Joyce

[ace]

Joyce has had 2 games in a row.
But has he done enough with McKenzie and probably Frawley asking to be let back into the team defence ?
Carlisle and Long in the bad books but wanting to play in defence too.

[mad saint guy]

He was okay against the Hawks. Seems like he's a solid enough option to fill in when there's a suitable matchup but I doubt he'll ever be best 22. You'd want more rebound/interceptions from a quality third tall

[Crossy66]

Great to see him get an opportunity.Has some good attributes, but he seems to misread the ball in the air, so will struggle taking the tall, marking forwards.

[SaintPav]

I could be wrong about this but I think that the plan is that Frawley will replace him over the next few weeks which should allow Howard more freedom.

[Gershwin]

I could be wrong about this but I think that the plan is that Frawley will replace him over the next few weeks which should allow Howard more freedom.

I think you are spot-on.

[bangaulegend]

He has been ok but IMO not in our best 22 back up at best

[shanegrambeau]

For some reason I like him, but is there an obvious advantage he has over Oscar Clavarino?

Joyce 195cm
Clav 197 cm

I realise that Joyce is listed as 195kg (430 lbs) on Wikipedia and that’s pretty remarkable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darragh_Joyce

[Trev from the Bush]

Calming influence yesterday, kept his cool at all times.

[Yorkeys]

Actually looks ok from close to me. Good size, athletic, brave, hard at it. Will improve with the run and confidence of playing in a winning side. Obviously the office junior in defence but held his own and complimented others I thought. Hope he gets a fair crack. Will certainly put pressure on Highmore, Long and McKenzie to find/maintain form and at a stretch could be a swingman. Glad he was preferred to Wood, but noting one's a specialist forward of course.

[whiskers3614]

I could be wrong about this but I think that the plan is that Frawley will replace him over the next few weeks which should allow Howard more freedom.

So is Carlisle officially finished, or just down on form?

[saynta]

Injured, i believe

[SaintPav]

I could be wrong about this but I think that the plan is that Frawley will replace him over the next few weeks which should allow Howard more freedom.

So is Carlisle officially finished, or just down on form?

Not sure but it’s not looking good for him. Time will tell.

[The Billings Method]

I'm glad he gets 2 games in a row. Just to be sure, to be sure.

[CQ SAINT]

What's going on with Carlisle doesn't matter. Everyone will draw their own conclusions anyway, if he plays and plays well he is a gun, if he plays and doesn't play well he has an attitude problem, if he doesn't play he is falling out of favour. Reports say he has had back spasms.
What does matter is who is going to be a 2nd key defender if Carlisle isn't.
As the tallest of the bunch, I dont think it will be Clavarino. As the most experienced you'd think it will be Frawley when he comes back.
Battle has the skills but seems destined to be a third tall, back up KPD, swing man.
We desperately need to free up Wilkie a little but for now he will have to do.
Webster is too small and Highmore has a bit to learn.
Joyce has done ok.

[saintkev]

Joyce is heaps better than Carlisle. He runs, chases, tackles, hits the ball hard. His body language suggests aggression and desire. He doesn’t spit the dummy and point the finger like Carlisle. In short, he has a red-hot go! He’s learning and will only get better.

[skeptic]

I’d like to see him line up against a quality opponent in a tough match where we’re not on top from the start and beat him

The idea of Joyce in a final... at this stage, frankly scares me

[SaintPav]

I’d like to see him line up against a quality opponent in a tough match where we’re not on top from the start and beat him

The idea of Joyce in a final... at this stage, frankly scares me

What about one on one in the goal square in a grand final with 30 sec to go. We’re 5 points up.

[avid]

I like his effort and his attitude.
Several moments yesterday found him wanting in the skills and reading-the-play departments.

[skeptic]

The match report at Sandy has Highmore dominating to half time. TBH... given Tom’s upside, personally I’d prefer to pump the games into him with the view of developing him over the longer term

[saynta]

What's going on with Carlisle doesn't matter. Everyone will draw their own conclusions anyway, if he plays and plays well he is a gun, if he plays and doesn't play well he has an attitude problem, if he doesn't play he is falling out of favour. Reports say he has had back spasms.
What does matter is who is going to be a 2nd key defender if Carlisle isn't.
As the tallest of the bunch, I dont think it will be Clavarino. As the most experienced you'd think it will be Frawley when he comes back.
Battle has the skills but seems destined to be a third tall, back up KPD, swing man.
We desperately need to free up Wilkie a little but for now he will have to do.
Webster is too small and Highmore has a bit to learn.
Joyce has done ok.

[Otiman]

Plays like a small defender, could he be first choice on the small forwards? Benefit is that he won't be outreached in the air, and can compete on the inevitable mismatch.

[kosifantutti]

I’d like to see him line up against a quality opponent in a tough match where we’re not on top from the start and beat him

The idea of Joyce in a final... at this stage, frankly scares me

What about one on one in the goal square in a grand final with 30 sec to go. We’re 5 points up.

He’d mark the ball and kick it to himself five times before kicking it through from 60.

[Waltzing St Kilda]

Diodn't do much wrong. Give him some more games.

[Wayne42]

He did his job, hope he plays against the Coasters.

Looking forward to the Ming v Bing shootout.

[B.M]

He’s very average