doesn't neccessarily mean Lyon is a great coach and our list is wonderful.

It means exactly the same as if the umpires didn't overrule the goal that Ryder kicked in the 1st quarter and we were playing in an elimination final tomorrow.


Our performance over the next month will tell us a lot. Much more than tha fact that 'we finished 4th'.

IMO finishing 4th counts for finishing 4th.

Well done Saints.

So you'd make major decisions at year's end based solely on that?

[St Chris]

I'm taking a very low key approach this week.

I think Geelong are a much better team than St Kilda. The ladder position after 22 weeks shows that.

Having said that, i don't believe Geelong are unbeatable, but i really don't think St Kilda can beat them twice. We can beat them, but i'd much rather we beat them in 4 weeks time, rather than this Sunday.

I think our premiership hopes are much better if we have an honourable loss on sunday, without any major injuries or tribunal problems, than if we were to show Geelong up and pull off an upset.

If we were to beat them, i would be over the moon, but i would be hoping like hell that someone else beats them before the Grand Final so we didn't have to play them again, because I don't think we can get them on a bad day twice in a month.

I'll be there cheering my lungs out for our boys, but I certainly won't be slitting any wrists if we lose.

[markp]

I'm not sure I agree with you WayneJudson42.


We finished 4th by a whisker. In other years, it could have been as low as 8th.

I hope we don't hang our hats on the actual ladder position at year's end - but instead break down the performance on it's merits.

Finishing 4th doesn't neccessarily mean Lyon is a great coach and our list is wonderful.

It means exactly the same as if the umpires didn't overrule the goal that Ryder kicked in the 1st quarter and we were playing in an elimination final tomorrow.


Our performance over the next month will tell us a lot. Much more than tha fact that 'we finished 4th'.

IMO finishing 4th counts for finishing 4th.

Well done Saints.

So you'd make major decisions at year's end based solely on that?

On the list or the coach?

I'd say it means RL has done enough to keep the wolves away from his door, and gone a long way to ensuring a contract extension next year.

Of course performance in the finals will count for much too.

I'm really looking forward to seeing what Lyon has in his bag of tricks.... I'm tipping it's more than just belief clouds.

[Persuader]

Have you seen the ladder that shows us as the second best performed team in the last half of the year?
We'll take it up to them - Dempster is a big loss. No Ball. Rooey a bit proppy I feel. It will be tough to win but I do think we're tough enough to get the ball.
Whether we'll have the composure to kick the goals we need....
Where there's hope, there's life.

[rodgerfox]

I'm not sure I agree with you WayneJudson42.


We finished 4th by a whisker. In other years, it could have been as low as 8th.

I hope we don't hang our hats on the actual ladder position at year's end - but instead break down the performance on it's merits.

Finishing 4th doesn't neccessarily mean Lyon is a great coach and our list is wonderful.

It means exactly the same as if the umpires didn't overrule the goal that Ryder kicked in the 1st quarter and we were playing in an elimination final tomorrow.


Our performance over the next month will tell us a lot. Much more than tha fact that 'we finished 4th'.

IMO finishing 4th counts for finishing 4th.

Well done Saints.

So you'd make major decisions at year's end based solely on that?

On the list or the coach?

I'd say it means RL has done enough to keep the wolves away from his door, and gone a long way to ensuring a contract extension next year.

Of course performance in the finals will count for much too.

I'm really looking forward to seeing what Lyon has in his bag of tricks.... I'm tipping it's more than just belief clouds.

That's what I disagree with.

The fact that we 'finished 4th' shouldn't really be a factor.

As I said, we made it by a whisker. I'd say personally, that the review at year's end should be the same whether we snuck into 4th or finished 8th.

We beat Essendon well after having a very good second half of the year.

If we beat Essendon by 2 goals less, would that change? No.


All I'm saying is that ladder positions shouldn't be a factor when reviewing footy departments.

If North won - does that make our season any worse? If Collingwood won, ditto?

We still performed the same.