8 more years of Max King

[StNoodles]

6 year extension

Per 7 news

https://x.com/7afl/status/1836329420115 ... fB-Rf8BYCQ

[B.M]

Haha

[The_Dud]

All our eggs are officially in one basket

[B.M]

Why

Is he the only player on the list

Isn’t that the problem- the line of thinking that he’s the only forward

Higgins, Caminiti, Collard, Garcia, Sharman

Also able to play a bit

[WellardSaint]

Honestly, I've been buying membership for a long time,
but this has me conflicted.

He's not worthy to clean Rooey's boots, but here he is disgracing the #12 by running away from the club while he's rehabbing, and being placed on damn PEDESTAL

What message does it send to the others who work their butts off without sulking the way he does

[Bowey Boy]

And one year of Zak Jones. Apparently the pay is slightly less.

[WellardSaint]

Someone tell me how many games we won w/out King in the last 2 yrs.

I'm curious

[WellardSaint]

I wouldn't blame Sharman or Caminiti if they requested a trade at contract renewal time.
They deserve more respect.

Question: has the Sook ever come back via the Zebs, or has he come straight in after an injury lay-off?

[The_Dud]

Why

Is he the only player on the list

Isn’t that the problem- the line of thinking that he’s the only forward

Higgins, Caminiti, Collard, Garcia, Sharman

Also able to play a bit

Because due to the (inevitable) cost and length of the contract, if he’s a bust, we’re f**ked!

[The_Dud]

Someone tell me how many games we won w/out King in the last 2 yrs.

I'm curious

We score more and win more when King isn’t playing since Ross arrived.

[King Max]

Honestly, I've been buying membership for a long tome,
but this has me conflicted.

He's not worthy to clean Rooey's boots, but here he is disgracing the #12 by running away from the club while he's rehabbing, and being placed on damn PEDESTAL

What message does it send to the others who work their butts off without sulking the way he does

What’s this about him running away from the club?

[Teflon]

Smart move
Cap goes up 2 CBAs in that time
Clubs will come for him with big $
Front load now use extra cash later to sure up others but key forward who kicked 50 in year 2 locked away
Sure it will have plenty of clauses
Good that he sees the direction also
Now get NAS done …

[saynta]

Great. At last the club has done something reasonable. Although most of the recent crap has come from the press and not the club.

[ace]

NO

[WellardSaint]

Honestly, I've been buying membership for a long tome,
but this has me conflicted.

He's not worthy to clean Rooey's boots, but here he is disgracing the #12 by running away from the club while he's rehabbing, and being placed on damn PEDESTAL

What message does it send to the others who work their butts off without sulking the way he does

What’s this about him running away from the club?

When he got injured rrcently, Ross said Max was getting away from the club to get his head clear.
Doesn't he know there's a DFC at RSEA Park?
does he think DFC is the new Saints disco?
Disco- Fellas n Chicks

[St Dave]

Someone tell me how many games we won w/out King in the last 2 yrs.

I'm curious

We score more and win more when King isn’t playing since Ross arrived.

Without doing any analysis on the quality of opposition or home vs away etc, over the last two seasons (47 games) we have won 10 games with King and won 14 games without him. Seems like we are slightly better without him.

However, over the last two years on average scores we are only just over 4 points better off without him (74.4 point avg vs 78.7 point avg), so not really a major change to our offensive performance.

If you change the Rd 17 2023 game against Melbourne to no Max (given he got injured after 1% of game time), the averages change to 75.1 points with vs 77.9 points without, just under 3 points difference.

In reality, it isn't really a big enough sample size (only just over 20 games either way, look at the impact of flipping that one game), and there is a pretty big mitigating factor over the last two years being him clearly being hampered by injury stopping him from performing consistently (particularly in 2024 where he was performing a goal worse per game, 1.58 vs 2.55 avg).

Just as a hypothetical, I added an extra goal to all games Max played in 2024 (to simulate his 2023 goal output, noting he was still very impacted by injury in that year), it actually levels out our average scoring over those last two years to 78 points with, 78.7 points without (or with the Melbourne game flipped actually sees Max better at 78.9 avg with vs 77.9 avg without), but interestingly it actually flips 3 games, GWS in round 6, Hawks in round 10, and Port in round 17 which could have seen us finish on 14 wins and likely 7th on the ladder.

Tldr: Over 2 years of injured Max we are still only 3-4 points worse off per game. Lots of room for upside with healthy Max so fingers crossed he can get his body right.

[ace]

I can't guarantee that I will live long enough to see the end of the sook.

I have been waiting 58 years for another premiership, why won't the club let me see another ?

[Nick DalSanto Claus]

Well, it does mean he's locked up until 2030, if what is being reported is accurate.

That makes it much harder for an opposition club to pinch him. Having said that, contracts mean bugger all these days, with about 40℅ of players who were traded over the past few years being contracted at the time.

RTB and the Knights of the Round Table obviously rate him and see him as a critical part of our forward line. We know what Max can do. It's a gamble worth taking, IMHO.

[Scollop]

Is Max going to Austria to train at the Red Bull Athlete Performance Centre?

He should

[King Max]

Honestly, I've been buying membership for a long tome,
but this has me conflicted.

He's not worthy to clean Rooey's boots, but here he is disgracing the #12 by running away from the club while he's rehabbing, and being placed on damn PEDESTAL

What message does it send to the others who work their butts off without sulking the way he does

What’s this about him running away from the club?

When he got injured rrcently, Ross said Max was getting away from the club to get his head clear.
Doesn't he know there's a DFC at RSEA Park?
does he think DFC is the new Saints disco?
Disco- Fellas n Chicks

What a heinous crime!
Delist!

[D.B.Cooper]

This signing is imperative if we are serious about recruiting free agents and building and maintaining a quality list.

We’ve lost Battle & Gresham to FA, if King was to also leave what is the message we send to the competition and to our own players coming through.

A fit and firing King is critical to our chances if we are to become a contender.

Yes it’s rolling the dice with the reported contract length, but I’d rather give this to our own home grown talent.

I back Max to fulfill his potential starting in 2025.

[SaintWiki]

Well, it does mean he's locked up until 2030, if what is being reported is accurate.

That makes it much harder for an opposition club to pinch him. Having said that, contracts mean bugger all these days, with about 40℅ of players who were traded over the past few years being contracted at the time.

RTB and the Knights of the Round Table obviously rate him and see him as a critical part of our forward line. We know what Max can do. It's a gamble worth taking, IMHO.

Roughly where I stand.
So glad I found this thread before the same old posters put this topic into a total mentdown.

[spert]

Hope King does well, but he has already had a number of injuries which have put him out of the team for extended periods, and looks to have an eggshell body which means the compounding effect of more injuries during a season which we don't want from key players.

[SaintWiki]

Hope King does well, but he has already had a number of injuries which have put him out of the team for extended periods, and looks to have an eggshell body which means the compounding effect of more injuries during a season which we don't want from key players.

I'm sure the club knows more about his so-called 'eggshell body' than any supporters so they must know that there is light at the end of the tunnel. It seems to me that what Max needs now is to know everyone in behind him as a lack of confidence is an important hidden factor that can easily lead to injury.

[Otiman]

I'll hurl if I hear the word upside or potential about Max King again. Someone get the bucket.