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Post: # 1914988Post terry smith rules »

Out
Highmore , McKenzie (inj)
Butler (omitted)

So disappointed in Butler, gone from almost AA to pfft

That play in the last quarter when he was streaming through HF and beautifully hit up a power player.. OMG

In
Bytel (obvious)
Joyce for Highmore
Then either Higgin if fit or Lonie


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Re: Changes for Eagles

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terry smith rules wrote: Sun 18 Jul 2021 12:13pm Out
Highmore , McKenzie (inj)
Butler (omitted)

So disappointed in Butler, gone from almost AA to pfft

That play in the last quarter when he was streaming through HF and beautifully hit up a power player.. OMG

In
Bytel (obvious)
Joyce for Highmore
Then either Higgin if fit or Lonie
Well it can’t be Joyce or Higgins in as both still in Victoria

So
In
Bytel, Coffield, Lonie (please not Frawley who has travelled)


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Re: Changes for Eagles

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terry smith rules wrote: Mon 19 Jul 2021 4:03pm
terry smith rules wrote: Sun 18 Jul 2021 12:13pm Out
Highmore , McKenzie (inj)
Butler (omitted)

So disappointed in Butler, gone from almost AA to pfft

That play in the last quarter when he was streaming through HF and beautifully hit up a power player.. OMG

In
Bytel (obvious)
Joyce for Highmore
Then either Higgin if fit or Lonie
Well it can’t be Joyce or Higgins in as both still in Victoria

So
In
Bytel, Coffield, Lonie (please not Frawley who has travelled)
Not Lonie please. I would prefer anyone but him.


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Re: Changes for Eagles

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Darragh was at the rugby


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Re: Changes for Eagles

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CURLY wrote: Mon 19 Jul 2021 4:23pm
terry smith rules wrote: Mon 19 Jul 2021 4:03pm
terry smith rules wrote: Sun 18 Jul 2021 12:13pm Out
Highmore , McKenzie (inj)
Butler (omitted)

So disappointed in Butler, gone from almost AA to pfft

That play in the last quarter when he was streaming through HF and beautifully hit up a power player.. OMG

In
Bytel (obvious)
Joyce for Highmore
Then either Higgin if fit or Lonie
Well it can’t be Joyce or Higgins in as both still in Victoria

So
In
Bytel, Coffield, Lonie (please not Frawley who has travelled)
Not Lonie please. I would prefer anyone but him.
Fair enough re Lonie, but how many chances does Butler get


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Re: Changes for Eagles

Post: # 1915297Post older saint »

Out: Highmore, McKenzie , Butler
Like for like and with WC big forwards
In : Frawley / Clav, Bytel, Lonie

Sub Coffield

Structure had worked so don't mess with it and WC forwards bigger than Port - Kennedy, Darling, Allen, Ryan. Petrucelli, Cripps.


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Re: Changes for Eagles

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terry smith rules wrote: Mon 19 Jul 2021 4:38pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 19 Jul 2021 4:23pm
terry smith rules wrote: Mon 19 Jul 2021 4:03pm
terry smith rules wrote: Sun 18 Jul 2021 12:13pm Out
Highmore , McKenzie (inj)
Butler (omitted)

So disappointed in Butler, gone from almost AA to pfft

That play in the last quarter when he was streaming through HF and beautifully hit up a power player.. OMG

In
Bytel (obvious)
Joyce for Highmore
Then either Higgin if fit or Lonie
Well it can’t be Joyce or Higgins in as both still in Victoria

So
In
Bytel, Coffield, Lonie (please not Frawley who has travelled)
Not Lonie please. I would prefer anyone but him.
Fair enough re Lonie, but how many chances does Butler get
Butler at least creates chances and demands a defenders attention. Not sure what Lonie offers.


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Re: Changes for Eagles

Post: # 1915303Post repta »

Butler was better this week. His pressure is getting better

However he has not been near AFL standard all year. Something has gone wrong. He is still not getting into the right positions. I thought it was Higgins crowding him. But that theory is done

Frawley will be needed against the West Coast height. This is the sort of game that he was drafted for.
Is Coffield fit yet?


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Post: # 1915305Post Wayne42 »

Frawley is needed to help combat WCE's height in attack and yet he is only 193cm, the same height as Highmore, that's a like for like swap.


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Should we ask AFL to stay and play in Perth? It would be good to have clubs flying to us to play wouldn’t it


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more chance Kent will be dropped than Butler IMO


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therabbitinthehat wrote: Mon 19 Jul 2021 7:39pm more chance Kent will be dropped than Butler IMO
Kent should be left out. Terrible game can’t remember a positive from him.


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Re: Changes for Eagles

Post: # 1915329Post bergsone »

As for Butler reckon he is going to have a big game shortly,trouble is been thinking that for weeks now,still prefer him to Lonie and Kent.Would not mind seeing Leo play across Centre/half forward as his foot skills would impact scoreboard,nothing to lose trying things now

Frawley for Highmore


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If Ratts and Lethers have publicly stated their selection policy is not to make examples of players like Hill by dropping them then you'd better hope they are consistent and maintain the integrity of that policy otherwise you watch the s*** hit the fan with the players.

Butler won't be dropped, he absolutely can't be.

Another compromised season due to COVID season has just added another degree of difficulty to a season that's already left the tracks. Selection options are terribly restricted.


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Someone who can actually kick the ball through the goals would be nice


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CURLY wrote: Mon 19 Jul 2021 7:48pm
therabbitinthehat wrote: Mon 19 Jul 2021 7:39pm more chance Kent will be dropped than Butler IMO
Kent should be left out. Terrible game can’t remember a positive from him.
That and injuries the only reason Butler says
As Cornes just said on FC ....Butlers playing like a millionaire and his inability to do the team thing when needed is deplorable
He’s extremely lucky Dan soon as Higgins ok he oughta go


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Teflon wrote: Mon 19 Jul 2021 11:49pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 19 Jul 2021 7:48pm
therabbitinthehat wrote: Mon 19 Jul 2021 7:39pm more chance Kent will be dropped than Butler IMO
Kent should be left out. Terrible game can’t remember a positive from him.
That and injuries the only reason Butler says
As Cornes just said on FC ....Butlers playing like a millionaire and his inability to do the team thing when needed is deplorable
He’s extremely lucky Dan soon as Higgins ok he oughta go
Yep, Butler needs to sometimes just take possession of the ball and wear a tackle to win a stoppage. His pokes and taps more often than not end up as an easy rebound for the opposition. Win a stoppage and we have the ruckman to take advantage.


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Lonie. Yeah where does he play?
Not as good as Butler or Long. Too soft, one sided and too slow. He will be delisted at the end of the year.


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Out: Highmore , McKenzie (inj)
In: Frawley (for Darling) and Coffield


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Re above: don't understand; Buddy is a millionaire but Butler rarely plays like him. Cornesy must be mistaking him for someone else. Is Mav Weller independently wealthy?

Big outs for us, DMac and Highmore were big part of our flickering resurgence (now puffed out).

Interesting to me that despite all our false starts and injuries we are still considered a sneaky chance at Fortress Perth Stadium. Testament to our flaky mercurial form. If North can do it why not us.....well let me count the ways.

Should get a good price though because we only seem to win when Hill and Dunstan play well, King kicks 3 and stops the defenders from clearing at will and Butler makes the tackle of a mega rich mogul in goal square. A good indicator will be if Coffield looks proactive and confident. There's a same game multi. Saver on Eagles by 36.


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Teflon wrote: Mon 19 Jul 2021 11:49pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 19 Jul 2021 7:48pm
therabbitinthehat wrote: Mon 19 Jul 2021 7:39pm more chance Kent will be dropped than Butler IMO
Kent should be left out. Terrible game can’t remember a positive from him.
That and injuries the only reason Butler says
As Cornes just said on FC ....Butlers playing like a millionaire and his inability to do the team thing when needed is deplorable
He’s extremely lucky Dan soon as Higgins ok he oughta go
A mate who follows the Tigers reckons Butler was playing better footy at the Tigers when he got dropped to VFL


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spert wrote: Tue 20 Jul 2021 9:46am
Teflon wrote: Mon 19 Jul 2021 11:49pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 19 Jul 2021 7:48pm
therabbitinthehat wrote: Mon 19 Jul 2021 7:39pm more chance Kent will be dropped than Butler IMO
Kent should be left out. Terrible game can’t remember a positive from him.
That and injuries the only reason Butler says
As Cornes just said on FC ....Butlers playing like a millionaire and his inability to do the team thing when needed is deplorable
He’s extremely lucky Dan soon as Higgins ok he oughta go
A mate who follows the Tigers reckons Butler was playing better footy at the Tigers when he got dropped to VFL
No doubt.
But that’s the state we are in. Just have to pick the best available. Do you bowl the guy who will give us four wides an over, or six?

I suspect they’ll play Kent yet again. Perhaps Lonie. Bytel? If Zac’s hammies are holding out? Frawley is 193cm but he is built like Leigh Mathews and can tackle (could?) the big fellas. He’s like a lighthouse. Highmore has a more regular physique. Maybe, who knows, he could play a game similar to the way the Wakelin twins did, which was very effective.


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https://www.saints.com.au/news/983035/i ... s-round-19


"Nick Coffield, Oscar Clavarino, James Frawley, Matthew Allison and mid-season recruit Cooper Sharman joined the Saints’ travelling party west along with Round 18 emergencies Jack Lonie, Jack Bytel and Paul Hunter.

Co-captain Jarryn Geary, Hunter Clark, Dan Hannebery, Jade Gresham, Jack Higgins, Josh Battle, Mason Wood, Jake Carlisle, Darragh Joyce, Sam Alabakis and Max Heath remain in Victoria alongside McKenzie and Highmore.

The club will undertake a seven-day quarantine under strict Western Australian State Government restrictions before its Round 19 fixture next Saturday night."


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Post: # 1915407Post Beno88 »

The only change I'm hoping to see is St Kilda not losing two in a row for the first time in 2021.


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Beno88 wrote: Tue 20 Jul 2021 1:18pm The only change I'm hoping to see is St Kilda not losing two in a row for the first time in 2021.
Going to be a big ask now without Marshall. Eagles at home are bloody hard to beat at the best of times, don't like our chances in this one :(


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