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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

Post: # 1760807Post skeptic »

For whatever concerns I have about how we’re run atm, Lethlean seems to be doing a decent job


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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

Post: # 1760816Post SydneySainter »

skeptic wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 1:38pm For whatever concerns I have about how we’re run atm, Lethlean seems to be doing a decent job
He’s at least put us in the running for potentially some half-decent trades. His ability to get these across the line will be telling in just how good a job he’s doing currently. Not all mechanisms are in his control admittedly, but he’s talked the talk, now let’s see if he can walk.

IMO, he’ll need more than just the Hannebery trade.


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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

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skeptic wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 1:38pm For whatever concerns I have about how we’re run atm, Lethlean seems to be doing a decent job
You voted for Footy First so your judgement on anything must be questioned!

What's Leathlean done?

Delist Freeman and Goddard :evil:

Injury plagued Hannerbury on the decline ranked 355 in the league.
Are we topping up for a premiership tilt? Seriously.
Was offering our first round pick, stupid money and more for Shiel.


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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

Post: # 1760818Post The OtherThommo »

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl ... 16dqa.html

BREAKING NEWS
GWS star Dylan Shiel has nominated Essendon as his preferred destination for 2019


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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

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Good. 1.3 mill too much for him. Pick 4 stays with us.


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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

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st.byron wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 1:50pm Good. 1.3 mill too much for him. Pick 4 stays with us.
Agree


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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

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oh ffs.

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Post: # 1760822Post tedtheodorelogan2018 »

s*** happens. Had a crack.

Next...still got pick 4 and $2 mil to spend.


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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

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Anyone but them.

I can't stand their scum of the earth supporters and that slimy coach..

Scum.


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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

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st.byron wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 1:50pm Good. 1.3 mill too much for him. Pick 4 stays with us.
Yes, move on, no guarantee on pick 4 staying with us yet though!!!!! ;)


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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

Post: # 1760826Post derby Street »

SaintPav wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 1:59pm Anyone but them.

I can't stand their scum of the earth supporters and that slimy coach..

Scum.
Agree 100% and throw that creep Dildo in with that lot as well.


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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

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Unhappy that we didn't get him but only because he went to those turds. Not unhappy we keep pick 4 (just pray now we don't use it on anyone but the best pure midfielder in the draft)

Quite frankly, we would've done something stupid and paid with pick 4. Way overs. If The Injectors get him for their 1st and 2nd rounders this year and next; that will be about right. But faaarrrrk - $1.3m-ish is wow money. Like Chris Judd in his prime money. Shiel is a terrific player but that's a lot of your salary cap tied up in one guy. Who, whilst very good, is by no means a match winner.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - unlike Essendoom (and Norf), our entire club didn't give anyone a reason to come to us for 2019 and beyond and that is why I absolutely despise our CEO, Coach and playing group for the sh!t they turned out this year. And we won't be getting anyone until we show we've got something to offer over and above 4.5 wins.

Right now - there's no reason at all that a good player is coming to us by choice ... and we've seen how money alone is now completely and utterly irrelevant.
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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

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tedtheodorelogan2018 wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 1:58pm s*** happens. Had a crack.

Next...still got pick 4 and $2 mil to spend.
They said exactly the same with Picks 7 and 8 which were meant to land us a huge free agent last year.... with millions to spend.

Meant jack sh*t. Knowing our club, cos his name is jack, we'd probably try and pick him up.

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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

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Saintmatt wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:10pm Unhappy that we didn't get him but only because he went to those turds. Not unhappy we keep pick 4 (just pray now we don't use it on anyone but the best pure midfielder in the draft)

Quite frankly, we would've done something stupid and payed with pick 4. Way overs. If The Injectors get him for their 1st and 2nd rounders this year and next; that will be about right. But faaarrrrk - $1.3m-ish is wow money. Like Chris Judd in his prime money. Shiel is a terrific player but that's a lot of your salary cap tied up in one guy. Who, whilst very good, is by no means a match winner.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - unlike Essendoom (and Norf), our entire club didn't give anyone a reason to come to us for 2019 and beyond and that is why I absolutely despise our CEO, Coach and playing group for the sh!t they turned out this year. And we won't be getting anyone until we show we've got something to offer over and above 4.5 wins.

Right now - there's no reason at all that a good player is coming to us by choice ... and we've seen how money alone is now completely and utterly irrelevant.
Spot on!!!


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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

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stonecold wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:07pm
st.byron wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 1:50pm Good. 1.3 mill too much for him. Pick 4 stays with us.
Yes, move on, no guarantee on pick 4 staying with us yet though!!!!! ;)
Where would it go? Who else is on the market with a high first round value?


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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

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I'm relieved. We would most likely have had to give up this year and next year's first rounders. Wouldn't it have been nice to go into this year's draft with our first pick at 55 and next year's draft wth our first pick at about 40? I think not. Good luck to GWS having to deal with that universally despised maggot, Adrian Dodoro


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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

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Didn't pick that but happy as I didn't want him for our first round pick. He is good but not that good. What will it cost the bombers i wonder


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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

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He has basically conceeded $500k a year to NOT play at St.KIlda.
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Thanks Richo.
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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

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Oh well.


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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

Post: # 1760870Post skeptic »

Aussie Jonestown wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 1:49pm
skeptic wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 1:38pm For whatever concerns I have about how we’re run atm, Lethlean seems to be doing a decent job
You voted for Footy First so your judgement on anything must be questioned!

What's Leathlean done?

Delist Freeman and Goddard :evil:

Injury plagued Hannerbury on the decline ranked 355 in the league.
Are we topping up for a premiership tilt? Seriously.
Was offering our first round pick, stupid money and more for Shiel.
WTF?

a) he’s been around for what, 6 months so exactly what did you want to him to achieve?
b) I doubt he was involved in the decision to cut Goddard and Freeman
c) there weren’t exactly a lot alternatives to the circus that became the Butters show so yeah I voted for them and it was s bad decision

And finally d) if you can’t have a discussion without unnecessarily insulting someone you’re a giant tool.

I am not happy with the Saints and have been heavily critical about our decisions of late... that doesn’t mean it’s all on Lethlean who is at least trying to turn things around


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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

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st.byron wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:29pm
stonecold wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:07pm
st.byron wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 1:50pm Good. 1.3 mill too much for him. Pick 4 stays with us.
Yes, move on, no guarantee on pick 4 staying with us yet though!!!!! ;)
Where would it go? Who else is on the market with a high first round value?
It could go anywhere, on another contracted player (Plan B), or be swapped on draft night!!!!!


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Post: # 1760881Post Train9 »

Sorry everyone I got it wrong. Hopefully my bad information I received didn’t upset too many people.
Didn’t see that coming!
Hopefully the rest of the trade period can be good and have a successful draft.
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This trade period is already starting to have the smell about it as last season - all this big talk, declarations of being “aggressive,” but ultimately ends as a disappointment but the rose-tinted brigade lauds the club for giving it a red-hot go.

Lethlean and co. have been doing quite a bit of chest beating prior to this trade period, so it will take a lot more than just the Hannebery trade for this trade period to viewed as a success in my view.


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st.byron wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:29pm
stonecold wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:07pm
st.byron wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 1:50pm Good. 1.3 mill too much for him. Pick 4 stays with us.
Yes, move on, no guarantee on pick 4 staying with us yet though!!!!! ;)
Where would it go? Who else is on the market with a high first round value?
Don’t be surprised if it comes into talks of getting Wingard.


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Re: Monster deal for Dylan Shiel

Post: # 1760888Post cwrcyn »

North Melbourne fans would be thinking the same as us. All the gun players want to go to top 8 clubs or those obviously on a strong upward trajectory. With the Shiel thing, I bet Devon Smith had a small hand in it.


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