Chips Frawley

[minneapolis]

"His manager said that he’ll be hungry and passionate about performing at his best if he does sign with the Saints. "

That sounds like interest from both parties - enough that it would seem to be a done deal.

[Saintmatt]

Browns out as is Austin
Keep Clavarino
Joyce is on the list but destined for the scrap heap

As long as we keep turning the list over I cannot for the life of me see a downside to adding Frawley for a year or two

Because he is done

If we are going for insurance (a term I hate you don’t see the successful clubs doing it) then at least go for versatility.. Mckernan can play a couple of positions

Frawley on tram tracks plays 1 position

Why not go for Majak or Westhoff if you want cover

Is Geelong a successful club? In which case then, you'd be wrong. They delisted Lachie Henderson at the end of 2019 and then rookied him when we snapped up Ryan Abbott from under their noses. Henderson played in their GF team and may keep playing now that Taylor has retired.

Remember too that Ryder was considered 'insurance' in case Marshall went down.

Westhoff is pretty well gone and Majak was starting develop nicely as a KPD before his bridge incident - I suspect his body is still pretty fragile.

[Impatient Sainter]

Oscar McDonald 24yo is another player who has been mismanaged by Melbourne who I believe has potential. I wonder if the club would consider him over a 32-33 yo Frawley?

[Ghost Like]

Oscar McDonald 24yo is another player who has been mismanaged by Melbourne who I believe has potential. I wonder if the club would consider him over a 32-33 yo Frawley?

Hopefully and I suspect the club would not consider him over a 52-53 yo amputee.

[freely]

Slow, lazy, disinterested - yep, could definitely stand in for Carlisle.

[Saintmatt]

Oscar McDonald 24yo is another player who has been mismanaged by Melbourne who I believe has potential. I wonder if the club would consider him over a 32-33 yo Frawley?

Oscar McDonald is horrendous. He's Melbourneé whipping boy - think Raph Clarke but, kind of worse. Same indecision and panic with ball in hand. At least Raph was a good kick.

[Sanctorum]

I'd be surprised if Oscar McDonald doesn't get picked up by another club. He's a big feller, 196 cm, 100kg, played 81 games in 6 seasons, at a club that has been mediocre and not known for developing young recruits.

To me he looks like he's ready to get out of the "Demons Rut" and a club like Hawthorn will turn him into a regular starter in defence, similar to what they did with Chips Frawley, another one who stagnated at the Demons.

At age 25 in 2021 I wouldn't mind at all if St Kilda gave him another chance.

[Beno88]

Why are we talking about Oscar McDonald again!? This guy is the worst of the worst, he makes Zac Dawson look like Stephen Silvagni.

Surely, being delisted by Melbourne is a full stop on your AFL career.

If you think McDonald is any good, just ask any Melbourne supporter what they think.

[shanegrambeau]

Why are we talking about Oscar McDonald again!? This guy is the worst of the worst, he makes Zac Dawson look like Stephen Silvagni.

Surely, being delisted by Melbourne is a full stop on your AFL career.

If you think McDonald is any good, just ask any Melbourne supporter what they think.

That’s a funny comment there Mr. Beno

...and i have no idea, but I swear i remember hearing good stuff about him a few years ago.

wasn’t he the guy who was a good defender come good forward for a whil? sounded good to me anyway.

something happened there...must of.

Or else, he was hyped about of all proportion to his worth. But just saying, there seemed like a seasons worth of good talk about the guy.

Obviously dropped offf....something’s up?

[ace]

Why are we talking about Oscar McDonald again!? This guy is the worst of the worst, he makes Zac Dawson look like Stephen Silvagni.

Surely, being delisted by Melbourne is a full stop on your AFL career.

If you think McDonald is any good, just ask any Melbourne supporter what they think.

That’s a funny comment there Mr. Beno

...and i have no idea, but I swear i remember hearing good stuff about him a few years ago.

wasn’t he the guy who was a good defender come good forward for a whil? sounded good to me anyway.

something happened there...must of.

Or else, he was hyped about of all proportion to his worth. But just saying, there seemed like a seasons worth of good talk about the guy.

Obviously dropped offf....something’s up?

Just more slander from KFC.

[SaintPav]

Why are we talking about Oscar McDonald again!? This guy is the worst of the worst, he makes Zac Dawson look like Stephen Silvagni.

Surely, being delisted by Melbourne is a full stop on your AFL career.

If you think McDonald is any good, just ask any Melbourne supporter what they think.

That’s a funny comment there Mr. Beno

...and i have no idea, but I swear i remember hearing good stuff about him a few years ago.

wasn’t he the guy who was a good defender come good forward for a whil? sounded good to me anyway.

something happened there...must of.

Or else, he was hyped about of all proportion to his worth. But just saying, there seemed like a seasons worth of good talk about the guy.

Obviously dropped offf....something’s up?

I think you’re getting confused with Tom.

[shanegrambeau]

Why are we talking about Oscar McDonald again!? This guy is the worst of the worst, he makes Zac Dawson look like Stephen Silvagni.

Surely, being delisted by Melbourne is a full stop on your AFL career.

If you think McDonald is any good, just ask any Melbourne supporter what they think.

That’s a funny comment there Mr. Beno

...and i have no idea, but I swear i remember hearing good stuff about him a few years ago.

wasn’t he the guy who was a good defender come good forward for a whil? sounded good to me anyway.

something happened there...must of.

Or else, he was hyped about of all proportion to his worth. But just saying, there seemed like a seasons worth of good talk about the guy.

Obviously dropped offf....something’s up?

I think you’re getting confused with Tom.

OK....take it all back...

What is good etiquette here...? I’ll leave it..

Sometimes. On YT, if u were Wong, posters tell you to take it down...

[SaintPav]

Why are we talking about Oscar McDonald again!? This guy is the worst of the worst, he makes Zac Dawson look like Stephen Silvagni.

Surely, being delisted by Melbourne is a full stop on your AFL career.

If you think McDonald is any good, just ask any Melbourne supporter what they think.

That’s a funny comment there Mr. Beno

...and i have no idea, but I swear i remember hearing good stuff about him a few years ago.

wasn’t he the guy who was a good defender come good forward for a whil? sounded good to me anyway.

something happened there...must of.

Or else, he was hyped about of all proportion to his worth. But just saying, there seemed like a seasons worth of good talk about the guy.

Obviously dropped offf....something’s up?

I think you’re getting confused with Tom.

OK....take it all back...

What is good etiquette here...? I’ll leave it..

Sometimes. On YT, if u were Wong, posters tell you to take it down...

Don’t worry about it.

[Joffa Burns]

Why are we talking about Oscar McDonald again!? This guy is the worst of the worst, he makes Zac Dawson look like Stephen Silvagni.

Surely, being delisted by Melbourne is a full stop on your AFL career.

If you think McDonald is any good, just ask any Melbourne supporter what they think.

That’s a funny comment there Mr. Beno

...and i have no idea, but I swear i remember hearing good stuff about him a few years ago.

wasn’t he the guy who was a good defender come good forward for a whil? sounded good to me anyway.

something happened there...must of.

Or else, he was hyped about of all proportion to his worth. But just saying, there seemed like a seasons worth of good talk about the guy.

Obviously dropped offf....something’s up?

I think you’re getting confused with Tom.

OK....take it all back...

What is good etiquette here...? I’ll leave it..

Sometimes. On YT, if u were Wong, posters tell you to take it down...

Don’t worry about it.

I did the same, was thinking Oscar was Tom McDonald and might have been worth a look.

[ace]

OK....take it all back...

What is good etiquette here...? I’ll leave it..

Sometimes. On YT, if u were Wong, posters tell you to take it down...

Don’t worry about it.

I did the same, was thinking Oscar was Tom McDonald and might have been worth a look.

If u were wrong or Wong that is OK
But if u were Penny Wong u would want to commit suicide immediately.
<1 day ban for political posts in footy forum>

[minneapolis]

Two Wongs don't make a McDonald.

[Ghost Like]

Why are we talking about Oscar McDonald again!? This guy is the worst of the worst, he makes Zac Dawson look like Stephen Silvagni.

Surely, being delisted by Melbourne is a full stop on your AFL career.

If you think McDonald is any good, just ask any Melbourne supporter what they think.

That’s a funny comment there Mr. Beno

...and i have no idea, but I swear i remember hearing good stuff about him a few years ago.

wasn’t he the guy who was a good defender come good forward for a whil? sounded good to me anyway.

something happened there...must of.

Or else, he was hyped about of all proportion to his worth. But just saying, there seemed like a seasons worth of good talk about the guy.

Obviously dropped offf....something’s up?

I think you’re getting confused with Tom.

OK....take it all back...

What is good etiquette here...? I’ll leave it..

Sometimes. On YT, if u were Wong, posters tell you to take it down...

Don’t worry about it.

I did the same, was thinking Oscar was Tom McDonald and might have been worth a look.

Tom McDonald was definitely worth a look, I thought we may have gone a bit harder for him. That said, he should come cheaper next year as he'd possibly be a RFA. Will all depend on Jake's season, whether Clav gets a go & what happens with any Bing negotiations.

[skeptic]

So it’s popping up on FB that Chips’ signing and an announcement is imminent now

[Mr Magic]

Why are we talking about Oscar McDonald again!? This guy is the worst of the worst, he makes Zac Dawson look like Stephen Silvagni.

Surely, being delisted by Melbourne is a full stop on your AFL career.

If you think McDonald is any good, just ask any Melbourne supporter what they think.

That’s a funny comment there Mr. Beno

...and i have no idea, but I swear i remember hearing good stuff about him a few years ago.

wasn’t he the guy who was a good defender come good forward for a whil? sounded good to me anyway.

something happened there...must of.

Or else, he was hyped about of all proportion to his worth. But just saying, there seemed like a seasons worth of good talk about the guy.

Obviously dropped offf....something’s up?

I think you’re getting confused with Tom.

OK....take it all back...

What is good etiquette here...? I’ll leave it..

Sometimes. On YT, if u were Wong, posters tell you to take it down...

Don’t worry about it.

I did the same, was thinking Oscar was Tom McDonald and might have been worth a look.

Tom McDonald was definitely worth a look, I thought we may have gone a bit harder for him. That said, he should come cheaper next year as he'd possibly be a RFA. Will all depend on Jake's season, whether Clav gets a go & what happens with any Bing negotiations.

I'm pretty sure that Tom McDonald's current contract is why he's still at Melbourne. Nobody wanted to take on his (reputed) 800k contract (including us?) He was a great defender who had 1 amazing year up forward. MFC obviously thought he was going to remain a forward and went and grabbed Lever and May as KPD defenders.
Alas, for whatever reasons, McDonald couldn't maintain his stellar form up forward.
Hence him being shopped around by MFC.

[SaintPav]

So it’s popping up on FB that Chips’ signing and an announcement is imminent now

You really need to stop reading FB.

You'll go blind and it's mostly made up.

Sorry.

[skeptic]

So it’s popping up on FB that Chips’ signing and an announcement is imminent now

You really need to stop reading FB.

You'll go blind and it's mostly made up.

Sorry.

I generally only post something that gains traction

But yeah... most rumoury things on the internet are made up

[Saints58]

We do need a big KPB Willkie, and Battle are great but only 191cm and 193 cm what happens when they come up against teams with 2 guys around 200 cm we struggled late in the season when Carlisle was not there roberton is only 194cm so either we play Oscar and now to get some experience ,or we look at delisted players to pick up.
Chips I think is over 30 do we really need a guy of that age who is out of the game to help out i like him but not for only a season and I don't see any value in taking up a list spot when we might get maybe a Oscar Mcdonald delisted and is 196cm has over 70 games and is 23 he is not massive but there is a example of some of the players that may be available.

[The Linton Street Flash]

We do need a big KPB Willkie, and Battle are great but only 191cm and 193 cm what happens when they come up against teams with 2 guys around 200 cm we struggled late in the season when Carlisle was not there roberton is only 194cm so either we play Oscar and now to get some experience ,or we look at delisted players to pick up.
Chips I think is over 30 do we really need a guy of that age who is out of the game to help out i like him but not for only a season and I don't see any value in taking up a list spot when we might get maybe a Oscar Mcdonald delisted and is 196cm has over 70 games and is 23 he is not massive but there is a example of some of the players that may be available.

What use is it to bring in some 3rd grade hack like Oscar McDonald who’d probably last a year or so before being delisted, and who offers very little if he ever gets a game?

You’re not thinking this through 58...

Frawley is only 30 and was still playing very serviceable football right up to the end of the season just gone.

He’s a big, strong, aggressive footballer with enormous experience, some of which was garnered playing in one of the most successful systems in the history of the game.

He’s close to Ratten, Roughead and Rath, so i would imagine their main interest is to bring him into the club in an on-field coaching role (similar to what they had initially hoped for Roughead) - he’ll basically be a coach who may get called in to play a few games, but he’ll be cheap and his pay packet will fit it nicely with the soft cap for footy dept. spending.

We were pretty close this year, and could have been even closer if we didn’t lose the class and size of Carlisle for the last game - it’s pretty obvious why they waNt someone as a backup in case one of the big guys goes down, and it’s a bloody good call.

Bringing in Frawley and McKernan might just be a master stroke whereas bringing in the likes of McDonald would be a very nothing, very beige, Cho-like decision,

I reckon there’s some sound thinking going in a Moorabbin these days, and the decision to offer Frawley a spot is just another example of it - I for one am hoping that we see him down at Linton Street in the very near future.

[SaintPav]

Frawley is 32 according to Wikipedia.

[st.byron]

Frawley is 32 according to Wikipedia.

Yep is 32. Six months younger than Paddy Ryder. 239 games. Premiership player. Very durable throughout his career. Hasn’t missed much through injury - 239 games out of a possible 260 odd since 2009.
Gotta be worth a spot at low cost as backup and brings all that Hawthorn experience.
We’re getting very Hawthorney.