No deal with Magpies over Ball, says Lyon

barks4eva · Post: # 844921Post **barks4eva** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 4:58pm

WE ARE ONE

St. Luke · Post: # 844926Post **St. Luke** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 5:02pm

I didn't know JB was old enough to be married???? Seriously, you're joking! He carries on like a 10 yr old!

AnythingsPossibleSaints · Thu 08 Oct 2009 5:03pm

"Karma"- What goes around, comes around/you get what you give.

Eastern · Post: # 844929Post **Eastern** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 5:03pm

SainterK wrote:Paul Connors is confident Luke will be a magpie by 2.00pm tomorrow....further names that have been thrown up as a possible trade on SEN rumour mill.

Chris Dawes
Sharrod Wellingham
Jack Anthony

Paul Connors was pedalling a similar story early this morning. He seems to have plenty of time to talk to the media. Or, is he starting to panic? !!

groupie1 · Post: # 844942Post **groupie1** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 5:10pm

BringBackMadDog wrote:Ball is a perfect fit for Collingwood.

Imagine this:
One Ball
A Dick
A Cox
A Goldsack
And 35 other useless c*nts

PERFECT!!

Gold

mbogo · Post: # 845271Post **mbogo** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 7:50pm

groupie1 wrote:
BringBackMadDog wrote:Ball is a perfect fit for Collingwood.

Imagine this:
One Ball
A Dick
A Cox
A Goldsack
And 35 other useless c*nts

PERFECT!!
Gold

How about that?
So the reason Collingwood is chasing Luke Ball is because they have already got a Dick, Cox and Goldsack - but they have not had any Balls?

S.A Saint · Post: # 845276Post **S.A Saint** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 7:53pm

mbogo wrote:
groupie1 wrote:
BringBackMadDog wrote:Ball is a perfect fit for Collingwood.

Imagine this:
One Ball
A Dick
A Cox
A Goldsack
And 35 other useless c*nts

PERFECT!!
Gold
How about that?
So the reason Collingwood is chasing Luke Ball is because they have already got a Dick, Cox and Goldsack - but they have not had any Balls?

then they can all have a jolly good time

Armoooo · Post: # 845277Post **Armoooo** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 7:53pm

Eastern wrote:
SainterK wrote:Paul Connors is confident Luke will be a magpie by 2.00pm tomorrow....further names that have been thrown up as a possible trade on SEN rumour mill.

Chris Dawes
Sharrod Wellingham
Jack Anthony
Paul Connors was pedalling a similar story early this morning. He seems to have plenty of time to talk to the media. Or, is he starting to panic? !!

Dawes and Wellingham no thanks.
Anthony YES PLEASE!!

Statsman · Post: # 845281Post **Statsman** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:00pm

Armoooo wrote:Dawes and Wellingham no thanks.
Anthony YES PLEASE!!

Is that the same Anthony that had about a handful of touches in the entire finals series? He's a nice kick for goal, but he needs to get his hands on it first.

claystreet · Post: # 845287Post **claystreet** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:05pm

Anthony kicked 50 for the year

Dawes ran around in the VFL

Wellingham has some pace and can kick

Dan Warna · Post: # 845289Post **Dan Warna** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:07pm

unless st kilda breaks even on the trade, let him go to the dees.

I don't see why we have to help collingwood..fuckem.

joffaboy · Post: # 845296Post **joffaboy** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:10pm

Speculation at BF

Collingwood - Ball
WB - #30 Dawes
Saints - Everitt.

The posters seemed pretty confident but it IS tradeweek

Bardon Saint · Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:16pm

joffaboy wrote:Speculation at BF

Collingwood - Ball
WB - #30 Dawes
Saints - Everitt.

The posters seemed pretty confident but it IS tradeweek

I'd be happy with that. Well as happy as you could get after losing Ball. It beats a straight swap for a pies munter. Everitt has potential.

Sainterman · Post: # 845315Post **Sainterman** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:21pm

Bardon Saint wrote:
joffaboy wrote:Speculation at BF

Collingwood - Ball
WB - #30 Dawes
Saints - Everitt.

The posters seemed pretty confident but it IS tradeweek
I'd be happy with that. Well as happy as you could get after losing Ball. It beats a straight swap for a pies munter. Everitt has potential.

So Ball for Everitt, not too sure...I think we need something else thrown in. Effectively it is like getting a second rounder for Ball and then on trading to Bulldogs....would we be happy with this?

Statsman · Post: # 845323Post **Statsman** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:24pm

Given what we're seeing in the trade market, Ball is worth a pick in the low-to-mid 20s. Pick 30 is a bit undervalue perhaps, but about right. If Colingwood adds Dawes to the Doggies to get us Everitt I think that's a pretty good deal.

Sainterman · Post: # 845326Post **Sainterman** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:26pm

Statsman wrote:Given what we're seeing in the trade market, Ball is worth a pick in the low-to-mid 20s. Pick 30 is a bit undervalue perhaps, but about right. If Colingwood adds Dawes to the Doggies to get us Everitt I think that's a pretty good deal.

Would have thought it a little fairer had we received pick 30 and Everitt...

xander · Post: # 845329Post **xander** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:27pm

I wouldn't mind that deal. Seems like we won't be able to get much better unfortunately.

3rd generation saint · Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:27pm

Hey if they want to give us Anthony, I'd jump on it.
We needed more pace, get Lovett and Peake, we need a third forward, bingo Anthony.
Mind you, I don't think the filth are stupid enough to trade away one of their best forwards, but then again, they just might be.

Statsman · Post: # 845331Post **Statsman** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:27pm

Nah, you wouldn't get a 2nd rounder and a somewhat promising player for Ball these days.

yipper · Post: # 845333Post **yipper** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:30pm

Statsman wrote:Given what we're seeing in the trade market, Ball is worth a pick in the low-to-mid 20s. Pick 30 is a bit undervalue perhaps, but about right. If Colingwood adds Dawes to the Doggies to get us Everitt I think that's a pretty good deal.

Agreed. This would wrap up a pretty reasonable trade week for us. Still got all of our guns, picked up some real pace and a pretty good swing man who can take a mark. And we still have some kids coming on ala Stevens, Macca, Armo, Stanley, Geary etc. Plus we may also land the irish sensation Big Tommy Walsh.

TassieJones · Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:34pm

joffaboy wrote:Speculation at BF

Collingwood - Ball
WB - #30 Dawes
Saints - Everitt.

The posters seemed pretty confident but it IS tradeweek

Surely we would get pick 30 in that deal?

Everitt has potential but really he is not enough for a player like Ball

Mr Magic · Post: # 845347Post **Mr Magic** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:40pm

TassieJones wrote:
joffaboy wrote:Speculation at BF

Collingwood - Ball
WB - #30 Dawes
Saints - Everitt.

The posters seemed pretty confident but it IS tradeweek
Surely we would get pick 30 in that deal?

Everitt has potential but really he is not enough for a player like Ball

What do we (the Club) think Ball is worth?
From the contract offer we gave him we obviously don't value him too highly.
25yo former captain, B&F winner and AA who has serious question marks over his fitness (injuries).

Surely if we rated him close to his best then he could command the 500-600k he thinks he should be on?
Collingwood by offering him 500k believe he is capable of getting back to his best.
We apparently don't.

Milton66 · Post: # 845352Post **Milton66** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:46pm

I am really confused here...

Ok, he has been a great servant andcourageous... an dI have bee a big fan.

But, as a mid, I reckon he's half the player that Lenny is.

Sure, he can get you a clearance, but what else does he contribute?

Let's be honest.

He can handball, but what else?

If we tale Luke Ballof today, and not what he was... how good is he?

It wasn't that long ago that we were burnt by a huge contract with Hamill.

Fact is that there are many players far ahead of Ball in our team who desrve to be rewarded ofr the contribution.

Players like Zac and Ray have contributed more this season, as has McQualter.

claystreet · Post: # 845370Post **claystreet** » Thu 08 Oct 2009 8:59pm

I dont think Ball is worth more than a late second round pick TBH with maybe a sweetner of a young player.

Balls hard at the pill but he aint no Lenny Hayes

Johnny Utah · Thu 08 Oct 2009 9:03pm

Ball will go into the national draft, before the PSD, if a deal isn't arranged.