I Support the Club

[stinger]

Are the DNA results in yet?

now that's the sort of rubbish that ruins all your arguments...

..stop with the childish insults ffs.....you are insulting ball, thomas and ball's mother.....or don't you care.....??

[degruch]

Hey OLB and Joffaboy

Are you guys going tonight?

Have you guys met before?

No, never met before but if this place is anything to go by, what might start as friendly ribbing would, in the space of about five minutes, turn into the two of us smashing pint glasses over each others heads.

Our little tete-a-tetes are part of my Saintsational experience.

Is this OLB and Joffaboy pictured here:

http://thingsboganslike.wordpress.com/2 ... ing-c***s/

Saintsational drinks have the potential to liven up...Matrix, get the popcorn!

[meher baba]

Thank you for the comic relief Mr Baba. Nice to see one line comments rather than your usual remblings. Keep up the good work.

Do you find that insulting people comes naturally, or do you have to work at it?

[barks4eva]

Stinger you know SFA!

You were not there in the rooms, you did not witness what happened, you did not see how Ball took criticism, you did not see just how miserably Ball followed instructions etc...etc...

What you did see was a footballer crucified by Grant Thomas's "training services' and turned into half the player he was while getting paid twice as much as he was worth and the only St kilda player to breach the interchange rule and the only player in the AFL to do it twice!

You have NFI and for you to outright make comment about how Ross Lyon disrespected Luke Ball is the height of all ignorance!

[The Craw]

Thank you for the comic relief Mr Baba. Nice to see one line comments rather than your usual remblings. Keep up the good work.

If you are going to be a sm@rt @rse, can you at least make sure you can spell!

[bigred]

Are the DNA results in yet?

Definately GT's kid.

[JMsainter]

Thank you for the comic relief Mr Baba. Nice to see one line comments rather than your usual remblings. Keep up the good work.

If you are going to be a sm@rt @rse, can you at least make sure you can spell!

Sorry. That was my Sth African accent. It sort of rubbed off on me from my wife, who isn't really Sth African any more because she's an Australian citizen, according to Mr Baba.

[SENsei]

Thank you for the comic relief Mr Baba. Nice to see one line comments rather than your usual remblings. Keep up the good work.

If you are going to be a sm@rt @rse, can you at least make sure you can spell!

Sorry. That was my Sth African accent. It sort of rubbed off on me from my wife, who isn't really Sth African any more because she's an Australian citizen, according to Mr Baba.

Oh FFS.

And HD labelled the others troublemakers!! Oh the dripping irony.

[Mr Magic]

So I'm still waiting for an explanation on how Ball is earning less at Collingwood than the offer from St Kilda?

Becasue to me, that is the nub of this whole orchestrated campaign to tarnish St Kilda, Lyon and Reiwoldt.

It is this notion that is being put out there by Collingwood and/or Ball that he didn't leave for more money, because they all know that, even if it is the truth?, nobody wants to be seen as a mercenary.

So they create this 'illusion' that
he wasn't 'wanted'
he wasn't 'valued'
he was 'thrown out'
he left for 'more game time'
his position at St Kilda was 'untenable'
he's on less money at Collingwod.

And all of this to try and deflect the notion that he left for a better deal.

Why is that so hard to accept?

Luke Ball got offered a better deal at Collingwood.
Obviously,
He's been guaranteed more game time by them.

He's been guaranteed he doesn't have to follow a game plan he either doesn't like or is physically incapable of carrying out.

He's been guaranteed that whatever he produces will be sufficient.

He's been guaranteed that his own evaluation of his fitness will be taken above that of the fitness staff employed.

I mean you would have to think he's been guaranteed all of that because everybody tells us that he didn't go for more money.

Logical isn't it?

[JMsainter]

Thank you for the comic relief Mr Baba. Nice to see one line comments rather than your usual remblings. Keep up the good work.

If you are going to be a sm@rt @rse, can you at least make sure you can spell!

Sorry. That was my Sth African accent. It sort of rubbed off on me from my wife, who isn't really Sth African any more because she's an Australian citizen, according to Mr Baba.

Oh FFS.

And HD labelled the others troublemakers!! Oh the dripping irony.

You seem a fair and reasonable person, so may I suggest that you back and read how this came about? Then, and only then, if you can impartially sum it up, then feel free to pass judgement on me.

[SENsei]

Thank you for the comic relief Mr Baba. Nice to see one line comments rather than your usual remblings. Keep up the good work.

If you are going to be a sm@rt @rse, can you at least make sure you can spell!

Sorry. That was my Sth African accent. It sort of rubbed off on me from my wife, who isn't really Sth African any more because she's an Australian citizen, according to Mr Baba.

Oh FFS.

And HD labelled the others troublemakers!! Oh the dripping irony.

You seem a fair and reasonable person, so may I suggest that you back and read how this came about? Then, and only then, if you can impartially sum it up, then feel free to pass judgement on me.

I know exactly how this came about. I had no problem until you decided to play your race card again.

Pathetic.

[bigred]

this thread is full of win.

[IluvHarvey]

Haven't we had enough threads that have ended this way?
I'm sorry but I am so over it!!!!!!

[MCG-Unit]

Reading between the lines, I think that was a nice way of saying that Ball left for more money.

In other words:

We give players every opportunity to excell.
Club offer Ball a contract "relative" to his value to the team.
Ball's "relativities" are higher than the club's.
Ball is dropped and probably cracks it.
Conners sounds out opposition clubs to see what their "relativites" towards Ball might be.
Pies indicate that Ball might fit into their theory of "relativities".
Ball continues to play, and is selected in the Grand Final (despit Ross hating him).
Upon confirmation, Ball leaves for the Pies.
Ball pisses on his mates who lowered their "relativites" to keep the group together.
Ball could find himself crying again after this year's Grand Final - for all the wrong reasons.

I disagree also, with all the crapola heaped on Luke Ball - where did you get most of this ? - enough already on Ball

My interpretation of events. In other words, my opinion. This is my view of what might have happened. Good luck to Luke if he sought a better deal. I'mnot begrudging him that. I hope he hasn't made the wrong decision.

Well that's your opinion, and you likely have 90% support on these boards, of those game enough to speak up without being trampled under foot - don't know about 'Ball...probably cracks it' and 'Ball p!issing on his teamates'

Lyon said expectations on both sides were not met. I don't think it's all one-way traffic

[HarveysDeciple]

Play the ball not the man guys.

Barks, try not to get personal, likewise stinger.

And JMSainter you have also referred to people as idiot's etc in this thread too so it definitely applies to you as well.

And try not to bring your grudges into the argument...whoever you are.

That's part of the reason why arguments erupt like what's led to the action in the general forum. Certain people see a name of a poster and can't resist.

It's been fairly mellow in this thread, so it's just a heads up to be careful.

[JMsainter]

Thank you for the comic relief Mr Baba. Nice to see one line comments rather than your usual remblings. Keep up the good work.

If you are going to be a sm@rt @rse, can you at least make sure you can spell!

Sorry. That was my Sth African accent. It sort of rubbed off on me from my wife, who isn't really Sth African any more because she's an Australian citizen, according to Mr Baba.

Oh FFS.

And HD labelled the others troublemakers!! Oh the dripping irony.

You seem a fair and reasonable person, so may I suggest that you back and read how this came about? Then, and only then, if you can impartially sum it up, then feel free to pass judgement on me.

I know exactly how this came about. I had no problem until you decided to play your race card again.

Pathetic.

My sincerest apologies. Wrong thread mate. The comments about my wife was said in jest, if that's what you are referring to? I suggest you read the Lovett thread, then tell me again. I wasn't playing the race card above.

[markp]

So I'm still waiting for an explanation on how Ball is earning less at Collingwood than the offer from St Kilda?

Becasue to me, that is the nub of this whole orchestrated campaign to tarnish St Kilda, Lyon and Reiwoldt.

It is this notion that is being put out there by Collingwood and/or Ball that he didn't leave for more money, because they all know that, even if it is the truth?, nobody wants to be seen as a mercenary.

So they create this 'illusion' that
he wasn't 'wanted'
he wasn't 'valued'
he was 'thrown out'
he left for 'more game time'
his position at St Kilda was 'untenable'
he's on less money at Collingwod.

And all of this to try and deflect the notion that he left for a better deal.

Why is that so hard to accept?

Luke Ball got offered a better deal at Collingwood.
Obviously,
He's been guaranteed more game time by them.

He's been guaranteed he doesn't have to follow a game plan he either doesn't like or is physically incapable of carrying out.

He's been guaranteed that whatever he produces will be sufficient.

He's been guaranteed that his own evaluation of his fitness will be taken above that of the fitness staff employed.

I mean you would have to think he's been guaranteed all of that because everybody tells us that he didn't go for more money.

Logical isn't it?

Can anyone say with a straight face that if we'd matched his last contract, he'd probably still have left?

[stinger]

Stinger you know SFA!

You were not there in the rooms, you did not witness what happened, you did not see how Ball took criticism, you did not see just how miserably Ball followed instructions etc...etc...



You have NFI and for you to outright make comment about how Ross Lyon disrespected Luke Ball is the height of all ignorance!

with respect b4...neither were you.....and would you like to point out to me exactly where i said that ross disrespected ball......


and could you stop with the nfi and ignorance nonsense.....

[stinger]

Thank you for the comic relief Mr Baba. Nice to see one line comments rather than your usual remblings. Keep up the good work.

If you are going to be a sm@rt @rse, can you at least make sure you can spell!

Sorry. That was my Sth African accent. It sort of rubbed off on me from my wife, who isn't really Sth African any more because she's an Australian citizen, according to Mr Baba.

i seriously doubt that you are married to anyone fwiw.....

[JMsainter]

Reading between the lines, I think that was a nice way of saying that Ball left for more money.

In other words:

We give players every opportunity to excell.
Club offer Ball a contract "relative" to his value to the team.
Ball's "relativities" are higher than the club's.
Ball is dropped and probably cracks it.
Conners sounds out opposition clubs to see what their "relativites" towards Ball might be.
Pies indicate that Ball might fit into their theory of "relativities".
Ball continues to play, and is selected in the Grand Final (despit Ross hating him).
Upon confirmation, Ball leaves for the Pies.
Ball pisses on his mates who lowered their "relativites" to keep the group together.
Ball could find himself crying again after this year's Grand Final - for all the wrong reasons.

I disagree also, with all the crapola heaped on Luke Ball - where did you get most of this ? - enough already on Ball

My interpretation of events. In other words, my opinion. This is my view of what might have happened. Good luck to Luke if he sought a better deal. I'mnot begrudging him that. I hope he hasn't made the wrong decision.

Well that's your opinion, and you likely have 90% support on these boards, of those game enough to speak up without being trampled under foot - don't know about 'Ball...probably cracks it' and 'Ball p!issing on his teamates'

Lyon said expectations on both sides were not met. I don't think it's all one-way traffic

I don't think it's about having support. Just my views on the matter. And no I don't hink it was one way traffic. My comments were my interpretation of Ross' comments if you check closeley. Heavans above, who in their right mind would stick around a job, if they didn't feel they were treated right?

I found Ross' comments to be very telling. And let's not forget that the Collingwood rumours surfaced way before trade week. So where do we draw the line? Is it sad that Luke left? Hell yes. But, that's life.

[stinger]

So I'm still waiting for an explanation on how Ball is earning less at Collingwood than the offer from St Kilda?

Becasue to me, that is the nub of this whole orchestrated campaign to tarnish St Kilda, Lyon and Reiwoldt.

It is this notion that is being put out there by Collingwood and/or Ball that he didn't leave for more money, because they all know that, even if it is the truth?, nobody wants to be seen as a mercenary.

So they create this 'illusion' that
he wasn't 'wanted'
he wasn't 'valued'
he was 'thrown out'
he left for 'more game time'
his position at St Kilda was 'untenable'
he's on less money at Collingwod.

And all of this to try and deflect the notion that he left for a better deal.

Why is that so hard to accept?

Luke Ball got offered a better deal at Collingwood.
Obviously,
He's been guaranteed more game time by them.

He's been guaranteed he doesn't have to follow a game plan he either doesn't like or is physically incapable of carrying out.

He's been guaranteed that whatever he produces will be sufficient.

He's been guaranteed that his own evaluation of his fitness will be taken above that of the fitness staff employed.

I mean you would have to think he's been guaranteed all of that because everybody tells us that he didn't go for more money.



Logical isn't it?

you are starting to say and do the same things as jmsainter mm......making it up as you go along.....show me where anybody has said any of those things...and a bit of proof to justify the serious allegations you are making about ball......some of you guys need to get out a bit more...speak to supporters of opposition clubs......see what they think......you will find more of them are believing the sheahan line than the spin put out by the club......

[JMsainter]

Thank you for the comic relief Mr Baba. Nice to see one line comments rather than your usual remblings. Keep up the good work.

If you are going to be a sm@rt @rse, can you at least make sure you can spell!

Sorry. That was my Sth African accent. It sort of rubbed off on me from my wife, who isn't really Sth African any more because she's an Australian citizen, according to Mr Baba.

i seriously doubt that you are married to anyone fwiw.....

Read your sig, Stinger. Or seek help. Either way: Quit stalking my posts.

[JMsainter]

So I'm still waiting for an explanation on how Ball is earning less at Collingwood than the offer from St Kilda?

Becasue to me, that is the nub of this whole orchestrated campaign to tarnish St Kilda, Lyon and Reiwoldt.

It is this notion that is being put out there by Collingwood and/or Ball that he didn't leave for more money, because they all know that, even if it is the truth?, nobody wants to be seen as a mercenary.

So they create this 'illusion' that
he wasn't 'wanted'
he wasn't 'valued'
he was 'thrown out'
he left for 'more game time'
his position at St Kilda was 'untenable'
he's on less money at Collingwod.

And all of this to try and deflect the notion that he left for a better deal.

Why is that so hard to accept?

Luke Ball got offered a better deal at Collingwood.
Obviously,
He's been guaranteed more game time by them.

He's been guaranteed he doesn't have to follow a game plan he either doesn't like or is physically incapable of carrying out.

He's been guaranteed that whatever he produces will be sufficient.

He's been guaranteed that his own evaluation of his fitness will be taken above that of the fitness staff employed.

I mean you would have to think he's been guaranteed all of that because everybody tells us that he didn't go for more money.



Logical isn't it?

you are starting to say and do the same things as jmsainter mm......making it up as you go along.....show me where anybody has said any of those things...and a bit of proof to justify the serious allegations you are making about ball......some of you guys need to get out a bit more...speak to supporters of opposition clubs......see what they think......you will find more of them are believing the sheahan line than the spin put out by the club......

Huh? Are you saying that opposition supporters opions matter more to you? Or that they more? I've spoken to some opposition supporters and most of them reckon that he was over rated. So they must be right, eh stinger?

Personally, I don't care what Sheahan or opposition supporters think.

I Support My Club!

[joffaboy]

Hey OLB and Joffaboy

Are you guys going tonight?

Have you guys met before?

No, never met before but if this place is anything to go by, what might start as friendly ribbing would, in the space of about five minutes, turn into the two of us smashing pint glasses over each others heads.

Our little tete-a-tetes are part of my Saintsational experience.

Is this OLB and Joffaboy pictured here:

http://thingsboganslike.wordpress.com/2 ... ing-c***s/

Saintsational drinks have the potential to liven up...Matrix, get the popcorn!

lol - beat me to it bogue oops wrong forum

I knew all the Ed Hardy, Chevvy ute, Kings of Leon references weren't in vain.

I'll get a lift to the next 20/20 with OLB, so he can play me his newest MoS compliation - lulz gr8t

[stinger]

So I'm still waiting for an explanation on how Ball is earning less at Collingwood than the offer from St Kilda?

Becasue to me, that is the nub of this whole orchestrated campaign to tarnish St Kilda, Lyon and Reiwoldt.

It is this notion that is being put out there by Collingwood and/or Ball that he didn't leave for more money, because they all know that, even if it is the truth?, nobody wants to be seen as a mercenary.

So they create this 'illusion' that
he wasn't 'wanted'
he wasn't 'valued'
he was 'thrown out'
he left for 'more game time'
his position at St Kilda was 'untenable'
he's on less money at Collingwod.

And all of this to try and deflect the notion that he left for a better deal.

Why is that so hard to accept?

Luke Ball got offered a better deal at Collingwood.
Obviously,
He's been guaranteed more game time by them.

He's been guaranteed he doesn't have to follow a game plan he either doesn't like or is physically incapable of carrying out.

He's been guaranteed that whatever he produces will be sufficient.

He's been guaranteed that his own evaluation of his fitness will be taken above that of the fitness staff employed.

I mean you would have to think he's been guaranteed all of that because everybody tells us that he didn't go for more money.



Logical isn't it?

you are starting to say and do the same things as jmsainter mm......making it up as you go along.....show me where anybody has said any of those things...and a bit of proof to justify the serious allegations you are making about ball......some of you guys need to get out a bit more...speak to supporters of opposition clubs......see what they think......you will find more of them are believing the sheahan line than the spin put out by the club......

Huh? Are you saying that opposition supporters opions matter more to you? Or that they more? I've spoken to some opposition supporters and most of them reckon that he was over rated. So they must be right, eh stinger?

Personally, I don't care what Sheahan or opposition supporters think.

I Support My Club!

stop stalking my posts....