David Armitage

[SainterK]

I thought Armo was better than Dempster or Ball yesterday....

at the very least he deserves another shot next week... providing his corky isn't too severe.

Armitage deserves an apology for not being selected ahead of Fiora and Birss last year and Geary and Eddy this year!


Great game, finally gets an opportunity against Mitchell, Hodge, Lewis etc... without our big name mids for support and takes it up to them and beats them!

I love Lyon, but Armitage's non selection up until now, has been IMHO very strange, baffling and a mistake.

I hope Armitage maintains his position!


When Ball was dropped a few weeks ago and Armitage was not selected in his place, this was totally unbelievable and I still cannot understand this at all.

Sigh........ oh well at least Lyon gets just about everything else right!

The kid can play, no question. But are we sure that we want that to be the only criteria that you have to meet for selection?

[DWOODROW]

I thought Armo was better than Dempster or Ball yesterday....

at the very least he deserves another shot next week... providing his corky isn't too severe.

Armitage deserves an apology for not being selected ahead of Fiora and Birss last year and Geary and Eddy this year!


Great game, finally gets an opportunity against Mitchell, Hodge, Lewis etc... without our big name mids for support and takes it up to them and beats them!

I love Lyon, but Armitage's non selection up until now, has been IMHO very strange, baffling and a mistake.

I hope Armitage maintains his position!


When Ball was dropped a few weeks ago and Armitage was not selected in his place, this was totally unbelievable and I still cannot understand this at all.

Sigh........ oh well at least Lyon gets just about everything else right!

The kid can play, no question. But are we sure that we want that to be the only criteria that you have to meet for selection?

I'm assuming you mean what he does off the field or work ethic /training,skinfolds etc etc. And also the game plan, if he sticks to it follows direction. ???? Or is there something else????

[Animal Enclosure]

Armitage close to being our best midfielder yesterday, even though he missed the last quarter.

Comparing him to Gwilt or Eddy seems absurd though. Gwilt and Eddy have been mainly used as a half forward who we want to lead up and take releiving marks and apply great forward preassure, in a way similar to the role Aaron Hammil played some years back. Armitage was never going to play this role so the I cant beleive Eddy and Gwilt got a game before him argument is meaning less.

You're right about the Gwilt non comparison Rexy but Eddy does play that HFF/midfield role that Armo could play successfully. You'd only rate Eddy ahead on his tank, which is probably a very good reason why Ross has him in the side over Armo.

Personally I'd have Armo in for all the obvious reasons... & he can kick a goal, which Eddy struggles to do (especially for a semi-permanent forward).

[Bernard Shakey]

Armitage close to being our best midfielder yesterday, even though he missed the last quarter.

I just watched the replay and Armo was on the ground for at least 25 minutes in the last quarter. He only spent a couple of minutes on the bike at the start of the quarter.

He layed a tackle or 2 (mostly 2nd man in) and basically couldn't get to the contest.

Armo had a great first 3 quarters, but the game goes for 4 quarters.

[DWOODROW]

Armitage close to being our best midfielder yesterday, even though he missed the last quarter.

I just watched the replay and Armo was on the ground for at least 25 minutes in the last quarter. He only spent a couple of minutes on the bike at the start of the quarter.

He layed a tackle or 2 (mostly 2nd man in) and basically couldn't get to the contest.

Armo had a great first 3 quarters, but the game goes for 4 quarters.

I've got an idea. Ring up the club and ask for him to be sacked or demoted back to Sandy. I mean really it was his first game for the year at elite level but as far as you are concerned he may as well have packed up and gone home before he even started playing. We get you don't rate him but appreciate that he had a go. Did everyone else run out the match on a full tank, Did they get into positions he did that others wouldn't even dream of getting into.

[SaintWodonga]

Great game, big wrap for him. Love to see more from him...

[Unforgiven]

Even if there is an issue with Armo's fitness, to win the ball like he did is an asset. No reason why they couldn't just play them like they did Ball earlier this season, with 60%-70% game time.

[starsign]

He burnt up a bit of energy wrestling with that irate Hawk who obviously didn't appreciate Armos grinding tackle seconds before!!

and I think we goaled while all that was happening

[Richter]

For mine it's Armo vs Ball for a midfield spot in the 22 for the first final.

And on Saturday's performances I'd give the spot to Armo due to his clearly better disposal and greater potential.

[hAyES]

Yeah, but the midfield role isn't just about clearance work. We've got Dal and Joey as our outside mids (who are both good inside as well now) and lenny and CJ as our inside mids. WE need one more genuine inside type mid, but not two more I reckon.

As good as the hawks midfielfd was last year, one of the reasons Hodge was sent back was b/c they didn't really need Mitchell, Sewell, Lewis and him in the midfield. Too one dimensional. - (although Hodge has a few more strings to his bow)

I'd say Joey and Dal are more outside midfielders than inside. I thought a big reason why Hawthorn did so well in the finals is because of those 3 in the middle and the way they attacked the ball like their lives depended on it. IMO we only have two pure inside midfielders in Lenny and Ball, and I think we need to develop another one.

[vacuous space]

I'd say Joey and Dal are more outside midfielders than inside.

Dal leads the club in contested ball. Joey's #2. I think they're both playing the way Lyon wants all our mids to play - inside and out. You can't get by on just one. Ball's omission was a sign of that.

I thought Armo did good work in all phases. His kicking did let him down a bit though. He'll have to improve that if he wants to retain his spot.

[SainterK]

I thought Armo was better than Dempster or Ball yesterday....

at the very least he deserves another shot next week... providing his corky isn't too severe.

Armitage deserves an apology for not being selected ahead of Fiora and Birss last year and Geary and Eddy this year!


Great game, finally gets an opportunity against Mitchell, Hodge, Lewis etc... without our big name mids for support and takes it up to them and beats them!

I love Lyon, but Armitage's non selection up until now, has been IMHO very strange, baffling and a mistake.

I hope Armitage maintains his position!


When Ball was dropped a few weeks ago and Armitage was not selected in his place, this was totally unbelievable and I still cannot understand this at all.

Sigh........ oh well at least Lyon gets just about everything else right!

The kid can play, no question. But are we sure that we want that to be the only criteria that you have to meet for selection?

I'm assuming you mean what he does off the field or work ethic /training,skinfolds etc etc. And also the game plan, if he sticks to it follows direction. ???? Or is there something else????

Not sure why your using big letters at me? I know nothing about Armitage off the field, I have absolutely no idea why he hasn't been selected. I was just pointing out that talent is not the only criteria to meet at the Saints this year, otherwise Luke Ball would have been playing the last few weeks. You tell me why he hasn't been selected earlier?

[Bernard Shakey]

He hasn't been selected because his tank is non existent, and Saturday did nothing to change that perspective.

[vacuous space]

He hasn't been selected because his tank is non existent, and Saturday did nothing to change that perspective.

Armo ran a 14+ beep. If he's struggling to run out games, I'd suggest it's more mental than physical. He did look like he got a corked thigh late in the third Q on Saturday which at least hobbled him temporarily.

[Animal Enclosure]

He hasn't been selected because his tank is non existent, and Saturday did nothing to change that perspective.

I would argue his tank is at about 75% of capacity & his non selection has a bit to do with the reasonable form of a few more senior players in front of him.

[LENNY LEADS THE WAY]

Gold Coast will be going after Armo hard u'd imagine.

If he can't string some games together in 2010 i'd say we've lost the young man

[Con Gorozidis]

Armitage close to being our best midfielder yesterday, even though he missed the last quarter.

I just watched the replay and Armo was on the ground for at least 25 minutes in the last quarter. He only spent a couple of minutes on the bike at the start of the quarter.

He layed a tackle or 2 (mostly 2nd man in) and basically couldn't get to the contest.

Armo had a great first 3 quarters, but the game goes for 4 quarers

thats fine. its called match fitness. its his first afl game for the year. the intensity level/speed of the game is 100% higher than vfl. so thats totally understandable i reckon to get buggered early. you need to string 3-4 games together in a row to get your match fitness up to afl standard. cant knock him for running out of steam i dont reckon.

[DWOODROW]

I thought Armo was better than Dempster or Ball yesterday....

at the very least he deserves another shot next week... providing his corky isn't too severe.

Armitage deserves an apology for not being selected ahead of Fiora and Birss last year and Geary and Eddy this year!


Great game, finally gets an opportunity against Mitchell, Hodge, Lewis etc... without our big name mids for support and takes it up to them and beats them!

I love Lyon, but Armitage's non selection up until now, has been IMHO very strange, baffling and a mistake.

I hope Armitage maintains his position!


When Ball was dropped a few weeks ago and Armitage was not selected in his place, this was totally unbelievable and I still cannot understand this at all.

Sigh........ oh well at least Lyon gets just about everything else right!

The kid can play, no question. But are we sure that we want that to be the only criteria that you have to meet for selection?

I'm assuming you mean what he does off the field or work ethic /training,skinfolds etc etc. And also the game plan, if he sticks to it follows direction. ???? Or is there something else????

Not sure why your using big letters at me? I know nothing about Armitage off the field, I have absolutely no idea why he hasn't been selected. I was just pointing out that talent is not the only criteria to meet at the Saints this year, otherwise Luke Ball would have been playing the last few weeks. You tell me why he hasn't been selected earlier?

No I wasn't having a go at you it was a typo. Not sure what happened. I was just asking whether you had any thoughts of why he hadn't been selected. The obvious being he has been injured and the side has been doing brilliantly without him. Sorry about that.

[DWOODROW]

He hasn't been selected because his tank is non existent, and Saturday did nothing to change that perspective.

Well considering that is the only thing you have to say about him, I'm not really concerned. The fact that his attack on the football and tackling are better than most are all that counts for me. How good is your tank BS.

[SainterK]

I thought Armo was better than Dempster or Ball yesterday....

at the very least he deserves another shot next week... providing his corky isn't too severe.

Armitage deserves an apology for not being selected ahead of Fiora and Birss last year and Geary and Eddy this year!


Great game, finally gets an opportunity against Mitchell, Hodge, Lewis etc... without our big name mids for support and takes it up to them and beats them!

I love Lyon, but Armitage's non selection up until now, has been IMHO very strange, baffling and a mistake.

I hope Armitage maintains his position!


When Ball was dropped a few weeks ago and Armitage was not selected in his place, this was totally unbelievable and I still cannot understand this at all.

Sigh........ oh well at least Lyon gets just about everything else right!

The kid can play, no question. But are we sure that we want that to be the only criteria that you have to meet for selection?

I'm assuming you mean what he does off the field or work ethic /training,skinfolds etc etc. And also the game plan, if he sticks to it follows direction. ???? Or is there something else????

Not sure why your using big letters at me? I know nothing about Armitage off the field, I have absolutely no idea why he hasn't been selected. I was just pointing out that talent is not the only criteria to meet at the Saints this year, otherwise Luke Ball would have been playing the last few weeks. You tell me why he hasn't been selected earlier?

No I wasn't having a go at you it was a typo. Not sure what happened. I was just asking whether you had any thoughts of why he hadn't been selected. The obvious being he has been injured and the side has been doing brilliantly without him. Sorry about that.

No probs. I really don't why he hasn't been selected, but at least he made the most of his opportunity when given.

[DWOODROW]

I thought Armo was better than Dempster or Ball yesterday....

at the very least he deserves another shot next week... providing his corky isn't too severe.

Armitage deserves an apology for not being selected ahead of Fiora and Birss last year and Geary and Eddy this year!


Great game, finally gets an opportunity against Mitchell, Hodge, Lewis etc... without our big name mids for support and takes it up to them and beats them!

I love Lyon, but Armitage's non selection up until now, has been IMHO very strange, baffling and a mistake.

I hope Armitage maintains his position!


When Ball was dropped a few weeks ago and Armitage was not selected in his place, this was totally unbelievable and I still cannot understand this at all.

Sigh........ oh well at least Lyon gets just about everything else right!

The kid can play, no question. But are we sure that we want that to be the only criteria that you have to meet for selection?

I'm assuming you mean what he does off the field or work ethic /training,skinfolds etc etc. And also the game plan, if he sticks to it follows direction. ???? Or is there something else????

Not sure why your using big letters at me? I know nothing about Armitage off the field, I have absolutely no idea why he hasn't been selected. I was just pointing out that talent is not the only criteria to meet at the Saints this year, otherwise Luke Ball would have been playing the last few weeks. You tell me why he hasn't been selected earlier?

No I wasn't having a go at you it was a typo. Not sure what happened. I was just asking whether you had any thoughts of why he hadn't been selected. The obvious being he has been injured and the side has been doing brilliantly without him. Sorry about that.

No probs. I really don't why he hasn't been selected, but at least he made the most of his opportunity when given.

So am I.

[matrix]

the bikes used to stop the build up of lactic acid...
corkies would be treated with ice or a hands on approach maybe?? (i dunno)
maybe the bike can also be used to stop the acid build up IN corkies??

he looked alright there....isnt afraid to get the head into packs

whats the go, i mean really, is it just 'finding a spot' for him or is it work ethic?
i agree with the other poster...i thought he might of got a game before birss

[Bernard Shakey]

He hasn't been selected because his tank is non existent, and Saturday did nothing to change that perspective.

Well considering that is the only thing you have to say about him, I'm not really concerned. The fact that his attack on the football and tackling are better than most are all that counts for me. How good is your tank BS.

My tank's full at the moment. Winter rains have set the veggie patch up for a productive summer.

Armo has a ton of guts and gives his all, there is no doubt about that.

His disposal will improve and his stamina must improve if he wants to be a regular Saints player, and I'm sure he does.

[Solar]

right now we might be able to use a mid who only spends 60% of time on the field. Importantly unlike ball he seems to not lose his form whenplaying so little time. This might be a postive over ball going into finals. If he starts hitting his kick most constantly it's a bloody dangerous kick.

[DWOODROW]

He hasn't been selected because his tank is non existent, and Saturday did nothing to change that perspective.

Well considering that is the only thing you have to say about him, I'm not really concerned. The fact that his attack on the football and tackling are better than most are all that counts for me. How good is your tank BS.

My tank's full at the moment. Winter rains have set the veggie patch up for a productive summer.

Armo has a ton of guts and gives his all, there is no doubt about that.

His disposal will improve and his stamina must improve if he wants to be a regular Saints player, and I'm sure he does.

Your getting better BS. I don't want you to go to far about praising Dave though. He still doesn't have a tank , but I'm glad you appreciate his guts. It would be nice being out in the vege patch listening to a bit of Neil Young. Old man is my favourite, but I ike most of it.