GT again....this time on Milney...

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He's gone, move on.


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Face wrote:And so it starts.

All too predictable.


If making a negative comment about a player or the club means you "don't love the club", then I would suggest most here "love" St Kilda as much as Collingwood supporters. :roll:
Yes how true. We are allowed to say anything negative we want. Just look here on Sunday if we lose but another supporter who is actually paid to comment should either lie about Milney or say no comment. What a lot of crap.


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Post: # 940132Post gringo »

Milne hasn't been great in finals or interstate over the years but they correspond to when the whole team wasn't great in finals or interstate.

Small forwards often struggle in finals because they rely on loose ball usually and a bit of space. Milne also struggles early in games when his man is checking closely. This doesn't tend to drop off in finals. I can't think of too many small forwards that consistently score heavily in finals. The odd game stands out but not big bags over several weeks of the finals. Maybe coaches should have a plan where two players shepherd for each other creating space then guys like Milne, Didak, Davis etc. would really take on games.

Where was GTs planning to release Milney?


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markp wrote: Pretend laughter and feigned 'amusement' aside, he takes it all quite personally... which, if he is not GT or closely related to GT, is very sad.
Well I don't know. Some posters here seem to think RF is actually GT, even though RF has denied it.

But your point seems valid. The frenzied defence, not just in this case, but seemingly of all things GT, is quite curious.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm :wink:


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Post: # 940144Post Saints43 »

gringo wrote:Milne hasn't been great in finals or interstate over the years but they correspond to when the whole team wasn't great in finals or interstate.
St Kilda's interstate finals:

Brisbane 2004 Lost 80 points
Port Adelaide 2004 Lost 6 points
Adelaide 2005 Won 8 points

They got smashed in Brisbane but were excellent in the Adelaide finals. Milne was poor in all three.

IMO RL has improved the Saints interstate performances significantly from the GT days and I think the knock on Milne interstate remains. And in finals.

But, I agree with those who question the timing of the spray. It's not wrong but it's mean spirited considering what a great achievement 200 games is.


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gringo wrote:Milne hasn't been great in finals or interstate over the years but they correspond to when the whole team wasn't great in finals or interstate.
Not true. Milne has also been crap in finals and interstate games when the whole team has done well: the 2005 game against Adelaide to which GT referred is a good example.

I'd be interested in knowing how many of his 400 goals were scored at the Dome: I'd suspect well over 300 of them.

Some players are criticised for being only good in the wet, or only good when they aren't tagged. Milne is a player who has consistently only performed well at one particular stadium.

I feel that, in the interstate games he's played so far in 2010, this hasn't been as much the case as it once was. He wasn't among the worst at AAMI and was one of our best against the Eagles at Subi. So perhaps he's begun to turn a corner at long last.


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Post: # 940149Post degruch »

fingers wrote:
Moccha wrote:I think there's an ulterior motive in the article
Which is?
Firing him up by questioning his interstate/finals performances. Milney will be thanking GT when he kicks 5 against Freo.


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Post: # 940150Post milney044 »

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gringo wrote:Milne hasn't been great in finals or interstate over the years but they correspond to when the whole team wasn't great in finals or interstate.
St Kilda's interstate finals:

Brisbane 2004 Lost 80 points
Port Adelaide 2004 Lost 6 points
Adelaide 2005 Won 8 points

They got smashed in Brisbane but were excellent in the Adelaide finals. Milne was poor in all three.

IMO RL has improved the Saints interstate performances significantly from the GT days and I think the knock on Milne interstate remains. And in finals.

But, I agree with those who question the timing of the spray. It's not wrong but it's mean spirited considering what a great achievement 200 games is.
LOL Milne wasn't even playing in the final against Brisbane!

Stick it up GT anyway Milnedog, I think he's a little confused as to who has the self esteem issues, GT has got issues and a some insecurities it would seem.. i know who i'd prefer to still have at the club.


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Post: # 940151Post markp »

degruch wrote:Milney will be thanking GT when he kicks 5 against Freo.
He wont need to.


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milney044 wrote:
Saints43 wrote:
gringo wrote:Milne hasn't been great in finals or interstate over the years but they correspond to when the whole team wasn't great in finals or interstate.
St Kilda's interstate finals:

Brisbane 2004 Lost 80 points
Port Adelaide 2004 Lost 6 points
Adelaide 2005 Won 8 points

They got smashed in Brisbane but were excellent in the Adelaide finals. Milne was poor in all three.

IMO RL has improved the Saints interstate performances significantly from the GT days and I think the knock on Milne interstate remains. And in finals.

But, I agree with those who question the timing of the spray. It's not wrong but it's mean spirited considering what a great achievement 200 games is.
LOL Milne wasn't even playing in the final against Brisbane!

Stick it up GT anyway Milnedog, I think he's a little confused as to who has the self esteem issues, GT has got issues and a some insecurities it would seem.. i know who i'd prefer to still have at the club.
You are correct. My memories of him from all three matches are the same.


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Post: # 940153Post gringo »

I seem to remember Milne playing as a mini full forward early on and I think at some stage he held the record for set shot conversion? If so he is an odd player in that he started as a set shot specialist and now a bulk of the goals come from grubbers and opportunist type goals.


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Post: # 940154Post Moods »

plugger66 wrote:
Face wrote:And so it starts.

All too predictable.


If making a negative comment about a player or the club means you "don't love the club", then I would suggest most here "love" St Kilda as much as Collingwood supporters. :roll:
Yes how true. We are allowed to say anything negative we want. Just look here on Sunday if we lose but another supporter who is actually paid to comment should either lie about Milney or say no comment. What a lot of crap.
You miss the point plugger. People carping away on here after a game hardly goes out to the mass public. Also how many ppl on here decided NOW was the time, on the eve of his 200th game, to come out and point out all of Milney's deficiencies? There is a way of pointing out someone's faults without running the person down - particularly when celebrating ones achievements. I cannot think of one former coach who would have publicly denigrated a former player on the eve of his 200th. Leigh Matthews who is very straight fwd with his views certainly wouldn't have. Most media types have more class. Sometimes I wonder if this is why the media go running to GT - not b/c of his honesty, but b/c they know they'll get a headline b/c his comments will lack taste.

I find it staggering as well that GT would hold this opinion of Milne considering that half those games would have been whilst he was coach. If GT thought he was so crap he shouldn't have kept selecting him. How weak is that? RL had the balls to drop him, and the class to celebrate his achievement. All GT does is provide more fodder for the Milne half wit haters out there.


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Post: # 940155Post degruch »

markp wrote:
degruch wrote:Milney will be thanking GT when he kicks 5 against Freo.
He wont need to.
He's going to kick 6?


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Post: # 940162Post Face »

Moods wrote:All GT does is provide more fodder for the Milne half wit haters out there.
He provides plenty for the GT "half wit haters" too. :lol:


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Post: # 940163Post saintly »

markp wrote:
degruch wrote:Milney will be thanking GT when he kicks 5 against Freo.
He wont need to.
gt will then be thanking himself, saying what a good job i did by getting milne all fired up.

and if he has 0 goals it will be , see i told you so.

you can't win either way.


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Post: # 940164Post rodgerfox »

joffaboy wrote:
But your point seems valid. The frenzied defence, not just in this case, but seemingly of all things GT, is quite curious.
Frenzied defence?? That's funny.

I'd like you to show me where I've ever 'defended' GT, let alone in a 'frenzied' state.


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Post: # 940168Post IluvHarvey »

Every football fan in Victoria knows what GT thinks about Milne. Right or Wrong thats how it is. I believe it is poor form for the journalist who also knows this and then goes and seeks an opinion. What is GT going to do? Lie?


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Post: # 940171Post mullet »

Moccha wrote:I think there's an ulterior motive in the article
Yes I reckon he was really firing Milney up as well. If he didnt mean to well I reckon it will anyway


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Post: # 940172Post markp »

IluvHarvey wrote:What is GT going to do?
Show some class?

Resist the urge to be an attention whore, just this once?


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markp wrote:
IluvHarvey wrote:What is GT going to do?
Show some class?

Resist the urge to be an attention whore, just this once?

I think any footy 'commentator' should be professional and give honest views on all footy topics and players - regardless of whom they are or are about.

It actually disgusts me how the AFL media lack so chronically in integrity in this regard.


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curious indeed! 8-) :lol:


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Re: GT again....this time on Milney...

Post: # 940176Post Mr Magic »

rodgerfox wrote:
mr magic wrote:i wish the press would stop asking him already.
Ha!

Why would they? Every time he wipes his date down instead of up a 5 page thread appears on here about it!

Even linked to the newspapers in question!
Have you stooped so low in your agenda driven drivel that you're now resorting to fabricating quotes from other posters?

Please show me in this thread where I posted the comment you have quoted as coming from me?

Please also show any post from me in this thread prior to this.

Your fabricated quote of me confirms that you are a LIAR.


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Re: GT again....this time on Milney...

Post: # 940177Post rodgerfox »

Mr Magic wrote:
rodgerfox wrote:
mr magic wrote:i wish the press would stop asking him already.
Ha!

Why would they? Every time he wipes his date down instead of up a 5 page thread appears on here about it!

Even linked to the newspapers in question!
Have you stooped so low in your agenda driven drivel that you're now resorting to fabricating quotes from other posters?

Please show me in this thread where I posted the comment you have quoted as coming from me?

Please also show any post from me in this thread prior to this.

Your fabricated quote of me confirms that you are a LIAR.

No, you're just quick with the Delete button.

Maybe you forgot you even posted it. Senility's a bitch ey?


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Re: GT again....this time on Milney...

Post: # 940182Post Mr Magic »

rodgerfox wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:
rodgerfox wrote:
mr magic wrote:i wish the press would stop asking him already.
Ha!

Why would they? Every time he wipes his date down instead of up a 5 page thread appears on here about it!

Even linked to the newspapers in question!
Have you stooped so low in your agenda driven drivel that you're now resorting to fabricating quotes from other posters?

Please show me in this thread where I posted the comment you have quoted as coming from me?



Please also show any post from me in this thread prior to this.

Your fabricated quote of me confirms that you are a LIAR.

No, you're just quick with the Delete button.

Maybe you forgot you even posted it. Senility's a bitch ey?



YOU ARE A LIAR!

I categorically had not posted in this thread.
You've either made the quote up or quoted someone else.


Withdraw the comment and edit your fabricated post.


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Post: # 940184Post saintsRrising »

cowboy18 wrote:He's gone, move on.
Damn...when did Milney go????? :cry:


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