Zak Jones season over

[King Max]

[SaintPav]

Interesting to see if he gets a one year contract.

I think RTB likes him.

[samoht]

RL's jonesing for Jones?

[bobmurray]

Will we miss him ?
Will he back in 2024 or will he get the flick at season's end ?

[The Fireman]

I’m a Zac fan. This is bad news

[SaintWiki]

I’m a Zac fan. This is bad news

I'm a fan too but his body doesn't allow him to contribute much.

[The_Dud]

Bad luck for Zak, very unfortunate, but going off what he’s done on field this year I’m happy to put a line thru him. Time to move on.

[magnifisaint]

Zak from him this season.

[Trev from the Bush]

I am pleased for Zac it is only a strain, he might get a full pre-season in for 2024.

[B.M]

It was a collision injury - could happen to any player

The whole injury prone commentary is rubbish wrt to players that have collision injuries- or any injuries for that matter

Most who spout it - probably never had a kick in anger

It’s an aggressive and violent ballistic contact sport - there is always casualties

Did you know Robert Harvey played less than 50% of games over a 4 year period

Then played another 6 years after the age of 31

Lenny Hayes missed two seasons with Recos

Jack Billings - apparently injury prone - played almost 150 games straight at one point!

[B.M]

BTW

I think he is very handy

Aggression and speed from stoppage

[Borat]

Is great shame for mighty Saints player who look like Angry Anderson

[SAINT-LEE]

If Zak was healthy he could offer significant support over & under...he fits that mid role, a bit of a David Armitage role...except Zak has burst speed.

His injuries, though some are contact, are no doubt linked. Ive read some interesting resources on USA NFL & MLB players regarding injury. In this study of injury, particularly knee, hamstring, shoulder injury...it suggests once a serious injury occurs the player is significantly more susceptible in contact events to injury.

It also stated multiple factors that seemed to almost argue away their research...a players dna, determination/mindset, committment to long term vs short term recovery, quality of medical facilities & intervention...all factored into a players reoccuring injury.

Regardless, hope we see him again healthy and slamming the hard body at full spees into some packs.

Get well mate.

[SAINT-LEE]

If Zak was healthy he could offer significant support over & under...he fits that mid role, a bit of a David Armitage role...except Zak has burst speed.

His injuries, though some are contact, are no doubt linked...for a fact...well, maybe.
Ive read some interesting resources on USA NFL & MLB players regarding injury. In this study of injury, particularly knee, hamstring, shoulder injury...it suggests once a serious injury occurs the player is significantly more susceptible in contact events to injury.

It also stated multiple factors that seemed to almost argue away their research...a players dna, determination/mindset, committment to long term vs short term recovery, quality of medical facilities & intervention...all factored into a players reoccuring injury.

Regardless, hope we see him again healthy and slamming the hard body at full speed into some packs.

Get well mate.

[shanegrambeau]

It was a collision injury - could happen to any player

The whole injury prone commentary is rubbish wrt to players that have collision injuries- or any injuries for that matter

Most who spout it - probably never had a kick in anger

It’s an aggressive and violent ballistic contact sport - there is always casualties

Did you know Robert Harvey played less than 50% of games over a 4 year period

Then played another 6 years after the age of 31

Lenny Hayes missed two seasons with Recos

Jack Billings - apparently injury prone - played almost 150 games straight at one point!

Nope



Injury prone is a real thing, especially soft tissue, especially calf and hammies.

I am worried that Cooper Sharman has been inducted into the foyer of the hall of hammy now actually.

Check your facts BM …it is real.. don’t know the physics of it, but they tell me it is scar tissue, tightening and compensating with other muscles and joints..loads bla bla…(now nevermind bout that jumbo jumbo, it is a real thang..)


Ask mR McKenzie..

And another real thing is that players can lose speed, leap, lateral twisting etc., after full recoveries.

Steve Waugh was a sharp medium-fast before his back went. Came back a plodder. A decent plodder, that is.

[CQ SAINT]

It was a collision injury - could happen to any player

The whole injury prone commentary is rubbish wrt to players that have collision injuries- or any injuries for that matter

Most who spout it - probably never had a kick in anger

It’s an aggressive and violent ballistic contact sport - there is always casualties

Did you know Robert Harvey played less than 50% of games over a 4 year period

Then played another 6 years after the age of 31

Lenny Hayes missed two seasons with Recos

Jack Billings - apparently injury prone - played almost 150 games straight at one point!

What a crock of s***. Define 'almost played 150 games straight'.

[The Fireman]

To say Zac is injury prone makes sense when you consider how fearlessly he attacks the ball

[saynta]

Wasn't Zas's fault he got injured. His foot got caught under Battles bum.

[repta]

Hopefully gets a one year extension.
He owes the club as he was on a pretty good contract and really hasnt performed up to that expectation.
Therefore if they can give him a chance to repay (eg minimal contract) as he could be very useful next year.

Saints need his aggression around the ball.

[B.M]

Between 2014-2021

Billings played 148 games

And some VFL games

1 injury interrupted season where he played 9 games (2015) 7 full seasons!

Overall played 90% of games

[CQ SAINT]

Between 2014-2021

Billings played 148 games

And some VFL games

1 injury interrupted season where he played 9 games (2015) 7 full seasons!

Overall played 90% of games

He played 85% of games. Didn't do a full pre-season until 2017 and only once in that time, did he play more than 12 games in a row.

As, a result, he looks quite broken now.
He should be in his prime, leading us to finals.
I'll let you continue with revisionist bulls*** and I hope he proves me wrong, but on the weekend, he looked like he was worried about kicking the ball and is playing quite differently.

[shanegrambeau]

Between 2014-2021

Billings played 148 games

And some VFL games

1 injury interrupted season where he played 9 games (2015) 7 full seasons!

Overall played 90% of games

He played 85% of games. Didn't do a full pre-season until 2017 and only once in that time, did he play more than 12 games in a row.

As, a result, he looks quite broken now.
He should be in his prime, leading us to finals.
I'll let you continue with revisionist bulls*** and I hope he proves me wrong, but on the weekend, he looked like he was worried about kicking the ball and is playing quite differently.

BM, I have agree with CQ here…

I do like questioning the assumed storyline and hype and welcome that, and I especially note Robert Harvey’s story. But it definitely goes the other way, and sometimes it starts intruding by stealth, over a period of time. And of course, we can reach the absurd, such as Hannebury and trips to the doctor in Germany.

Tow balls injury this time might be purely incidental and have nothing to do with the fact that he is injury prone hammy or soft tissue wise. This can give an opportunity for those to advance an idea that it is a good time to shoot the messenger about how it’s a ‘thing’.

I am a Zac fan, and have vouched for him here when he’s been under fire. Our weak midfield assures me he should be given a chance again next year. No disrespect to Crouch who just played a blinder.

[tony74]

Van Es as well. Ankle surgery.

[B.M]

Van Ed has disappeared- without a comment

The has been no sight of him at training. Wasn’t on the injury list just stopped playing at Sandy

I thought he’d quit!

[takeaway]

Between 2014-2021

Billings played 148 games

And some VFL games

1 injury interrupted season where he played 9 games (2015) 7 full seasons!

Overall played 90% of games

He played 85% of games. Didn't do a full pre-season until 2017 and only once in that time, did he play more than 12 games in a row.

As, a result, he looks quite broken now.
He should be in his prime, leading us to finals.
I'll let you continue with revisionist bulls*** and I hope he proves me wrong, but on the weekend, he looked like he was worried about kicking the ball and is playing quite differently.

Yes, he's had an injury riddled couple of years, started by playing most of 2021? with a foot injury, a mistake which seems to be the base on his injury run.

However, in the 4 years 2017-2020 only missed one game. 2021 missed 4. Not exactly injury prone.

Is he now broken? Didn't look too broken to me last game, his class helped first quarter, nine disposals, gather and HB to Byrnes for kick to Wood - goal, shimmy forward then handball to Crouch - goal. Last quarter, again involved in Crouch goal and one other. Still got a sore thumb as well.

He is the type of player we are short of, class disposers, hopefully he can get his body right. Fully fit easily best 22.