And here in lies the problem. Any mention of what they are is seen as racist.plugger66 wrote:Are you serious. Has any white Australian expressed that they dont like the word Aussie. No we love that word. Has any aboriginal expressed they dont like the word abo. Yes so it is racist if said. We all know they dont like it so it is pretty clear what you do. Dont say it.Saint Bev wrote:Abo is short for Aboriginal.
Aussie is short for Australian, should we be offened?
Dipper stupidity
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My 2 cents worth:-
'Aussie' is a term of endearment - a colloguial name for Australians, no mattter what background - 'Aussie, aussie, aussie, oi, oi, oi
'Abo' is a derogatory term for Aboriginal - akin to calling black people 'nigger' or 'boong'.
It has no connotation of endearment/love/friendship attached to it at all, and therefore will always be seen as a derogatory name for indigenous Australians.
I can't think of a term to describe 'White Auatralians' with comparable mailce attached to it - maybe 'skippy'?
Are the following terms acceptable in everyday society's language when used in relation to people's ethnicity?
'chink'
'wog'
'dago'
'gook'
'nip'
and many more.
'Aussie' is a term of endearment - a colloguial name for Australians, no mattter what background - 'Aussie, aussie, aussie, oi, oi, oi
'Abo' is a derogatory term for Aboriginal - akin to calling black people 'nigger' or 'boong'.
It has no connotation of endearment/love/friendship attached to it at all, and therefore will always be seen as a derogatory name for indigenous Australians.
I can't think of a term to describe 'White Auatralians' with comparable mailce attached to it - maybe 'skippy'?
Are the following terms acceptable in everyday society's language when used in relation to people's ethnicity?
'chink'
'wog'
'dago'
'gook'
'nip'
and many more.
Ok, let me put it another way.
We were at the footy once and an aboriginal player was getting a good run with the umpires and my husband made the comment. "Aboriginals get looked after ". A guy turned round and said he was being racial.
Now if he had of said Jonathan Brown (example only) gets looked after by an umpire, no one would have said that was racial, whats the difference?
We were at the footy once and an aboriginal player was getting a good run with the umpires and my husband made the comment. "Aboriginals get looked after ". A guy turned round and said he was being racial.
Now if he had of said Jonathan Brown (example only) gets looked after by an umpire, no one would have said that was racial, whats the difference?
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I'm only responding for the sake of the dabate, and I make absolutely no comment on whether your husband has racist views (I've never met him, so could not possibly make such a determination),Saint Bev wrote:Ok, let me put it another way.
We were at the footy once and an aboriginal player was getting a good run with the umpires and my husband made the comment. "Aboriginals get looked after ". A guy turned round and said he was being racial.
Now if he had of said Jonathan Brown (example only) gets looked after by an umpire, no one would have said that was racial, whats the difference?
BUT
the comment, as you've portrayed it is clearly racial (to me).
The comment infers that Aboriginals (a race of people) get preferential treatment from the umpires.
It may well be a ruthful statement, but it is also a 'racial statement'.
It is no different to saying 'Irishmen get looked after' - also a racial statement.
'Jonathan Brown always gets looked after' is not a racial statment because his race is not mentioned.
A non racial way of making the statement would have been
'Wnaganeen always gets looked after'.
It's the mentioning of 'Aboriginal' that makes the statement racial.
Would we even be discussing this topic if Dipper would have said
'Wanganeen was not a bad Brownlow medallist'
instead of
'Wanganeen was not a bad Brownlow Medallist, for an Abo'.
Mr Magic wrote:My 2 cents worth:-
'Aussie' is a term of endearment - a colloguial name for Australians, no mattter what background - 'Aussie, aussie, aussie, oi, oi, oi
'Abo' is a derogatory term for Aboriginal - akin to calling black people 'nigger' or 'boong'.
It has no connotation of endearment/love/friendship attached to it at all, and therefore will always be seen as a derogatory name for indigenous Australians.
I can't think of a term to describe 'White Auatralians' with comparable mailce attached to it - maybe 'skippy'?
Are the following terms acceptable in everyday society's language when used in relation to people's ethnicity?
'chink'
'wog'
'dago'
'gook'
'nip'
and many more.
skippy......or more correctly ...skips ....is derogatory because it is meant to be derogatory...some words will always be racist....others ,not always...like the word bastard.......depends how you mean it to be.......insulting.....or a warm greeting to an old friend.....
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
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Agreed - it is often the intent of the use of the word, moreso than the actual word.stinger wrote:Mr Magic wrote:My 2 cents worth:-
'Aussie' is a term of endearment - a colloguial name for Australians, no mattter what background - 'Aussie, aussie, aussie, oi, oi, oi
'Abo' is a derogatory term for Aboriginal - akin to calling black people 'nigger' or 'boong'.
It has no connotation of endearment/love/friendship attached to it at all, and therefore will always be seen as a derogatory name for indigenous Australians.
I can't think of a term to describe 'White Auatralians' with comparable mailce attached to it - maybe 'skippy'?
Are the following terms acceptable in everyday society's language when used in relation to people's ethnicity?
'chink'
'wog'
'dago'
'gook'
'nip'
and many more.
skippy......or more correctly ...skips ....is derogatory because it is meant to be derogatory...some words will always be racist....others ,not always...like the word bastard.......depends how you mean it to be.......insulting.....or a warm greeting to an old friend.....