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ausfatcat · Post: # 476388Post **ausfatcat** » Mon 15 Oct 2007 8:10am

Hayes is our best captain IMO.

Gicing it to a first year smacks of desperation and pisses the playing group off.

We are not Carlton

saintsrus · Post: # 476389Post **saintsrus** » Mon 15 Oct 2007 8:10am

He really seems to have the maturity and attitude, but really doesnt deserve it.

luckysaint · Post: # 476391Post **luckysaint** » Mon 15 Oct 2007 8:26am

aussierules0k wrote:

Serious.

I don't believe it

Saint 58 · Post: # 476396Post **Saint 58** » Mon 15 Oct 2007 9:41am

He may have, (had), the attributes, but no way, he's at the back end of the Captaincy Line.

Hayes, Ball, Reiwoldt .....

riccardo · Post: # 476399Post **riccardo** » Mon 15 Oct 2007 9:57am

He only just got here, how would that make last years Captains (and the rest of the boys) feel?

No thanks.

St DAC · Post: # 476404Post **St DAC** » Mon 15 Oct 2007 10:20am

Err .. no. We've a few great candidates ourselves, including the incumbents.

saintspremiers · Mon 15 Oct 2007 10:23am

No.

We are not Carlton.

We don't need to give our quality recruit captaincy as (unlike the beggars) we have our own players more than capable of taking the post (ie. Roo, Hayes, BJ etc).

Also, I can't see us sacking our captain at seasons end because he's got a dicky knee (read: too fat & lazy!)

Eastern · Post: # 476413Post **Eastern** » Mon 15 Oct 2007 10:52am

aussierules0k wrote:

Serious. He's been there, he knows what's required.
As we've seen, making youngsters captains often has a negative effect on their performance. Having 2 or 3 Capts devalues the position, 1 capt is all that's required to flip a coin. King would only play better if given the job.

Plus it would really stick it to the pussies.

Captain King for me.

[putting on flame proof vest] So what do you guys think? [ducking for cover]

Even for merely making this suggestion your mullett is now set to become a mowhawk

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Pureoctain · Mon 15 Oct 2007 10:52am

Saint Nick should be captain...by himself

Lenny is a great leader but nick will be captain for 7-8 more years
Ball still needs to concentrate on himself, get his body right

Nick has won last 2 b&Fs, is a greeat leader and a great media man for the club

MY vote is Roo....as only captain for 2008 and onwards!

The Peanut · Mon 15 Oct 2007 11:01am

Surely you jest AOK

What sort of a message would that send to our players ... wouldn't have any good players left after their contracts run out

aussierules0k · Mon 15 Oct 2007 12:11pm

Post: # 476442Post **n1ck** » Mon 15 Oct 2007 12:15pm

Riewoldt (C)
Hayes (VC)

St DAC · Post: # 476447Post **St DAC** » Mon 15 Oct 2007 12:23pm

Reiwoldt (C).
Hayes (VC).
Ball (DVC).

saint66au · Post: # 476452Post **saint66au** » Mon 15 Oct 2007 12:58pm

Ahhh Lenny Hayes is 27..only a year younger than King

We are blessed to have three outstanding leaders who have learnt their AFL skills at our Club. The rest of the playing group would walk in front of a bus for these guys

King was captain for...two years?? That gives all our blokes just as much leadership experience as him anyway.

Sure, make use of his leadership experiece. Have him mentor our young ruckmen, even at a pinch give him a Leadership Group role, but no way should he be considered for the Captaincy, joint or otherwise.

In my experience in the big wide world, bringing people into leadership/management roles from outside when there are capable people already within your ranks is very bad for morale.

saintsRrising · Mon 15 Oct 2007 1:32pm

No...

I think Roo's speeach at the B&F has shown that he has stepped up to the plate.....

and then there is Lenny...who is now fully fit and firing.

saintly · Post: # 476485Post **saintly** » Mon 15 Oct 2007 2:24pm

the 3 that were captains this year will be captains next year.

Lyon is not doing a rotational captaincy

dalboy · Post: # 476518Post **dalboy** » Mon 15 Oct 2007 4:16pm

King captain....thats funny! Spare me AOK, absolutlely no chance.

BakesFan · Post: # 476587Post **BakesFan** » Mon 15 Oct 2007 6:17pm

Gutsy post, AOK.... and I'm quite sure you must have 'captained' your school debating team; simply for having the courage to post such a suggestion.

In your heart (and head) I'm positive you know that Kingy simply cannot be the captain of the Saints whilst Banger, Lenny and Rooey are at the club.
The 2008 captain MUST be one of these three.

My opinion F.W.I.W(which is bugger all) is;
Captain: Banger.
Vice Captains: Lenny & Rooey. (Bally only just misses out)

I totally agree with your point that the Saints captaincy has been 'watered down'.
It's a position that needs to be EARNED; and it's a title that players should strive to acheive. That's why King cannot have it at this point in time.

I want to congratulate you on your post, insofar as it will hopefully make Saints supporters; and especially players; realise how big an honour it is to Captain the St.Kilda Football Club.

GO SAINTERS!!

Post: # 476590Post **n1ck** » Mon 15 Oct 2007 6:19pm

Banger wouldnt want it.

Hes an inspiration on his own anyway. Doesnt need a title.

I was very skeptical when the 3 Captains were announced. Wanted Lenny as sole skipper.

IMO I think Rooey showed that he wants the title full time, and that he deserves it. This bloke puts his body and soul on the line week in and week out. Hes 24 / 25. Hes a natural leader now who has grown into the position.

Captain Riewoldt, Vice Captain Hayes.

BakesFan · Post: # 476593Post **BakesFan** » Mon 15 Oct 2007 6:21pm

n1ck wrote:Banger wouldnt want it.

and that's exactly why he deserves it, grasshopper.

(but I'd be more than happy to live with your choice, n1ck. Rooey and Lenny would be superb)

plugger66 · Post: # 476594Post **plugger66** » Mon 15 Oct 2007 6:21pm

BakesFan wrote:Gutsy post, AOK.... and I'm quite sure you must have 'captained' your school debating team; simply for having the courage to post such a suggestion.

In your heart (and head) I'm positive you know that Kingy simply cannot be the captain of the Saints whilst Banger, Lenny and Rooey are at the club.
The 2008 captain MUST be one of these three.

My opinion F.W.I.W(which is bugger all) is;
Captain: Banger.
Vice Captains: Lenny & Rooey. (Bally only just misses out)

I totally agree with your point that the Saints captaincy has been 'watered down'.
It's a position that needs to be EARNED; and it's a title that players should strive to acheive. That's why King cannot have it at this point in time.

I want to congratulate you on your post, insofar as it will hopefully make Saints supporters; and especially players; realise how big an honour it is to Captain the St.Kilda Football Club.

GO SAINTERS!!

A backward step having Harvs as captain. i have no doubt that it will be the same 3 guys unless for some reason on of them dont want it.

bigred · Post: # 476601Post **bigred** » Mon 15 Oct 2007 6:28pm

After the B & F...

Roo.

Gotta live up to it.

BakesFan · Post: # 476604Post **BakesFan** » Mon 15 Oct 2007 6:30pm

plugger66 wrote:A backward step having Harvs as captain. i have no doubt that it will be the same 3 guys unless for some reason on of them dont want it.

Why is it a backward step? GT took the Captaincy off Harvs to play his silly little 'rotation' games.
I see Banger being reinstated Captain as natural justice.
Rooey will no doubt make an amazing Saints Captain (perhaps the greatest ever); but at this point in time no-one has earned it ahead of Banger.

plugger66 · Post: # 476610Post **plugger66** » Mon 15 Oct 2007 6:34pm

BakesFan wrote:
plugger66 wrote:A backward step having Harvs as captain. i have no doubt that it will be the same 3 guys unless for some reason on of them dont want it.
Why is it a backward step? GT took the Captaincy off Harvs to play his silly little 'rotation' games.
I see Banger being reinstated Captain as natural justice.
Rooey will no doubt make an amazing Saints Captain (perhaps the greatest ever); but at this point in time no-one has earned it ahead of Banger.

He is 36 and hasnt been captain for 6 years. You dont go backwards when the players that were captain are still young and still at the club. One other reason is he wouldnt take it.

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