yep....sad but true....Con Gorozidis wrote:quick acquittal. female jury.
they say female juries often dont sympathise with a victim in these cases. and if she was a good looking victim with a history of picking up footy players - then fellow fem's would judge her poorly.
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FOOTBALLER Andrew Lovett's ex-girlfriend claims she feared she would die as he held her hostage and bashed her.
Ms Watson told the Herald Sun Lovett bombarded her with 180 text messages for two months after their tumultuous breakup on February 4 last year.
In one, he allegedly said he was a "special person" who "could probably get away with murder".
pretty true...what he said....
FOOTBALLER Andrew Lovett's ex-girlfriend claims she feared she would die as he held her hostage and bashed her.
Ms Watson told the Herald Sun Lovett bombarded her with 180 text messages for two months after their tumultuous breakup on February 4 last year.
In one, he allegedly said he was a "special person" who "could probably get away with murder".
pretty true...what he said....
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on the flipside this case could have been just a bunch of bogans getting all tangled up in a pretty crappy situation of mistaken identity and mistakenly thinking that a woman was interested.stinger wrote:yep....sad but true....Con Gorozidis wrote:quick acquittal. female jury.
they say female juries often dont sympathise with a victim in these cases. and if she was a good looking victim with a history of picking up footy players - then fellow fem's would judge her poorly.
how the flower would you know troll.....Zac Attack wrote:on the flipside this case could have been just a bunch of bogans getting all tangled up in a pretty crappy situation of mistaken identity and mistakenly thinking that a woman was interested.stinger wrote:yep....sad but true....Con Gorozidis wrote:quick acquittal. female jury.
they say female juries often dont sympathise with a victim in these cases. and if she was a good looking victim with a history of picking up footy players - then fellow fem's would judge her poorly.
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
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how the flower would you know cleaner? prosecution does not share information with outsiders let alone cleaners.stinger wrote:how the flower would you know troll.....Zac Attack wrote:on the flipside this case could have been just a bunch of bogans getting all tangled up in a pretty crappy situation of mistaken identity and mistakenly thinking that a woman was interested.stinger wrote:yep....sad but true....Con Gorozidis wrote:quick acquittal. female jury.
they say female juries often dont sympathise with a victim in these cases. and if she was a good looking victim with a history of picking up footy players - then fellow fem's would judge her poorly.
dropkick...Zac Attack wrote:how the flower would you know cleaner? prosecution does not share information with outsiders let alone cleaners.stinger wrote:how the flower would you know troll.....Zac Attack wrote:on the flipside this case could have been just a bunch of bogans getting all tangled up in a pretty crappy situation of mistaken identity and mistakenly thinking that a woman was interested.stinger wrote:yep....sad but true....Con Gorozidis wrote:quick acquittal. female jury.
they say female juries often dont sympathise with a victim in these cases. and if she was a good looking victim with a history of picking up footy players - then fellow fem's would judge her poorly.
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Awww Stinger, that's low even for you.stinger wrote:P
FOOTBALLER Andrew Lovett's ex-girlfriend claims she feared she would die as he held her hostage and bashed her.
Ms Watson told the Herald Sun Lovett bombarded her with 180 text messages for two months after their tumultuous breakup on February 4 last year.
In one, he allegedly said he was a "special person" who "could probably get away with murder".
pretty true...what he said....
You are reporting hearsay on what he allegedly said and implying that he did in fact "get away with murder" in regard to this case.
The verdict was "Not Guilty"; accept it and move on, and don't muddy the waters with your churlish bias.
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Ahhhh love ya, Stinger.stinger wrote:dropkick...Zac Attack wrote:how the flower would you know cleaner? prosecution does not share information with outsiders let alone cleaners.stinger wrote:how the flower would you know troll.....Zac Attack wrote:on the flipside this case could have been just a bunch of bogans getting all tangled up in a pretty crappy situation of mistaken identity and mistakenly thinking that a woman was interested.stinger wrote:yep....sad but true....Con Gorozidis wrote:quick acquittal. female jury.
they say female juries often dont sympathise with a victim in these cases. and if she was a good looking victim with a history of picking up footy players - then fellow fem's would judge her poorly.
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I don't know what an "Eligation" is, so I am assuming you are referring to allegations.mullet wrote:Apparantly Lovett had sex with another woman after the alleged incident and according to the herald sun.
Obviously he was hurt at the eligations.
My question is, "How long do you expect him to be celibate?"
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Hardly. He's just saying what many of us think.GrumpyOne wrote: Awww Stinger, that's low even for you.
You are reporting hearsay on what he allegedly said and implying that he did in fact "get away with murder" in regard to this case.
The verdict was "Not Guilty"; accept it and move on, and don't muddy the waters with your churlish bias.
It is well known that rape cases are difficult to get to court, never mind to prosecute. Why is that? Is it because the women are in the habit of lying about being raped? Is it likely that a woman would put herself through the trauma of going through a court case, on top of the original trauma? What are the benefits for the woman of doing that?
I don't think so. It is a travesty that because of the verdict in this high profile case that there are young blokes out there who will think it is fair game to have a crack at a drunken, nearly comatose woman for sex, and that it will further put assaulted women off seeking legal redress for crimes that are committed against them.
I'm sorry that it offends you GO, but for some of us this is a sad day for society and diminishes our respect for the legal system.
Hird... The unflushable one is now... just a turd...
can we select him for this week???
Lance or James??
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
and you know where you can go creep.....not guilty has never meant innocent ....and i will never regard f****** a drunk girl as okay....the guys an animal....GrumpyOne wrote:Awww Stinger, that's low even for you.stinger wrote:P
FOOTBALLER Andrew Lovett's ex-girlfriend claims she feared she would die as he held her hostage and bashed her.
Ms Watson told the Herald Sun Lovett bombarded her with 180 text messages for two months after their tumultuous breakup on February 4 last year.
In one, he allegedly said he was a "special person" who "could probably get away with murder".
pretty true...what he said....
You are reporting hearsay on what he allegedly said and implying that he did in fact "get away with murder" in regard to this case.
The verdict was "Not Guilty"; accept it and move on, and don't muddy the waters with your churlish bias.
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well said mate. i wouldn't let any daughter of mine put herself through that process..it's like getting raped a second time....and victims have actually said that in my presence....Richter wrote:Hardly. He's just saying what many of us think.GrumpyOne wrote: Awww Stinger, that's low even for you.
You are reporting hearsay on what he allegedly said and implying that he did in fact "get away with murder" in regard to this case.
The verdict was "Not Guilty"; accept it and move on, and don't muddy the waters with your churlish bias.
It is well known that rape cases are difficult to get to court, never mind to prosecute. Why is that? Is it because the women are in the habit of lying about being raped? Is it likely that a woman would put herself through the trauma of going through a court case, on top of the original trauma? What are the benefits for the woman of doing that?
I don't think so. It is a travesty that because of the verdict in this high profile case that there are young blokes out there who will think it is fair game to have a crack at a drunken, nearly comatose woman for sex, and that it will further put assaulted women off seeking legal redress for crimes that are committed against them.
I'm sorry that it offends you GO, but for some of us this is a sad day for society and diminishes our respect for the legal system.
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So he is guilty even though found not guilty?Richter wrote:Hardly. He's just saying what many of us think.GrumpyOne wrote: Awww Stinger, that's low even for you.
You are reporting hearsay on what he allegedly said and implying that he did in fact "get away with murder" in regard to this case.
The verdict was "Not Guilty"; accept it and move on, and don't muddy the waters with your churlish bias.
It is well known that rape cases are difficult to get to court, never mind to prosecute. Why is that? Is it because the women are in the habit of lying about being raped? Is it likely that a woman would put herself through the trauma of going through a court case, on top of the original trauma? What are the benefits for the woman of doing that?
I don't think so. It is a travesty that because of the verdict in this high profile case that there are young blokes out there who will think it is fair game to have a crack at a drunken, nearly comatose woman for sex, and that it will further put assaulted women off seeking legal redress for crimes that are committed against them.
I'm sorry that it offends you GO, but for some of us this is a sad day for society and diminishes our respect for the legal system.
Not much different between his status now and Milney is there?
Are we as low as the filth supporters who still chant rapist at Milne?
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Terrible response Richter.Richter wrote:Hardly. He's just saying what many of us think.GrumpyOne wrote: Awww Stinger, that's low even for you.
You are reporting hearsay on what he allegedly said and implying that he did in fact "get away with murder" in regard to this case.
The verdict was "Not Guilty"; accept it and move on, and don't muddy the waters with your churlish bias.
It is well known that rape cases are difficult to get to court, never mind to prosecute. Why is that? Is it because the women are in the habit of lying about being raped? Is it likely that a woman would put herself through the trauma of going through a court case, on top of the original trauma? What are the benefits for the woman of doing that?
I don't think so. It is a travesty that because of the verdict in this high profile case that there are young blokes out there who will think it is fair game to have a crack at a drunken, nearly comatose woman for sex, and that it will further put assaulted women off seeking legal redress for crimes that are committed against them.
I'm sorry that it offends you GO, but for some of us this is a sad day for society and diminishes our respect for the legal system.
Dispite the star chambers and kangaroo courts going on here, we have a rule of law in Australia and one of the tenets is the accused has the presumption of innocence and the proscetution has to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the crime was committed.
Nobody here sat on the jury. Nobody here heard all of the evidence.
The prosecution obviously could not prove "beyond reasonable doubt" that lovett committed the crime he was accused of.
I for one, am happy we have this type of legal system in Australia and that presumption of innocence will be applied to me or my loved one if accused of a crime.
The evidence was tested and found wanting.
Or maybe the police should have fabricated evidence against Lovett. After all that has happened for years to minority groups like aborigines.
maybe the police should have done what the Brits did to the Guildford four and Birmingham six, after all they were just paddy bastards who "probably did it anyway".
Yes it is hard to get a rape conviction. Yes it is traumatic for a victim of a sexual assault.
But to blithely dismiss the ruling of a jury on available evidence smacks of gross smallmindedness.
Wholly disgusted with the ignorance displayed on this thread.
Lance or James??
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
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Seeing that it was his defense that he felt hurt and upset by the way he was being treated by those at the apartment would think that finding another woman and having sex with her would be the last thing on his mind.GrumpyOne wrote:I don't know what an "Eligation" is, so I am assuming you are referring to allegations.mullet wrote:Apparantly Lovett had sex with another woman after the alleged incident and according to the herald sun.
Obviously he was hurt at the eligations.
My question is, "How long do you expect him to be celibate?"
But who am I, would think this information should have been given to the jury though.
Anyway he has been found not guilty so good luck to him
Oh so sorry about spelling mistake should I be banned
as they say mate...don't let the bed bugs bite...some here think that just because a jury acquits you, you are as pure as the newly born and that sh!t never sticks...bet the same posters wouldn't let this prick go out with their daughters though.....Richter wrote:
Hardly. He's just saying what many of us think.
It is well known that rape cases are difficult to get to court, never mind to prosecute. Why is that? Is it because the women are in the habit of lying about being raped? Is it likely that a woman would put herself through the trauma of going through a court case, on top of the original trauma? What are the benefits for the woman of doing that?
I don't think so. It is a travesty that because of the verdict in this high profile case that there are young blokes out there who will think it is fair game to have a crack at a drunken, nearly comatose woman for sex, and that it will further put assaulted women off seeking legal redress for crimes that are committed against them.
I'm sorry that it offends you GO, but for some of us this is a sad day for society and diminishes our respect for the legal system.
to me lovett is in the same situation as that woman who was just acquitted of murdering her daughter in the good old u s of a....and for the uniformed and uneducated on here...think o j
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maybe for having a mullet, or just being a mullet.mullet wrote: Oh so sorry about spelling mistake should I be banned
Not a blind mullet per chance?
Lance or James??
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
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If there is any problems with the Australian Justice System, it is because creeps like you inhabit it.stinger wrote:and you know where you can go creep.....not guilty has never meant innocent ....and i will never regard f****** a drunk girl as okay....the guys an animal....GrumpyOne wrote:Awww Stinger, that's low even for you.stinger wrote:P
FOOTBALLER Andrew Lovett's ex-girlfriend claims she feared she would die as he held her hostage and bashed her.
Ms Watson told the Herald Sun Lovett bombarded her with 180 text messages for two months after their tumultuous breakup on February 4 last year.
In one, he allegedly said he was a "special person" who "could probably get away with murder".
pretty true...what he said....
You are reporting hearsay on what he allegedly said and implying that he did in fact "get away with murder" in regard to this case.
The verdict was "Not Guilty"; accept it and move on, and don't muddy the waters with your churlish bias.
Accept the verdict. We have got past vigilante's stringing up the nearest black man in this country.
Well, some of us have.....
Australia...... Live it like we stole it....... Because we did.