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Re: Assistant Coaches

Post: # 1922403Post Waltzing St Kilda »

Yorkeys wrote: Mon 23 Aug 2021 8:49pm Did the breathing exercises not work?
Considering the number of significant leads we coughed up, the number of times we faded in last quarters after synchronised breathing, and the number of times we didn't show up at all mentally, i'd say yeah, the headshrinkery didn't count for much.


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Post: # 1922404Post IluvHarvey »

Someone sign Justin Leppitsch up!
The guy knows his stuff.


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Post: # 1922407Post asiu »

but they 'centred themselves' at 3/4 time
'n kicked 7 straight

headshinkery indeed

practice softly focussing on your out breath
for a week
'n improving its execution

then it will be an actual experience
you could discourse on


don't be worrying about your in breath
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Post: # 1922410Post Waltzing St Kilda »

Can't believe there are blokes on here defending the synchronised breathing malarkey.

No other club does it and Brad Johnson for one said he'd be embarrassed if he was forced to do it.

Considering there's zero evidence that's effective -- in fact, quite the opposite (considering our performance this year) -- then ditch it.

Do a motivational speech instead. Do stretches. Do anything.


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Worked in 2020

But not in 2021

Is that right?? it only works if they win?!


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Motivational speech?!

I hardly ever listened to them, honestly could barely remember the coaches rants.


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Post: # 1922415Post Waltzing St Kilda »

Then do nothing.

Combined with pre-match meditating, the cuddle toom where players hug each other and tell each other they'e got their backs, and the synchronised breathing perfomative art, I say the club is in the thrall of new age snake oil salesmen.

Ever seen THE NATURAL? The baseball club hires a hupnotist who compels the team to imagine the game and Robert Redford gets up and walks out. As he should.

Can you imagine this sort of nonsense going on under Clarko or Ross Lyon?


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Waltzing St Kilda wrote: Mon 23 Aug 2021 10:52pm Then do nothing.

Combined with pre-match meditating, the cuddle toom where players hug each other and tell each other they'e got their backs, and the synchronised breathing perfomative art, I say the club is in the thrall of new age snake oil salesmen.

Ever seen THE NATURAL? The baseball club hires a hupnotist who compels the team to imagine the game and Robert Redford gets up and walks out. As he should.

Can you imagine this sort of nonsense going on under Clarko or Ross Lyon?
I don't have a problem with it at all


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Non issue for me

If it’s a trigger for them to relax and switch on mentally

Whatever works for them


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Post: # 1922420Post Wayne42 »

Clearly, if people don't understand something they see, they'll criticise it.


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Post: # 1922421Post Waltzing St Kilda »

You can say you don't care but I would argue that focusing on the head space and validating emotional responses has unintended consequences.

You end up with a team that's liable to not perform if it doesn't feel triggered. If everything isn't 100% simpatico.

Exhibit A. St Kilda. c**k of the walk one week, feather duster the next. Unable to string together more then three wins. Vulnerable to coughing up huge leads.


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Waltzing St Kilda wrote: Mon 23 Aug 2021 11:31pm You can say you don't care but I would argue that focusing on the head space and validating emotional responses has unintended consequences.

You end up with a team that's liable to not perform if it doesn't feel triggered. If everything isn't 100% simpatico.

Exhibit A. St Kilda. c**k of the walk one week, feather duster the next. Unable to string together more then three wins. Vulnerable to coughing up huge leads.
I think Richo had the team motivated in '15 until mid-'17. I think we did turn up and try hard every week regardless of the place and situation. Then something happened.

perhaps the team psych thing is a bit of a 'crap shoot'? And then the various personalities of the players..must play a role.


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CURLY wrote: Mon 23 Aug 2021 10:23am
Teflon wrote: Sun 22 Aug 2021 9:27pm
tony74 wrote: Sun 22 Aug 2021 9:25pmContracted
Shame if Lade is contracted cause I think he needs to go
Based on what?
Shyte form at Tigers
Had Long enough with us and if he was midfield coach this year enough games where we were chopped up badly


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whiskers3614 wrote: Mon 23 Aug 2021 1:33pm
Teflon wrote: Sun 22 Aug 2021 9:12pm
Waltzing St Kilda wrote: Sun 22 Aug 2021 8:50pm Lenny hayes.

Though he'll more likely be at Lyon's side guiding the Blues into a GF within two years.
That would seriously piss me off
you worried that Lyon will get another runners-up trophy?
Better than “GTs” trophy cabinet..


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Reported that Hamill and Skrobalak gone as assistant coaches as has fitness guru Hornsby.

Lade survives.AFL.com.au is the Tom Piper.


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damienc wrote: Tue 24 Aug 2021 1:30am Reported that Hamill and Skrobalak gone as assistant coaches as has fitness guru Hornsby.

Lade survives.AFL.com.au is the Tom Piper.
You're late to THIS party, buddy.
Announced early today


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Post: # 1922439Post minneapolis »

Teflon wrote: Sun 22 Aug 2021 9:12pm
Waltzing St Kilda wrote: Sun 22 Aug 2021 8:50pm Lenny hayes.

Though he'll more likely be at Lyon's side guiding the Blues into a GF within two years.
That would seriously piss me off
abs me too.


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Waltzing St Kilda wrote: Sun 22 Aug 2021 8:50pm Lenny hayes.

Though he'll more likely be at Lyon's side guiding the Blues into a GF within two years.
I thought Hayes left GWS for a tree change…


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Post: # 1922450Post CarlD »

axcellence wrote: Tue 24 Aug 2021 7:12am
Waltzing St Kilda wrote: Sun 22 Aug 2021 8:50pm Lenny hayes.

Though he'll more likely be at Lyon's side guiding the Blues into a GF within two years.
I thought Hayes left GWS for a tree change…
That was my recollection as well.


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Re: Assistant Coaches

Post: # 1922451Post Impatient Sainter »

From Stavro on BF -

We are apparently restructuring the fitness department. Wallis parted ways on good terms. Hornsby was let go.

The rumour I heard early this morning was Russell from Carlton to lead a restructured department.

Harvey isn’t coming for those wanting it.

Note: Andrew Russell is another of the staff who worked at Hawthorn throughout their golden era.


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Teflon wrote: Tue 24 Aug 2021 12:36am
whiskers3614 wrote: Mon 23 Aug 2021 1:33pm
Teflon wrote: Sun 22 Aug 2021 9:12pm
Waltzing St Kilda wrote: Sun 22 Aug 2021 8:50pm Lenny hayes.

Though he'll more likely be at Lyon's side guiding the Blues into a GF within two years.
That would seriously piss me off
you worried that Lyon will get another runners-up trophy?
Better than “GTs” trophy cabinet..
At least the office staff were unmolested during GT’s time.
All the love for the tosser is hard to understand!
77 more games and will pass Eade as the coach with most games without a flag, hope Carlton give him the four years required!


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Post: # 1922458Post outside66 »

Brendan Lade should be let go as well or at the very least re-deployed elsewhere as our midfield work was really poor this year. If we didn't have Steele then we would've been belted every week.


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Post: # 1922463Post IluvHarvey »

whiskers3614 wrote: Tue 24 Aug 2021 12:04pm
Teflon wrote: Tue 24 Aug 2021 12:36am
whiskers3614 wrote: Mon 23 Aug 2021 1:33pm
Teflon wrote: Sun 22 Aug 2021 9:12pm
Waltzing St Kilda wrote: Sun 22 Aug 2021 8:50pm Lenny hayes.

Though he'll more likely be at Lyon's side guiding the Blues into a GF within two years.
That would seriously piss me off
you worried that Lyon will get another runners-up trophy?
Better than “GTs” trophy cabinet..
At least the office staff were unmolested during GT’s time.
All the love for the tosser is hard to understand!
77 more games and will pass Eade as the coach with most games without a flag, hope Carlton give him the four years required!
For the love of god can we please not turn this thread about our current Assistant Coaches into another pi$$ing contest between Two coached who departed more than 10 years ago. It gets a bit boring after a while.


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Re: Assistant Coaches

Post: # 1922464Post Yorkeys »

Ratts did not seem to bring in his own team of assistants/medicos when he took over the job, many do.

Perhaps he did not want to rock the boat too much given the transition circumstances. Hope the new personnel and roles bear fruit.

I think more than hope they will now he has his own chosen crew to work with. Good to know the Club has had these moves in mind for a while and is acting quickly.

Lade to be reassigned?

Be interesting if the assistants and "high performance" manager stay in AFL if they want to.


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Post: # 1922466Post shanegrambeau »

IluvHarvey wrote: Tue 24 Aug 2021 1:22pm ....

For the love of god can we please not turn this thread about our current Assistant Coaches into another pi$$ing contest between Two coached who departed more than 10 years ago. .....

Mnnn...

...presses pause....

...but cannot resist the urge to say something about Lyon and GT.

Don't forget that GT was a caretaker...that actually worked!


Lyon is like Richard Nixon...the guy seems like a moaning and scheming demon ...can't do a thing right..

Look at Clarko..

have people already forgotten his bald faced lying to the media and fans?

Of course...he's a hero who has been hard done by..

Ross, on the other hand.


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