stinger wrote:Mr Magic wrote:So I'm still waiting for an explanation on how Ball is earning less at Collingwood than the offer from St Kilda?
Becasue to me, that is the nub of this whole orchestrated campaign to tarnish St Kilda, Lyon and Reiwoldt.
It is this notion that is being put out there by Collingwood and/or Ball that he didn't leave for more money, because they all know that, even if it is the truth?, nobody wants to be seen as a mercenary.
So they create this 'illusion' that
he wasn't 'wanted'
he wasn't 'valued'
he was 'thrown out'
he left for 'more game time'
his position at St Kilda was 'untenable'
he's on less money at Collingwod.
And all of this to try and deflect the notion that he left for a better deal.
Why is that so hard to accept?
Luke Ball got offered a better deal at Collingwood.
Obviously,
He's been guaranteed more game time by them.
He's been guaranteed he doesn't have to follow a game plan he either doesn't like or is physically incapable of carrying out.
He's been guaranteed that whatever he produces will be sufficient.
He's been guaranteed that his own evaluation of his fitness will be taken above that of the fitness staff employed.
I mean you would have to think he's been guaranteed all of that because everybody tells us that he didn't go for more money.
Logical isn't it?
you are starting to say and do the same things as jmsainter mm......making it up as you go along.....show me where anybody has said any of those things...and a bit of proof to justify the serious allegations you are making about ball......some of you guys need to get out a bit more...speak to supporters of opposition clubs......see what they think......you will find more of them are believing the sheahan line than the spin put out by the club......
Stinger,
firstly I'm not anybody else, neither am I a clone of anybody else.
And what have I said about Ball that you find so offensive?
Secondly, accusing me of making suff up doesn't win you any brownie points with me either. I've stayed out of your fights with others becasue t's had nothing to do with me. I'm not sure why you've decided you want to ahve a go at me now - just because you don't like my pov on this?
You obviously believe what you want to believe.
I choose not to accept the obvious (to me) BS being spun by Collingwood and it's apparatchiks over this.
You keep telling me that he didn't go for money.
Sheahan wrote that he is earning less at Collingwood than at St Kilda.
John Ralph gave ther most convoluted, hysterical, nonsensical reasoning as to why Sheahan's statement was correct.
You're the one on here stating that he was attempted to be traded.
Whislt I believe 100% that you were told that by a person whom you believe, I find it interesting that not a single reporter/person/poster/anybody has either confirmed that or even raised it.
I would have thought that all it needed to confirm Ball's 'story' was for him/his manager/his family/Collingwood/Maquire/Malthouse or anybody else spreading the crap that is being spread about St Kilda/Lyon/Reiwoldt to just let that 'little pearler' about trade atempt out and there would be nothing to discuss.
Instead we'vve had months of this nonsense being drip-fed to hand-picked journalists.
So if he didn't go for money, what did he leave for?
I don't believe he was guaranteed game time, so that trade week excuse is BS (IMO).
I don't believe he was sent packing by St Kilda, so that inference is BS(IMO).
I don't believe he left because he wasn't wanted, so that excuse is BS(IMO).
St Kilda must be a pretty poorly run Club if they leave contracts for 1 million dollars over 3 years lying around unsigned. Imagine how much the contract would be for players that they actually want?
To me there is absolutely no logic to this notion being put forward about Ball not being wanted etc. The actions of St Kilda that have been confirmed make no sense when viewed against this notion.
Therefore I come to the conclusion that i have.
I believe the Club, Coach and Captain in this instance.
I disbelieve Sheahan, Ralph, maguire, Malthouse and Ball's advisors on this issue.