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Post: # 1880341Post saintbob »

We should offer him 650k per year for 5 years and the Pies can chip in the rest, especially if the Crows want too much for Crouch.


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get him


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Pies only will only chip in for one year.

So Treloar would to join us have to sign on a much lower deal than he currently has.

If we trade in J Higgins then we have little to trade for Treloar. Lonie would only be a deposit. So you would need to say give next year's first and probably second.


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and smash the filthy filth filth on the trade table


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Post: # 1880353Post saintbob »

saintsRrising wrote: Wed 28 Oct 2020 8:43pm Pies only will only chip in for one year.

So Treloar would to join us have to sign on a much lower deal than he currently has.

If we trade in J Higgins then we have little to trade for Treloar. Lonie would only be a deposit. So you would need to say give next year's first and probably second.
Why only one year, aren’t we paying part of Steven’s contract until that contract expires?


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Would think Essendon would be all over him....


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Post: # 1880361Post st.byron »

Yeah nah. Will be 28 at the start of next year. I want younger players coming in, not the demographic who are in the last third of their careers. Guys who are approaching their prime not battered old sea dogs like Hannebery who might give a good performance or two, but aren’t players who we can be excited about being long term players.


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saintbob wrote: Wed 28 Oct 2020 8:51pm
saintsRrising wrote: Wed 28 Oct 2020 8:43pm Pies only will only chip in for one year.

So Treloar would to join us have to sign on a much lower deal than he currently has.

If we trade in J Higgins then we have little to trade for Treloar. Lonie would only be a deposit. So you would need to say give next year's first and probably second.
Why only one year, aren’t we paying part of Steven’s contract until that contract expires?
Can't trade away both next years first and second.

There is a specific rule you can not trade both the future first pick and any of the remaining future picks.
Choice is EITHER future first pick ONLY or any number of future later picks.
Those futures have to be the clubs own future picks.

Only Hawthorn is allowed to trade their own future second (having given their future first to St Kilda) instead of another clubs future second.
Hawthron broke the rule too late to reverse the trade for O'Meara.
The crooks at the corrupt AFL eventually admitted it was wrong but refused to cancel the trade.
Gold Coast would have got nothing, O'Meara would have landed at Essendon via the pre-season draft for free.


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saintsRrising wrote: Wed 28 Oct 2020 8:43pm Pies only will only chip in for one year.

So Treloar would to join us have to sign on a much lower deal than he currently has.

If we trade in J Higgins then we have little to trade for Treloar. Lonie would only be a deposit. So you would need to say give next year's first and probably second.
If that gets the deal done then it's the steal of this century. Adding Treloar would almost be the final piece.

I've really shifted on this story in the past 48 hours and believe if our club isn't turning over every rock to get him in then they are asleep at the wheel.

Something tells me they have at least made a few phone calls.


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Vortex wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 9:32am
saintsRrising wrote: Wed 28 Oct 2020 8:43pm Pies only will only chip in for one year.

So Treloar would to join us have to sign on a much lower deal than he currently has.

If we trade in J Higgins then we have little to trade for Treloar. Lonie would only be a deposit. So you would need to say give next year's first and probably second.
If that gets the deal done then it's the steal of this century. Adding Treloar would almost be the final piece.

I've really shifted on this story in the past 48 hours and believe if our club isn't turning over every rock to get him in then they are asleep at the wheel.

Something tells me they have at least made a few phone calls.

You also need to get Treloar to accept a lower package as otherwise we cannot afford him.


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Post: # 1880529Post skeptic »

I don’t think this was ever in the works. I noted in the OP there was no mention of us and it seems as though the brains trust has put a line through it from a feasibility POV


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saintsRrising wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 3:46pm
Vortex wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 9:32am
saintsRrising wrote: Wed 28 Oct 2020 8:43pm Pies only will only chip in for one year.

So Treloar would to join us have to sign on a much lower deal than he currently has.

If we trade in J Higgins then we have little to trade for Treloar. Lonie would only be a deposit. So you would need to say give next year's first and probably second.
If that gets the deal done then it's the steal of this century. Adding Treloar would almost be the final piece.

I've really shifted on this story in the past 48 hours and believe if our club isn't turning over every rock to get him in then they are asleep at the wheel.

Something tells me they have at least made a few phone calls.

You also need to get Treloar to accept a lower package as otherwise we cannot afford him.
I've wondered if that is what Collingwood are trying to do and keep him at a discounted price. Surely not, however we are now entering an economic recession, possibly of the likes we've never seen before and the TPP and list sizes are being reduced.

I'd imagine most clubs have given him a call and said we are interested, we just can't pay you 900k per season.

As soon as he hears that 17 times does he then put his tail between his legs and give Ed a call.

Crazy times.


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saintbob wrote: Wed 28 Oct 2020 8:51pm
saintsRrising wrote: Wed 28 Oct 2020 8:43pm Pies only will only chip in for one year.

So Treloar would to join us have to sign on a much lower deal than he currently has.

If we trade in J Higgins then we have little to trade for Treloar. Lonie would only be a deposit. So you would need to say give next year's first and probably second.
Why only one year, aren’t we paying part of Steven’s contract until that contract expires?
Contrary to popular opinion - we were only paying a small % of Steven's wage this year (the last year of his contract with us) hence, why we received a poor draft pick (58 - which ended up at Freo as part of the Hill deal). Geelong were happy to give us a better pick if we paid more of his salary. In the end - Steven going to Geelong ended up basically being a salary dump for us. Hill will play more and better footy for St Kilda than Jack Steven will for Geelong.


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Post: # 1880557Post Joffa Burns »

johnearljames wrote: Mon 26 Oct 2020 9:42pm https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-tr ... 41b2325a41

Watch this space.
What does watch this space mean?
Does it mean the saints are in the hunt for Treloar?


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Joffa Burns wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 6:11pm
johnearljames wrote: Mon 26 Oct 2020 9:42pm https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-tr ... 41b2325a41

Watch this space.
What does watch this space mean?
Does it mean the saints are in the hunt for Treloar?
You stealing work colleagues lunch packs again?
Cyber bully gang back I guess.
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Vortex wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 4:21pm
saintsRrising wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 3:46pm
Vortex wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 9:32am
saintsRrising wrote: Wed 28 Oct 2020 8:43pm Pies only will only chip in for one year.

So Treloar would to join us have to sign on a much lower deal than he currently has.

If we trade in J Higgins then we have little to trade for Treloar. Lonie would only be a deposit. So you would need to say give next year's first and probably second.
If that gets the deal done then it's the steal of this century. Adding Treloar would almost be the final piece.

I've really shifted on this story in the past 48 hours and believe if our club isn't turning over every rock to get him in then they are asleep at the wheel.

Something tells me they have at least made a few phone calls.

You also need to get Treloar to accept a lower package as otherwise we cannot afford him.
I've wondered if that is what Collingwood are trying to do and keep him at a discounted price. Surely not, however we are now entering an economic recession, possibly of the likes we've never seen before and the TPP and list sizes are being reduced.

I'd imagine most clubs have given him a call and said we are interested, we just can't pay you 900k per season.

As soon as he hears that 17 times does he then put his tail between his legs and give Ed a call.

Crazy times.
Why would he do that? I imagine his tail is up & wagging. It's Eddie's sphincter that is puckering. Why would anyone make this easy for Collingwood?


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Joffa Burns wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 6:11pm
johnearljames wrote: Mon 26 Oct 2020 9:42pm https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-tr ... 41b2325a41

Watch this space.
What does watch this space mean?
Does it mean the saints are in the hunt for Treloar?
I wondered what it meant as well ?


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Saintmatt wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 5:41pm
saintbob wrote: Wed 28 Oct 2020 8:51pm
saintsRrising wrote: Wed 28 Oct 2020 8:43pm Pies only will only chip in for one year.

So Treloar would to join us have to sign on a much lower deal than he currently has.

If we trade in J Higgins then we have little to trade for Treloar. Lonie would only be a deposit. So you would need to say give next year's first and probably second.
Why only one year, aren’t we paying part of Steven’s contract until that contract expires?
Contrary to popular opinion - we were only paying a small % of Steven's wage this year (the last year of his contract with us) hence, why we received a poor draft pick (58 - which ended up at Freo as part of the Hill deal). Geelong were happy to give us a better pick if we paid more of his salary. In the end - Steven going to Geelong ended up basically being a salary dump for us. Hill will play more and better footy for St Kilda than Jack Steven will for Geelong.
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So if Treloar has 4yrs left;

A. Could we choose to give up a decent pick and they’d pay more of his contract for 4yrs?

B. We give them a s*** pick in the 40’s or 50’s and we pay the majority 4yrs?

I’d choose A everyday of the week

Totally agree with your assessment of Hill and Steven


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Lethlean said not interested in Treloar.
I guess that means he is a lock, playing for St Kilda next year but for a heap less than Collingwood were contracted to pay him.


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johnearljames wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 6:21pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 6:11pm
johnearljames wrote: Mon 26 Oct 2020 9:42pm https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-tr ... 41b2325a41

Watch this space.
What does watch this space mean?
Does it mean the saints are in the hunt for Treloar?
You stealing work colleagues lunch packs again?
Cyber bully gang back I guess.
I am unsure why you have gone on such an unwarranted and unprovoked attack - Ted.

I merely asked the question: What does watch this space mean?

Would you be kind enough to elaborate please?

And for the record I do not work, therefore do not have work colleagues :wink:


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Wayne42 wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 6:56pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 6:11pm
johnearljames wrote: Mon 26 Oct 2020 9:42pm https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-tr ... 41b2325a41

Watch this space.
What does watch this space mean?
Does it mean the saints are in the hunt for Treloar?
I wondered what it meant as well ?
It's perplexing!


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Joffa Burns wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 8:15pm
johnearljames wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 6:21pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 6:11pm
johnearljames wrote: Mon 26 Oct 2020 9:42pm https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-tr ... 41b2325a41

Watch this space.
What does watch this space mean?
Does it mean the saints are in the hunt for Treloar?
You stealing work colleagues lunch packs again?
Cyber bully gang back I guess.
I am unsure why you have gone on such an unwarranted and unprovoked attack - Ted.

I merely asked the question: What does watch this space mean?

Would you be kind enough to elaborate please?

And for the record I do not work, therefore do not have work colleagues :wink:
Who is Ted?
And after 90 odd posts and a few days since the original post I find it strange you ask the questions and given your cyber bullying track record. I'm sure your intentions have nothing sinister behind them. 🙄


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johnearljames wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 8:27pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 8:15pm
johnearljames wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 6:21pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 6:11pm
johnearljames wrote: Mon 26 Oct 2020 9:42pm https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-tr ... 41b2325a41

Watch this space.
What does watch this space mean?
Does it mean the saints are in the hunt for Treloar?
You stealing work colleagues lunch packs again?
Cyber bully gang back I guess.
I am unsure why you have gone on such an unwarranted and unprovoked attack - Ted.

I merely asked the question: What does watch this space mean?

Would you be kind enough to elaborate please?

And for the record I do not work, therefore do not have work colleagues :wink:
Who is Ted?
And after 90 odd posts and a few days since the original post I find it strange you ask the questions and given your cyber bullying track record. I'm sure your intentions have nothing sinister behind them. 🙄
I guess you decline to answer the question then.


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Why would any club offer / gift Collingwood anything for Treloar? This is a buyer's market. Collingwood don't want him or don't want to pay him the contract they agreed. If they want to free up salary and willing to pay part of it then they have achieved. No club deserves to receive draft picks after offering a contract they cannot afford.


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johnearljames wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 8:27pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 8:15pm
johnearljames wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 6:21pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Thu 29 Oct 2020 6:11pm
johnearljames wrote: Mon 26 Oct 2020 9:42pm https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-tr ... 41b2325a41

Watch this space.
What does watch this space mean?
Does it mean the saints are in the hunt for Treloar?
You stealing work colleagues lunch packs again?
Cyber bully gang back I guess.
I am unsure why you have gone on such an unwarranted and unprovoked attack - Ted.

I merely asked the question: What does watch this space mean?

Would you be kind enough to elaborate please?

And for the record I do not work, therefore do not have work colleagues :wink:
Who is Ted?
And after 90 odd posts and a few days since the original post I find it strange you ask the questions and given your cyber bullying track record. I'm sure your intentions have nothing sinister behind them. 🙄
I've also no doubt there's anything sinister, nor have I seen evidence of a cyber bullying track record. Yet the question, "What does watch this space mean?" (In context to the link), still remains unanswered?

Have you heard something? What have you heard? Are we negotiating with him or am I just staring into space as I watch it and read it?


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