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Re: Defence wins finals not midfields

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Life Long Saint wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 4:35pm
samoht wrote: Sun 29 Sep 2024 12:52pm Blakey wasn't too bad, I suppose.
Didn't Blakey play on AhChee?
Blakey tried.


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Re: Defence wins finals not midfields

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At some point in time over the last 20 years ...CURLY heard someone say 'defence wins finals not midfields'

It's a nice simple thing to remember and he's going with it. I mean it has been true in many games and I think also in a few Grand Finals in the last 20 years as well.

Its also true that you definitely need some players to win contest and clearances, you definitely need some forwards to kick goals...and before the game starts all players need to put on their footy boots


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Re: Defence wins finals not midfields

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Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:37pm At some point in time over the last 20 years ...CURLY heard someone say 'defence wins finals not midfields'

It's a nice simple thing to remember and he's going with it. I mean it has been true in many games and I think also in a few Grand Finals in the last 20 years as well.

Its also true that you definitely need some players to win contest and clearances, you definitely need some forwards to kick goals...and before the game starts all players need to put on their footy boots
Nice post. Irrelevant drivel but nice and long.


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Re: Defence wins finals not midfields

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CURLY wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:38pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:37pm At some point in time over the last 20 years ...CURLY heard someone say 'defence wins finals not midfields'

It's a nice simple thing to remember and he's going with it. I mean it has been true in many games and I think also in a few Grand Finals in the last 20 years as well.

Its also true that you definitely need some players to win contest and clearances, you definitely need some forwards to kick goals...and before the game starts all players need to put on their footy boots
Nice post. Irrelevant drivel but nice and long.
You are probably the only person in Australia who thinks Brisbane's backline won them the game on Saturday.

You usually come on here and regurgitate opinions from people like Dermot Brereton but this time you went with your own brain fart.

Anyway...Well done on starting a thread.

At least it got the conversation going on the real reasons the Lions were so dominant


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Re: Defence wins finals not midfields

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Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:49pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:38pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:37pm At some point in time over the last 20 years ...CURLY heard someone say 'defence wins finals not midfields'

It's a nice simple thing to remember and he's going with it. I mean it has been true in many games and I think also in a few Grand Finals in the last 20 years as well.

Its also true that you definitely need some players to win contest and clearances, you definitely need some forwards to kick goals...and before the game starts all players need to put on their footy boots
Nice post. Irrelevant drivel but nice and long.
You are probably the only person in Australia who thinks Brisbane's backline won them the game on Saturday.

You usually come on here and regurgitate opinions from people like Dermot Brereton but this time you went with your own brain fart.

Anyway...Well done on starting a thread.

At least it got the conversation going on the real reasons the Lions were so dominant
Been mentioned plenty just not by you stat watchers.
Lions defence kept Sydney to 5 goals in 3/4 of a game but hey it had no impact on the result.


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Re: Defence wins finals not midfields

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CURLY wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:53pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:49pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:38pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:37pm At some point in time over the last 20 years ...CURLY heard someone say 'defence wins finals not midfields'

It's a nice simple thing to remember and he's going with it. I mean it has been true in many games and I think also in a few Grand Finals in the last 20 years as well.

Its also true that you definitely need some players to win contest and clearances, you definitely need some forwards to kick goals...and before the game starts all players need to put on their footy boots
Nice post. Irrelevant drivel but nice and long.
You are probably the only person in Australia who thinks Brisbane's backline won them the game on Saturday.

You usually come on here and regurgitate opinions from people like Dermot Brereton but this time you went with your own brain fart.

Anyway...Well done on starting a thread.

At least it got the conversation going on the real reasons the Lions were so dominant
Been mentioned plenty just not by you stat watchers.
Lions defence kept Sydney to 5 goals in 3/4 of a game but hey it had no impact on the result.
Sorry you can't do that!! You quoted stats


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Re: Defence wins finals not midfields

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Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:54pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:53pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:49pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:38pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:37pm At some point in time over the last 20 years ...CURLY heard someone say 'defence wins finals not midfields'

It's a nice simple thing to remember and he's going with it. I mean it has been true in many games and I think also in a few Grand Finals in the last 20 years as well.

Its also true that you definitely need some players to win contest and clearances, you definitely need some forwards to kick goals...and before the game starts all players need to put on their footy boots
Nice post. Irrelevant drivel but nice and long.
You are probably the only person in Australia who thinks Brisbane's backline won them the game on Saturday.

You usually come on here and regurgitate opinions from people like Dermot Brereton but this time you went with your own brain fart.

Anyway...Well done on starting a thread.

At least it got the conversation going on the real reasons the Lions were so dominant
Been mentioned plenty just not by you stat watchers.
Lions defence kept Sydney to 5 goals in 3/4 of a game but hey it had no impact on the result.
Sorry you can't do that!! You quoted stats

There’s no irrelevant goals in a scoreboard Cocko.


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Re: Defence wins finals not midfields

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CURLY wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 6:02pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:54pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:53pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:49pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:38pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:37pm At some point in time over the last 20 years ...CURLY heard someone say 'defence wins finals not midfields'

It's a nice simple thing to remember and he's going with it. I mean it has been true in many games and I think also in a few Grand Finals in the last 20 years as well.

Its also true that you definitely need some players to win contest and clearances, you definitely need some forwards to kick goals...and before the game starts all players need to put on their footy boots
Nice post. Irrelevant drivel but nice and long.
You are probably the only person in Australia who thinks Brisbane's backline won them the game on Saturday.

You usually come on here and regurgitate opinions from people like Dermot Brereton but this time you went with your own brain fart.

Anyway...Well done on starting a thread.

At least it got the conversation going on the real reasons the Lions were so dominant
Been mentioned plenty just not by you stat watchers.
Lions defence kept Sydney to 5 goals in 3/4 of a game but hey it had no impact on the result.
Sorry you can't do that!! You quoted stats

There’s no irrelevant goals in a scoreboard Cocko.
You're brain fart headline is meaningless without context. The Grand Final wasn't won by the Lions backline... conversely the Lions mids and small forwards were awesome.

How many Lions defenders got votes in the Norm Smith? And ...if you want to blame Sydney's backline for that game... you're more stupid than I thought

This could go on forever because I know you won't concede that it was Brisbane's midfield dominance that set up the win.

You mentioned Dougal Howard and Cal Wilkie in your opening post. Tell me this oh wise one - would they have lined up on Lohmann and Ah Chee? Of course they wouldn't have.


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Re: Defence wins finals not midfields

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Ah Chee, Lohmann and Morris kicked 10 goals between them. That's the final margin!!

Add Rayner and the goals from mids and it's a telling story.

158 marks versus 88. The Lions controlled the footy. Their entries inside 50 were clean.

The Lions mids were amongst the best for disposal efficiency of all players on the ground. 22 marks inside 50 is an indication of lack of pressure from Swans midfield.

The Swans key backs weren't slaughtered by the Lions KP Forwards

CURLY tells us the Swans backline lost the game


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Re: Defence wins finals not midfields

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CURLY wrote: Sun 29 Sep 2024 9:07am Swans best midfield in the AFL and have been belted twice in Grand Finals.

Their defence is poor and they’ve been exposed as a result. Lyon has built our defence over the last two seasons and once the transition through our half backs to attack improves our game will stack up in big games.

It also helps to have a gun key tall forward like Max King to unsettle the opposition defence. Sydney’s talls offer little threat to a defence.
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Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 7:47pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 6:02pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:54pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:53pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:49pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:38pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 5:37pm At some point in time over the last 20 years ...CURLY heard someone say 'defence wins finals not midfields'

It's a nice simple thing to remember and he's going with it. I mean it has been true in many games and I think also in a few Grand Finals in the last 20 years as well.

Its also true that you definitely need some players to win contest and clearances, you definitely need some forwards to kick goals...and before the game starts all players need to put on their footy boots
Nice post. Irrelevant drivel but nice and long.
You are probably the only person in Australia who thinks Brisbane's backline won them the game on Saturday.

You usually come on here and regurgitate opinions from people like Dermot Brereton but this time you went with your own brain fart.

Anyway...Well done on starting a thread.

At least it got the conversation going on the real reasons the Lions were so dominant
Been mentioned plenty just not by you stat watchers.
Lions defence kept Sydney to 5 goals in 3/4 of a game but hey it had no impact on the result.
Sorry you can't do that!! You quoted stats

There’s no irrelevant goals in a scoreboard Cocko.
You're brain fart headline is meaningless without context. The Grand Final wasn't won by the Lions backline... conversely the Lions mids and small forwards were awesome.

How many Lions defenders got votes in the Norm Smith? And ...if you want to blame Sydney's backline for that game... you're more stupid than I thought

This could go on forever because I know you won't concede that it was Brisbane's midfield dominance that set up the win.

You mentioned Dougal Howard and Cal Wilkie in your opening post. Tell me this oh wise one - would they have lined up on Lohmann and Ah Chee? Of course they wouldn't have.
Of course Howard wouldn’t have. He’d take Daniher but I think Ah Chee may have gone to Wilkie to try and quell his influence.

At the end of the day Sydney managed 5 goals in 3/4 of a Grand Final. Brisbanes defence destroyed Sydney. They repeatedly turned the ball over and exposed Sydney on the way out.


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Re: Defence wins finals not midfields

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D.B.Cooper wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 8:04pm
CURLY wrote: Sun 29 Sep 2024 9:07am Swans best midfield in the AFL and have been belted twice in Grand Finals.

Their defence is poor and they’ve been exposed as a result. Lyon has built our defence over the last two seasons and once the transition through our half backs to attack improves our game will stack up in big games.

It also helps to have a gun key tall forward like Max King to unsettle the opposition defence. Sydney’s talls offer little threat to a defence.
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Re: Defence wins finals not midfields

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Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 7:58pm Ah Chee, Lohmann and Morris kicked 10 goals between them. That's the final margin!!

Add Rayner and the goals from mids and it's a telling story.

158 marks versus 88. The Lions controlled the footy. Their entries inside 50 were clean.

The Lions mids were amongst the best for disposal efficiency of all players on the ground. 22 marks inside 50 is an indication of lack of pressure from Swans midfield.

The Swans key backs weren't slaughtered by the Lions KP Forwards

CURLY tells us the Swans backline lost the game
The real question is, how have you only just come to the realization that Curly is clueless?


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D.B.Cooper wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 8:06pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 7:58pm Ah Chee, Lohmann and Morris kicked 10 goals between them. That's the final margin!!

Add Rayner and the goals from mids and it's a telling story.

158 marks versus 88. The Lions controlled the footy. Their entries inside 50 were clean.

The Lions mids were amongst the best for disposal efficiency of all players on the ground. 22 marks inside 50 is an indication of lack of pressure from Swans midfield.

The Swans key backs weren't slaughtered by the Lions KP Forwards

CURLY tells us the Swans backline lost the game
The real question is, how have you only just come to the realization that Curly is clueless?
He can’t unless there’s a stat to look up other wise he has nothing.


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Re: Defence wins finals not midfields

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CURLY wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 8:15pm
D.B.Cooper wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 8:06pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 7:58pm Ah Chee, Lohmann and Morris kicked 10 goals between them. That's the final margin!!

Add Rayner and the goals from mids and it's a telling story.

158 marks versus 88. The Lions controlled the footy. Their entries inside 50 were clean.

The Lions mids were amongst the best for disposal efficiency of all players on the ground. 22 marks inside 50 is an indication of lack of pressure from Swans midfield.

The Swans key backs weren't slaughtered by the Lions KP Forwards

CURLY tells us the Swans backline lost the game
The real question is, how have you only just come to the realization that Curly is clueless?
He can’t unless there’s a stat to look up other wise he has nothing.
Yes. Harris Andrews is a good player. Yes. Starcevich had a very good game, but by no means were they the difference

You started the thread blaming the Swans players for the loss and then you switched and did a 180 degree turn and credited the Lions defence

You're not only a real jerk but you're a real dumb arse


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Re: Defence wins finals not midfields

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Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 8:32pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 8:15pm
D.B.Cooper wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 8:06pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 7:58pm Ah Chee, Lohmann and Morris kicked 10 goals between them. That's the final margin!!

Add Rayner and the goals from mids and it's a telling story.

158 marks versus 88. The Lions controlled the footy. Their entries inside 50 were clean.

The Lions mids were amongst the best for disposal efficiency of all players on the ground. 22 marks inside 50 is an indication of lack of pressure from Swans midfield.

The Swans key backs weren't slaughtered by the Lions KP Forwards

CURLY tells us the Swans backline lost the game
The real question is, how have you only just come to the realization that Curly is clueless?
He can’t unless there’s a stat to look up other wise he has nothing.
Yes. Harris Andrews is a good player. Yes. Starcevich had a very good game, but by no means were they the difference

You started the thread blaming the Swans players for the loss and then you switched and did a 180 degree turn and credited the Lions defence

You're not only a real jerk but you're a real dumb arse
Mmmmm now throwing off insults like a child.

As I said Sydney’s game is based on mids well it failed miserably again as defence wins finals.


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Yep, it was the Brisbane backs that beat the Sydney mids, you know it makes sense 🙃

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The_Dud wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 8:58pm Yep, it was the Brisbane backs that beat the Sydney mids, you know it makes sense 🙃

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And where theres Zig there must be Zag.

You have no clue you’re still trying to recover from your Howard comments.


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CURLY wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 9:01pm
The_Dud wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 8:58pm Yep, it was the Brisbane backs that beat the Sydney mids, you know it makes sense 🙃

#curlyknowsfootball
And where theres Zig there must be Zag.

You have no clue you’re still trying to recover from your Howard comments.
That AA Nick Blakey is better than Dougal? I’m pretty comfortable with that one!

You should lead all your opinions on football with ‘Dougal is better’, just so everyone knows straight up to ignore everything after that and not waste their time 😆


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Re: Defence wins finals not midfields

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CURLY wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 8:52pm
As I said Sydney’s game is based on mids well it failed miserably again as defence wins finals.
Yes. I know you want to ignore Brisbane's midfield dominance. I know you want to ignore how poor many of the Swans mids and half forwards played.

You're like someone who reads the last page of a book and ignores all the characters in every chapter.

I know you want to believe what you wrote but you can't compress an epic novel into a single page. You can't summarise a game with a cliche

Sometimes things aren't as simple to explain with a generalisation. You understand that don't you?
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Re: Defence wins finals not midfields

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The_Dud wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 9:05pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 9:01pm
The_Dud wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 8:58pm Yep, it was the Brisbane backs that beat the Sydney mids, you know it makes sense 🙃

#curlyknowsfootball
And where theres Zig there must be Zag.

You have no clue you’re still trying to recover from your Howard comments.
That AA Nick Blakey is better than Dougal? I’m pretty comfortable with that one!

You should lead all your opinions on football with ‘Dougal is better’, just so everyone knows straight up to ignore everything after that and not waste their time 😆
See that’s what makes you an imbecile amongst other things. No where did I say Howard was a better player. You of course as you know nothing can’t understand different players play different roles. I’d prefer Zane Cordy playing on the oppositions best key tall over Nick Daicos.

Now moron does that mean Zane is a better player than Nick.

Think now moron think.


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Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 9:05pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 8:52pm
As I said Sydney’s game is based on mids well it failed miserably again as defence wins finals.
Yes. I know you want to ignore Brisbane's midfield dominance. I know you want to ignore how poor many of the Swans mids and half forwards played.

You're like someone who reads the last page of a book and ignores all the characters in every chapter.

I know you want to believe what you wrote but you can't compress an epic novel into a single page. You can't summarise a game with a cliche

Sometimes things aren't as simple to explain with a generalisation. You understand that don't you?
Why were Sydney’s half forwards no good?


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Re: Defence wins finals not midfields

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CURLY wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 9:10pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 9:05pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 8:52pm
As I said Sydney’s game is based on mids well it failed miserably again as defence wins finals.
Yes. I know you want to ignore Brisbane's midfield dominance. I know you want to ignore how poor many of the Swans mids and half forwards played.

You're like someone who reads the last page of a book and ignores all the characters in every chapter.

I know you want to believe what you wrote but you can't compress an epic novel into a single page. You can't summarise a game with a cliche

Sometimes things aren't as simple to explain with a generalisation. You understand that don't you?
Why were Sydney’s half forwards no good?
If you see Firey at the scene of every fire, does that mean you put 2 and 2 together and blame him for starting the fires?

In other words do you just come to conclusions based on a brain fart?

Yes. Defenders were out in the field. So were forwards. So were midfielders


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Re: Defence wins finals not midfields

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Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 9:13pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 9:10pm
Scollop wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 9:05pm
CURLY wrote: Mon 30 Sep 2024 8:52pm
As I said Sydney’s game is based on mids well it failed miserably again as defence wins finals.
Yes. I know you want to ignore Brisbane's midfield dominance. I know you want to ignore how poor many of the Swans mids and half forwards played.

You're like someone who reads the last page of a book and ignores all the characters in every chapter.

I know you want to believe what you wrote but you can't compress an epic novel into a single page. You can't summarise a game with a cliche

Sometimes things aren't as simple to explain with a generalisation. You understand that don't you?
Why were Sydney’s half forwards no good?
If you see Firey at the scene of every fire, does that mean you put 2 and 2 together and blame him for starting the fires?

In other words do you just come to conclusions based on a brain fart?

Yes. Defenders were out in the field. So were forwards. So were midfielders
Oh hang on you’re one of them I understand now. You weren’t that good we just played badly. Yeah never beaten just played poorly.
So let me guess the Brisbane HB’s destroyed there half forwards.

Thank you


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Re: Defence wins finals not midfields

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That one smelt as bad as your first post

Another brain fart


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