Yeah he does look a bit like Chapman, however I think he will end up a full time midfielder after a few years in the forward line, from the day we drafted him I've had the best feeling about him coming good, and his one game has done nothing to extinguish that...saintsRrising wrote:Thanks for the report.
IIRC when recruited the write-up at the time when comparing him to an existing AFL player compared him to Chapman.Spinner wrote:
Steven in the forward group.
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How so?chook23 wrote:if that was the case, way off the mark IMHOsaintsRrising wrote:Thanks for the report.
IIRC when recruited the write-up at the time when comparing him to an existing AFL player compared him to Chapman.Spinner wrote:
Steven in the forward group.
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build/marking ability for size/Armoooo wrote:How so?chook23 wrote:if that was the case, way off the mark IMHOsaintsRrising wrote:Thanks for the report.
IIRC when recruited the write-up at the time when comparing him to an existing AFL player compared him to Chapman.Spinner wrote:
Steven in the forward group.
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Four letters too long?jk23 wrote:If only kosi's name was shorter i would have it tattooed!! :wink:saintdooley wrote:training was good overall
there was more talking than work done, but they made up for it at the end by signing everything for everyone.
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Would be happy if he ended up as good as either of them TBH but I see a bit more of Chapman in him, his goal sense, body type, skills... he seems like the sort of player who's 20 touches can be worth 35 to most players...Dr Spaceman wrote:IIRC he was compared to another cat, Jimmy Bartel.saintsRrising wrote:Thanks for the report.
IIRC when recruited the write-up at the time when comparing him to an existing AFL player compared him to Chapman.Spinner wrote:
Steven in the forward group.
I think he is a pretty similar player to Dangerfield from Adelaide, I will watch both these players develop with interest...
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At the moment I see him as a small/medium who is a capable VFL playerArmoooo wrote:Would be happy if he ended up as good as either of them TBH but I see a bit more of Chapman in him, his goal sense, body type, skills... he seems like the sort of player who's 20 touches can be worth 35 to most players...Dr Spaceman wrote:IIRC he was compared to another cat, Jimmy Bartel.saintsRrising wrote:Thanks for the report.
IIRC when recruited the write-up at the time when comparing him to an existing AFL player compared him to Chapman.Spinner wrote:
Steven in the forward group.
I think he is a pretty similar player to Dangerfield from Adelaide, I will watch both these players develop with interest...
who had a sniff................
chapman/bartel etc wishful thinking......
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The Chapman & Bartel comments were simply recollections of what was said by others at the time he was drafted. However at the end of the day it really means nothing.chook23 wrote:At the moment I see him as a small/medium who is a capable VFL playerArmoooo wrote:Would be happy if he ended up as good as either of them TBH but I see a bit more of Chapman in him, his goal sense, body type, skills... he seems like the sort of player who's 20 touches can be worth 35 to most players...Dr Spaceman wrote:IIRC he was compared to another cat, Jimmy Bartel.saintsRrising wrote:Thanks for the report.
IIRC when recruited the write-up at the time when comparing him to an existing AFL player compared him to Chapman.Spinner wrote:
Steven in the forward group.
I think he is a pretty similar player to Dangerfield from Adelaide, I will watch both these players develop with interest...
who had a sniff................
chapman/bartel etc wishful thinking......
time will tell
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Players always get compared to AFL stars. Nobody ever says that a prospect is the next Sean Dempster. It's also very common for Falcons players to get compared to Cats players. Steven is closer in size to Chapman than Bartel, and if you look at his last year of junior, his numbers were very Chapman-like (except that Chapman converts better). 15 games, 20 touches a game, 17goals, 20 behinds, 20 score assists playing forward and midfield. The comparison makes sense, whether or not Steven winds up as good as Chapman.chook23 wrote:chapman/bartel etc wishful thinking......
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Surely people who say he is like Chapman are joking. He cannot mark over head and doesnt have his goal sense. he is nothing like Chapman or Bartel because he isnt a marking player. He is more of a Lenny Hayes type than either of those especially if he gets his fitness up which has improved considerably this season.vacuous space wrote:Players always get compared to AFL stars. Nobody ever says that a prospect is the next Sean Dempster. It's also very common for Falcons players to get compared to Cats players. Steven is closer in size to Chapman than Bartel, and if you look at his last year of junior, his numbers were very Chapman-like (except that Chapman converts better). 15 games, 20 touches a game, 17goals, 20 behinds, 20 score assists playing forward and midfield. The comparison makes sense, whether or not Steven winds up as good as Chapman.chook23 wrote:chapman/bartel etc wishful thinking......
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Please don't get above yourself, yes he can kick lace out to a running player and yes he can mark with clean hands...(judging by today's public try out)bigred wrote:
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It was...plugger66 wrote:Surely people who say he is like Chapman are joking. He cannot mark over head and doesnt have his goal sense. he is nothing like Chapman or Bartel because he isnt a marking player. He is more of a Lenny Hayes type than either of those especially if he gets his fitness up which has improved considerably this season.vacuous space wrote:Players always get compared to AFL stars. Nobody ever says that a prospect is the next Sean Dempster. It's also very common for Falcons players to get compared to Cats players. Steven is closer in size to Chapman than Bartel, and if you look at his last year of junior, his numbers were very Chapman-like (except that Chapman converts better). 15 games, 20 touches a game, 17goals, 20 behinds, 20 score assists playing forward and midfield. The comparison makes sense, whether or not Steven winds up as good as Chapman.chook23 wrote:chapman/bartel etc wishful thinking......
Forget about looking at body shapes, look at the way they play.
The comment was comparing both as juniors as VS stated....as was made by someone who had good junior knowledge of both.
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Awesome photos and reports guys. Makes you realise this really is the highest level of this sport,,,this is January!
Was intending to be there but for various reasons couldn't be....
D'OH!
Any other open training sessions coming up? I'll have to wait 'til the intra-club (Feb 12th?).
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D'OH!
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I Love Peter Kiel wrote:Awesome photos and reports guys. Makes you realise this really is the highest level of this sport,,,this is January!
Was intending to be there but for various reasons couldn't be....
D'OH!
Any other open training sessions coming up? I'll have to wait 'til the intra-club (Feb 12th?).
http://www.saints.com.au/season2009/new ... fault.aspxThe club will advise details for our next open training session shortly and will publish this on the website, Facebook and Twitter.
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The comparison was Steven as a junior to Chapman as a senior. Draft people always link junior players to AFL stars. Matt Burgan compared Farren Ray to Simon Black. Every decent medium half forward gets linked to Ryan O'Keefe. It doesn't mean much of anything.saintsRrising wrote:The comment was comparing both as juniors as VS stated...
Given Steven was a Geelong forward/midfielder who got a lot of ball, kicked goals and set up a lot of scores, it's a fairly obvious comparison, even if plugger66 doesn't like it. I don't think anyone was saying that Steven's a carbon copy of Paul Chapman. If he was, he wouldn't have lasted to pick 42.
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I wasnt saying he was or wasnt a carbon copy of Chapman. He actually plays nothing like him now and i am not sure as a junior he took marks like him either. By the way how many goals did he get in his year at the Falcans? Anyway who cares what he was like as a junior. Now he is nothing like Chapman or Bartel and as I said he is much more like Hayes than either of those 2.vacuous space wrote:The comparison was Steven as a junior to Chapman as a senior. Draft people always link junior players to AFL stars. Matt Burgan compared Farren Ray to Simon Black. Every decent medium half forward gets linked to Ryan O'Keefe. It doesn't mean much of anything.saintsRrising wrote:The comment was comparing both as juniors as VS stated...
Given Steven was a Geelong forward/midfielder who got a lot of ball, kicked goals and set up a lot of scores, it's a fairly obvious comparison, even if plugger66 doesn't like it. I don't think anyone was saying that Steven's a carbon copy of Paul Chapman. If he was, he wouldn't have lasted to pick 42.