Where was Battle ALL DAY??????????Moods wrote: ↑Mon 07 Jun 2021 1:21amf*** all help all day? He plays as one of 3 key fwds. He should be helping the other key fwds. No one is expecting him to mark everything in sight, but if you listened to the criticism you would have picked up that he needs to get to more contests, and make a contest. Half hearted efforts in the air and generally even worse when the ball hits the ground.Teflon wrote: ↑Sun 06 Jun 2021 2:09pmThanks Dermott - it’s all weights and being “tough” like Wayne up forward......seriously 1970s thinking ...B.M wrote: ↑Sun 06 Jun 2021 1:17pm I’ll say it again, the best key forwards are peacocks
It’s more an attitudinal thing, which says - I’m the man and I’m better than you!!
From early ages, the best key forwards have swagger
Brereton, Carey, Brown, Reiwoldt, Fevola, Franklin, Walker the list goes on...
All great key forwards think they own the forward 50
Max doubts himself, it’s very obvious he lacks confidence and his hunched shoulders, sunken chest and lack of strength is concerning
The other thing
He lopes around at half pace constantly, forward shouldn’t do that
It’s 100% full pace repeat efforts
Forget the fact he had **** all help on the day????
What’s the help Naughton gets weekly??? How’s the ball delivered to Naughtin weekly....???? Has Ben King had a full 12 months in the system longer??????
Of course Max has work to do but stop with the cliched drivel around”peacocks” and being tough and face facts King ain’t Lockett.....ffs Nick Riewoldt was no enforcer!! Different style of player and anyone with half a brain can see that
We need King to learn where to run and when......we need balls kicked in the forward 50 not to be kicked along the ground or bombed......we need a forward game plan style that allows King to lead up and jump into space .....he’s 200cms they ain’t going to stop that..right now the way we move the ball into forward 50is comical.
But it’s all because Max isn’t Swarzenegger......funny stuff.
Naughton crashes packs at will. He jumps at the ball with confidence. Has nothing to do with the delivery, it's about the way he presents. He hits packs hard. Yeah he's in a better team. That's a cop out though. Max needs to play to his strengths. I can barely remember a time when he's charged out on a lead. The ball hits his hands in a pack and he looks like he has perfect position and then he drops it. The 'kid' has just signed a giant sized contract. If these 'kids' want the huge money they need to start performing.
Roo may well have been no Carey or Brown but he was way tougher than most have ever given him credit.
As a club we need to stop pissing in his pocket and giving him cringeworthy nicknames like 'Winx' and let him prove himself.
So, I partly agree with you. Yes we need to play to Max's strengths and our fwd 50 craft certainly needs improvement. BUT Max needs to help himself as well. What B.M. has said may well be full of of 1980's clichés but there's more than a ring of truth to them. He simply has to show more mongrel. Very few KP forwards get away with being good blokes. Roo was one, but he ran like the wind to get away from them, and he had a burning competitiveness like no player I've ever seen. King signs a big boys contract he needs to start presenting and playing like a big boy.
Where was his help when Membrey was in defence??
**** me who is there as support again ???
I’d also argue with an injury King (as Lyon and other peanut commentators had to acknowledge) had a hand in setting up 2-3 other goals and kicked 1 himself ....and yep, he still didn’t have a great day but 29 games in and injured I’m prepared to cut him some slack ??
And don’t pretend Naughton doesn’t get silver service....I’m sure Max would love the Bont running out of centre lace out...
And why doesn’t he lead up??? Why is he not pushed deep with space left to lead into infront of him????? I think you’ll find that’s our cr@p forward line structure right there...non existent and relying on miracle goals
Scollop is right - King needs a spell and I couldn’t care less about a nothing Crows game....seasons done....I’d rest him up into the bye and tell Battle ....here’s your chance mate??
