2019 Draft

[Impatient Sainter]

It's interesting that a number of other clubs are madly trying to trade up to hold earlier picks in this draft. Yet we elected to basically trade out of the draft. I read on BF from a number of posters that our Recruiters didnt rate this draft as highly as others.

I am happy with who we traded in and those players can only lift our list standards and experience. Obviously other clubs lists are in different transitions, but I wonder given the other clubs approaches to this draft, if our recruiters are trying to get back into the 1st or 2nd rounds?

We have Clark & Bytel to develop as quality midfielders but we still desperately need a number of high quality/ elite midfielders to come through. Perhaps Brad Crouch is on our radar as a 'free agent' next year, which would help enormously.

[Sombersainter]

Please, not "blah blah, the elite midfielder is on our radar for next year as a free agent " talk.

[Impatient Sainter]

Please, not "blah blah, the elite midfielder is on our radar for next year as a free agent " talk.

Its been stated before but the club has an entirely new look under Ratten and we know the Crouch's management approached the club mid year. He wanted a deal we couldn't accomodate then (draft picks) - but why wouldnt we be a chance of grabbing him next year as a free agent if he was happy to leave?

[Impatient Sainter]

Comments by Liam Pickering regarding next years draft -

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/11/18/ ... r-manager/

[diddley]

It's interesting that a number of other clubs are madly trying to trade up to hold earlier picks in this draft. Yet we elected to basically trade out of the draft. I read on BF from a number of posters that our Recruiters didnt rate this draft as highly as others.

I am happy with who we traded in and those players can only lift our list standards and experience. Obviously other clubs lists are in different transitions, but I wonder given the other clubs approaches to this draft, if our recruiters are trying to get back into the 1st or 2nd rounds? .

Basically, the (very) early call is that next years draft is thinner than this years. This year has not been rated highly (beyond picks 1&2). Last years top 8 or so was rated supremely high.

Swapping picks is to do with what the specific club wants out of it. Each club runs on their own plan, pick swapping helps achieve that. We elected to get out of this year.
The Giants want to land Green, plus another top pick (as they have done before) because they have their plan and this is the way to achieve it.
The Power want to rebuild with 6 x first round picks in 2 years (2018-2019) they were able to achieve it this way.

We have no ability to get back into this year, outside of round 4 or so. We can’t touch the 2020 first round, as we have used other rounds.

[saynta]

Correct diddley.

[B.M]

As a player manager, Pickering would have a good idea, as he wants good players business.

He’d be scouting them out from 15yo

[Impatient Sainter]

It's interesting that a number of other clubs are madly trying to trade up to hold earlier picks in this draft. Yet we elected to basically trade out of the draft. I read on BF from a number of posters that our Recruiters didnt rate this draft as highly as others.

I am happy with who we traded in and those players can only lift our list standards and experience. Obviously other clubs lists are in different transitions, but I wonder given the other clubs approaches to this draft, if our recruiters are trying to get back into the 1st or 2nd rounds? .

Basically, the (very) early call is that next years draft is thinner than this years. This year has not been rated highly (beyond picks 1&2). Last years top 8 or so was rated supremely high.

Swapping picks is to do with what the specific club wants out of it. Each club runs on their own plan, pick swapping helps achieve that. We elected to get out of this year.
The Giants want to land Green, plus another top pick (as they have done before) because they have their plan and this is the way to achieve it.
The Power want to rebuild with 6 x first round picks in 2 years (2018-2019) they were able to achieve it this way.

We have no ability to get back into this year, outside of round 4 or so. We can’t touch the 2020 first round, as we have used other rounds.

True.

I thought we had more draft picks available next year, but looking further I found we only have our 1st round and 2 x 4th picks left. I cant remember the last draft we had a 2nd round pick in?

[ausfatcat]

Some of the clubs are trading due to aced my picks, GWS for example needed pick 4 due to the potential their academy pick being taken at 5. so they wanted to use a 2st rnd plus get their academy, in effect going up the draft gave them a extra first round pick.

The fact gws and Sydney keep getting top 10 picks year after year through their academy's is disgraceful.

[Secret Kiel]

As a player manager, Pickering would have a good idea, as he wants good players business.

He’d be scouting them out from 15yo

I'll bet you he's still got his fingers in all the Pies, serves himself very well to scoop up a high volume of kids in a supposed "weak" draft.

[Impatient Sainter]

HERALDSUN.COM.AU ›

Melbourne’s No.3 the best pick in this year’s AFL draft, history shows.

Melbourne holds the best pick in this year’s AFL draft according to recent history, with pick 3 proving a more successful selection over the past decade than the two picks ahead of it.

A Herald Sun analysis of the first 60 selections at each of the past 10 national drafts shows that players selected at pick 3 have played more games than those selected at any other number.

Richmond star and Brownlow medallist Dustin Martin was taken at pick 3 in 2009 and has played 224 games – more than any other player in his draft pool.

Other players selected at No.3 include Melbourne’s Angus Brayshaw, St Kilda’s Jack Billings, Sydney’s Callum Mills and Brisbane’s Hugh McCluggage.

Overall, players selected at pick 3 in the draft have played 914 games over the past decade.

Players taken at pick 5 – including Collingwood’s Jordan De Goey, Essendon’s Jake Stringer and North Melbourne’s Ben Cunnington – rank second for total games played with 851.

Pick 14 – held by Geelong this year – has surprisingly proven to be the third-best pick with 846 games. Players recruited there including West Coast’s Lewis Jetta, Adelaide’s Brodie Smith, Melbourne’s Jake Lever and Brisbane’s Eric Hipwood.

The No.1 selection ranks fourth with 838 games and includes Hawthorn’s Tom Scully, Gold Coast’s David Swallow, Giant Lachie Whitfield and Carlton’s Sam Walsh. But unfortunate setbacks to No.1 picks Paddy McCartin, Tom Boyd and Jonathon Patton have impacted the average.

Overall, players taken inside the top 30 at the draft have played more than twice as many games on average as those taken between picks 31 and 60.

Dustin Martin was selected at pick 3 in the 2009 draft. Picture: Mark Stewart

“The first two rounds are important to get picks right for a club because that’s where the talent is,” former Hawthorn recruiter Gary Buckenara said.

“The depth in this draft is pretty good and goes into the third round but after that, that’s where the eye for talent comes in.

“You’ve just got to look at where the upside might be with players. You’ve got to look into the crystal ball and see what they might look like in an AFL system in two or three years’ time.”

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Pick 26 – held by North Melbourne this year – has proven to be one of the best bang-for-buck selections for clubs, ranking ninth for games played.

Melbourne’s Jack Viney, Essendon’s Zach Merrett and West Coast’s Jack Darling were all taken at pick 26.

Clubs have also found some diamonds in the rough at pick 58, which punches above its weight ranking 33rd overall and includes players like Brisbane’s Lachie Neale, Giant Matt De Boer and Collingwood’s Tom Phillips.

Magpie Tom Phillips was a draft bargain at pick 58. Picture: Michael Klein

Of the first-round selections, No.12 has proven the biggest bust, ranking 40th for games played.

Players taken at pick 12 include former Melbourne-listed forward Lucas Cook (0 game), former Greater Western Sydney and Carlton forward Kristian Jaksch (14 games) and former Richmond forward Ben Lennon (21 games).

Port Adelaide has pick 12 this year.

BEST 5 DRAFT PICKS (2009-18)

Pick 3 – 914 AFL games played

Pick 5 – 851 AFL games played

Pick 14 – 846 AFL games played

Pick 1 – 838 AFL games played

Pick 7 – 837 AFL games played

WORST 5 DRAFT PICKS (2009-18)

Pick 50 – 96 AFL games played

Pick 51 – 129 AFL games played

Pick 39 – 132 AFL games played

Pick 59 – 159 AFL games played

Pick 36 – 177 AFL games played

BEST VALUE DRAFT PICKS (2009-18)

Pick 58 – ranked 33rd for games played

Pick 40 – ranked 22nd for games played

Pick 53 – ranked 35th for games played

Pick 26 – ranked 9th for games played

Pick 37 – ranked 20th for games played

[Devilhead]

Ok Jaxons ..... who are we looking at with our picks?