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Re: Saints who have left to win flags

Post: # 1505561Post SaintJohn1956 »

All of the players listed played at St.Kilda before going to another club and playing in a premiership.


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Re: Saints who have left to win flags

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This list should be correct:
Player Club Year Clubs Career
Purse, Jack Me 1900 St,Me 1898-1908
McLeod, George Es 1911,12 St,Es 1897-1913
Hazel, Ern Es 1911 St,Me,Es 1909-1912
Brown, Ted V. Ca 1914,15 St,Ca 1911-1920
Turnbull, Norm Ri 1921 St,Ri 1914-1923
Tymms, Bill Me 1926 St,Me 1922-1933
Moyes, Harry Me 1926 St,Me 1915-1927
Roberts, Frank Me 1939,40 St,Me 1933-1941
Rae, Stephen Ri 1973 St,Ri 1969-1974
Stewart, Ian Ri 1973 St,Ri 1963-1975
Malthouse, Mick Ri 1980 St,Ri 1972-1983
Perovic, Val Ca 1981,82 St,Ca 1973-1985
Greene, Russell Ha 1983,86,88 St,Ha 1974-1988
Harding, Paul WC 1992 Ha,St,WC 1987-1994
Rice, Dean Ca 1995 St,Ca 1987-2001
Wakelin, Darryl PA 2004 St,PA 1995-2007
Hall, Barry Sy 2005 St,Sy,WB 1996-2011
Guerra, Brent Ha 2008,13 PA,St,Ha 2000-2013
Ball, Luke Co 2010 St,Co 2003-2014
McEvoy, Ben Ha 2014 St,Ha 2008-2014

Just by coincidence, I am having dinner tonight with Bill Tymms III, the grandson of Bill Tymms.


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Re: Saints who have left to win flags

Post: # 1505594Post SaintJohn1956 »

Yes - I think it must be - just checked. Collingwood 1958 Don Howell didn't play.
Carlton 1914 Jack Wells did not play.
Richmond 1920 Bill Mahoney did not play.


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Re: Saints who have left to win flags

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Previous club before playing in a premiership (does not include players who moved more than once before playing in a premiership, e.g. Ern Hazel in table above):

20 Sydney
19 Melbourne, St.Kilda
18 Essendon
17 Geelong
16 Collingwood
14 Carlton, Richmond
11 Hawthorn, Fitzroy
10 Western Bulldogs
8 North Melbourne
5 West Coast
4 Adelaide, Brisbane, Port Adelaide
3 Fremantle
0 Gold Coast, Greater Western Sydney, University

Info from RonTheBear on bigfooty.


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Re: Saints who have left to win flags

Post: # 1505671Post plugger66 »

kosifantutti wrote:This list should be correct:
Player Club Year Clubs Career
Purse, Jack Me 1900 St,Me 1898-1908
McLeod, George Es 1911,12 St,Es 1897-1913
Hazel, Ern Es 1911 St,Me,Es 1909-1912
Brown, Ted V. Ca 1914,15 St,Ca 1911-1920
Turnbull, Norm Ri 1921 St,Ri 1914-1923
Tymms, Bill Me 1926 St,Me 1922-1933
Moyes, Harry Me 1926 St,Me 1915-1927
Roberts, Frank Me 1939,40 St,Me 1933-1941
Rae, Stephen Ri 1973 St,Ri 1969-1974
Stewart, Ian Ri 1973 St,Ri 1963-1975
Malthouse, Mick Ri 1980 St,Ri 1972-1983
Perovic, Val Ca 1981,82 St,Ca 1973-1985
Greene, Russell Ha 1983,86,88 St,Ha 1974-1988
Harding, Paul WC 1992 Ha,St,WC 1987-1994
Rice, Dean Ca 1995 St,Ca 1987-2001
Wakelin, Darryl PA 2004 St,PA 1995-2007
Hall, Barry Sy 2005 St,Sy,WB 1996-2011
Guerra, Brent Ha 2008,13 PA,St,Ha 2000-2013
Ball, Luke Co 2010 St,Co 2003-2014
McEvoy, Ben Ha 2014 St,Ha 2008-2014

Just by coincidence, I am having dinner tonight with Bill Tymms III, the grandson of Bill Tymms.

Is his Dad a bookie because if it is his Daughter is a mad swans fan.


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Re: Saints who have left to win flags

Post: # 1505677Post Sainternist »

It nice of Bruce McAvaney to bring that statistic up over the course of hi Grand Final call. Really made my day, NOT.


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Re: Saints who have left to win flags

Post: # 1505734Post SaintJohn1956 »

The figures don't look so bad if you take the % of total players used.
So St.K 1573 Players (if we use 19) then that is %1.207 (or %1.271 if it is 20 ) of St.K players have gone on to premierships at other clubs.
Carlton 1156 Players = %1.211
Collingwood 1118 = 1.431
Geelong 1048 = 1.622
Melbourne 1310 = 1.450
North 986 = .811
Rich 1128 = 1.241
Syd/Sm 1392 = 1.436
Dogs 980 = 1.020

What does it all mean?

Who knows - but it probably means we are not much better or worse than other clubs.
Bruce could have made the same observation about Sydney while commentating on the GF.


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