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Post: # 599937Post Otiman »

Bakes' knee still needs some conditioning. Reports are that Lenny, Big Gardiner and Schneider are all ready to go.

Still, picking Schneider based on injury and form pre-injury would certainly have him labelled a "coaches boy".


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Post: # 599950Post bigcarl »

Otiman wrote:picking Schneider based on injury and form pre-injury would certainly have him labelled a "coaches boy".
if he does play he'd want to kick some goals.

i heard he wants to be an on-baller but i'm not convinced that he is nor that we should try to make him into one.

he's more of a specialist forward pocket ... a poor man's stephen milne, who so far has kicked goals only against no opposition.

still, that should be handy in a team that has struggled to kick winning scores. play him where he is best suited ... near the goals.


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Post: # 599993Post Solar »

Teflon wrote:
Solar wrote:my guess

in: M.gardiner, Hayes, schneider
out: mini, eddy, gardiner

eddy and mini are stiff and if schneider doesn't work his butt off both along with birss and baker will push for selection in following weeks

Close to the best team for awhile. Agree with bigcarl, allen must stay in and continue his presenting and breaking of packs.

Gardiner to help king destroy carlton in the rucks.
This looks ok solar except I reckon Eddy might be handy to help out shut down a small Carlton option like Betts???......Im not sure with mini/geary out we have many other options to play this role and Eddy is at least fit and hard enough.
I see your point re:eddy

personally I would rather play schneider for a week at casey to get his form and work rate up (like milne and dal) but can't see that happening. You never know, if it rains (50/50 at this stage) then kosi will play ruck and eddy/mini will come in


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Solar wrote:
Teflon wrote:
Solar wrote:my guess

in: M.gardiner, Hayes, schneider
out: mini, eddy, gardiner

eddy and mini are stiff and if schneider doesn't work his butt off both along with birss and baker will push for selection in following weeks

Close to the best team for awhile. Agree with bigcarl, allen must stay in and continue his presenting and breaking of packs.

Gardiner to help king destroy carlton in the rucks.
This looks ok solar except I reckon Eddy might be handy to help out shut down a small Carlton option like Betts???......Im not sure with mini/geary out we have many other options to play this role and Eddy is at least fit and hard enough.
I see your point re:eddy

personally I would rather play schneider for a week at casey to get his form and work rate up (like milne and dal) but can't see that happening. You never know, if it rains (50/50 at this stage) then kosi will play ruck and eddy/mini will come in
I agree about the Schneider comment, i think that's the way too go accept Ross loves him to much to do so.


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Post: # 600429Post borderbarry »

Geary was our best at the weekend, before L.Fisher and Birss Eddy etc. Only changes will probably be Lenny & M.Gardiner IN, C.Gardiner & Eddy OUT. Geary should get a run before Schneider.


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Post: # 600433Post fonz_#15 »

there will be 1 change and 1 change only....

c.gardiner out


lenny hayes in


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Post: # 600444Post WayneJudson42 »

A "coaches boy". Perhaps the coach believes he has a role to player within the team structure?

Need time to settle in, one would think.

As for being a "poor man's Milne"... 44 would want to stand up and back up his last game with another good perfomance.


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Post: # 600451Post bigcarl »

WayneJudson42 wrote:As for being a "poor man's Milne"... 44 would want to stand up and back up his last game with another good perfomance.
milne's won us three or four matches this season but you can't say that of schneider. perhaps this is his week


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Post: # 600455Post BelfastSaint »

SEN have announced that Lenny will play.


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Post: # 600461Post saintsRrising »

BelfastSaint wrote:SEN have announced that Lenny will play.
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Post: # 600462Post plugger66 »

fonz_#15 wrote:there will be 1 change and 1 change only....

c.gardiner out


lenny hayes in
Could be right but what about MG and Schneider?


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Post: # 600463Post WayneJudson42 »

My question mark over 44 is in big games. Am yet to be convinced.

Agree that Schneider hasn't performed. Fitness would be an issue, and like any structure, all players need time to understand what their team mates are likey to do.


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WayneJudson42 wrote:My question mark over 44 is in big games. Am yet to be convinced.

Agree that Schneider hasn't performed. Fitness would be an issue, and like any structure, all players need time to understand what their team mates are likey to do.
Whats a big game. Would have thought last week was nearly season defining.


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Post: # 600471Post mick13 »

Schneids should do well against Carltons weak defence. Hopefully kick a bag. Cos then Milney will as well most likely.


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plugger66 wrote:
fonz_#15 wrote:there will be 1 change and 1 change only....

c.gardiner out


lenny hayes in
Could be right but what about MG and Schneider?
not walk up starts imo....
MG needs a week in the two's, and schneider has done nothing to justify being a walk up start..just my 2 cents


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Post: # 600477Post bigcarl »

plugger66 wrote:
WayneJudson42 wrote:My question mark over 44 is in big games. Am yet to be convinced.

Agree that Schneider hasn't performed. Fitness would be an issue, and like any structure, all players need time to understand what their team mates are likey to do.
Whats a big game. Would have thought last week was nearly season defining.
it was. also the wizard cup final, which sort of counts as a big game. i'm not down on schneider and agree that he needs time to settle. the problem is who to drop after one of our best wins for some time and what sort of message it sends to the guy who misses out.

personally I'd give him a week at casey and get a bit of match fitness into him before bringing him back. but i wouldn't be surprised if he plays


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Post: # 600478Post my les foote »

WayneJudson42 wrote:My question mark over 44 is in big games. Am yet to be convinced.
He has kicked 4+ goals in wins against Carlton, Richmond and North.

As a team currently sitting in 8th, these are big games.


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Post: # 600481Post WayneJudson42 »

Plugger,

Yes, it was... and he did great. Let him back it up.

This week's is just as defining. I hope he kill's em TBH.

There was a big hoo-ha when he was dropped, and he responded the best way possible. Now let's see if he can prodcue that on a regular basis.

Same can be said for most of our team.


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fonz_#15 wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
fonz_#15 wrote:there will be 1 change and 1 change only....

c.gardiner out


lenny hayes in
Could be right but what about MG and Schneider?
not walk up starts imo....
MG needs a week in the two's, and schneider has done nothing to justify being a walk up start..just my 2 cents

I think MG would be a walk up start...but given the weather forecast...cold and wet and at night....maybe the selectors do not want to go too tall????



Schneidr has not played much..and was also not in good form in his last games and so should come back via Casey.


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Post: # 600486Post bigcarl »

WayneJudson42 wrote:Now let's see if he can prodcue that on a regular basis.
small forwards, as a rule, tend to be a bit hot and cold. it's an unfortunate fact of life. there aren't too many that turn it on week after week, but milne's goals average suggests he is still one of the best going around.


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my les foote wrote:
WayneJudson42 wrote:My question mark over 44 is in big games. Am yet to be convinced.
He has kicked 4+ goals in wins against Carlton, Richmond and North.

As a team currently sitting in 8th, these are big games.
Milne and Schnieds in the forward line...they won't know which one to shut down, will they? Still, would love to see Allen up there again too. Do you drop or move anyone out of the forward line from our last match???


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Post: # 600491Post plugger66 »

WayneJudson42 wrote:Plugger,

Yes, it was... and he did great. Let him back it up.

This week's is just as defining. I hope he kill's em TBH.

There was a big hoo-ha when he was dropped, and he responded the best way possible. Now let's see if he can prodcue that on a regular basis.

Same can be said for most of our team.
He will never produce on a consistant basis. That is the lot of a small forward but he does better than most in that position.


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Post: # 600492Post Quixote »

I would think it will be -

Schnieder IN for Charlie

Hayes IN for EDDY


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Post: # 600504Post saintsRrising »

Forecast for Friday

Rain periods during the morning then showers. Strong to gale force west to
southwesterly winds, easing during the day and tending northwesterly later.

Precis: Rain then showers. Wind easing.
City: Min 8 Max 13


Plus is at night...and at the G...so no roof.


I think Banger might go well :wink:


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Post: # 600506Post degruch »

saintsRrising wrote:Forecast for Friday

Rain periods during the morning then showers. Strong to gale force west to
southwesterly winds, easing during the day and tending northwesterly later.

Precis: Rain then showers. Wind easing.
City: Min 8 Max 13


Plus is at night...and at the G...so no roof.


I think Banger might go well :wink:
Hmmm...definately two small forwards, me thinks.


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