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Dermott McNichol did not play under Sheldon. It was Gellie or Jewel and the reason why he didn't play more was becuase he was crap.Megamaguire wrote:Getting a game under new coach Watters will be more of a likely outcome than ever getting a real go under former coach Rossi. We all know Rossi hated giving extended time to young players.
The time for Walsh to stay @ St. Kilda is now. Nearly 2 decades ago another itishman Dermott McNichol got a gig for awhile under coach Kenny Sheldon. It didn't eventuate into a regular event but Tommy Walsh can go that one step better.
Stay @ St. Kilda Tommy!
GO SAINTS!
You can't expect Tommy to really care about the etiquette for rookies, he may only have 5 years out here, the swans might be offering double what we can pay plus promise him the chance to show what he's got in the big league...gringo wrote:I feel really pissed off with Tommy, rookies are different from afl players on full lists. they are given opportunity and development time. we have put heaps into him and if he walks he is officially a huge Irish twat. He is still a work in progress and shouldn't hold a team to ransom when he gets an offer.meher baba wrote:I bloody well hope the new bloke doesn't do anything of the sort!bigcarl wrote:Well I hope the new bloke tells him he's in the Round 1 team at full forward.
If that's going to be the sort of methodology he is going to apply to team selection, then I will definitely be the first to start a "sack the coach" thread!!
I hate the swans as well, it is probably the same scenario as Dempster and Schnides leaving after their successful era but we didn't come cherry picking.
I can't help thinking Ross, Roos and Longmire have been conspiring, as Ross despite what he showed rated him a potential 1st round pick if not an international.
If he took Zac with him then that may well be what happened.Zac has history with dicks.....gringo wrote:They have taken him for a medical so I assume they didn't just want to look at his dick.saintjake wrote:Sorry, but this is 10 pages long and I'm on my smart phone but has it been mentioned officially anywhere that the swans are after him?
What the hell has their headline got to do with their story?? Amateurs...SainterK wrote:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/s ... 6167495031
St Kilda's head of football, Chris Pelchen, said the Saints wanted to keep Gram, but suggested they might have their price.
"Because Jason is contracted our preference is for him to stay at the club. He certainly hasn't been put on the table ... but we're mindful of the fact that we've got restrictions and constraints," Pelchen said.
"There's certainly been interest shown. We've made it clear to clubs who have made inquiries that he is contracted. If they want to discuss Jason, OK, we'll listen to what they put forward."
Gram, who returns from Bali tomorrow, is believed to have attracted interest from North Melbourne, while Carlton has made preliminary inquiries.
Walsh, who is yet to make his AFL debut since crossing from Ireland in 2009, wants to join the Swans after they promised him greater opportunity.
But the Saints insist they won't let him leave, declaring Walsh a required player who they have tried to re-sign since the middle of the year.
Pelchen also dismissed speculation that Sean Dempster, who finished third in this year's best-and-fairest, had not been offered a new contract.
i am hoping that we can trade gram to north.SainterK wrote:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/s ... 6167495031
St Kilda's head of football, Chris Pelchen, said the Saints wanted to keep Gram, but suggested they might have their price.
"Because Jason is contracted our preference is for him to stay at the club. He certainly hasn't been put on the table ... but we're mindful of the fact that we've got restrictions and constraints," Pelchen said.
"There's certainly been interest shown. We've made it clear to clubs who have made inquiries that he is contracted. If they want to discuss Jason, OK, we'll listen to what they put forward."
Gram, who returns from Bali tomorrow, is believed to have attracted interest from North Melbourne, while Carlton has made preliminary inquiries.
Walsh, who is yet to make his AFL debut since crossing from Ireland in 2009, wants to join the Swans after they promised him greater opportunity.
But the Saints insist they won't let him leave, declaring Walsh a required player who they have tried to re-sign since the middle of the year.
Pelchen also dismissed speculation that Sean Dempster, who finished third in this year's best-and-fairest, had not been offered a new contract.
I would love it if we got that deal, if not I'd still probably be happy with pick 40.defacto wrote:i am hoping that we can trade gram to north.SainterK wrote:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/s ... 6167495031
St Kilda's head of football, Chris Pelchen, said the Saints wanted to keep Gram, but suggested they might have their price.
"Because Jason is contracted our preference is for him to stay at the club. He certainly hasn't been put on the table ... but we're mindful of the fact that we've got restrictions and constraints," Pelchen said.
"There's certainly been interest shown. We've made it clear to clubs who have made inquiries that he is contracted. If they want to discuss Jason, OK, we'll listen to what they put forward."
Gram, who returns from Bali tomorrow, is believed to have attracted interest from North Melbourne, while Carlton has made preliminary inquiries.
Walsh, who is yet to make his AFL debut since crossing from Ireland in 2009, wants to join the Swans after they promised him greater opportunity.
But the Saints insist they won't let him leave, declaring Walsh a required player who they have tried to re-sign since the middle of the year.
Pelchen also dismissed speculation that Sean Dempster, who finished third in this year's best-and-fairest, had not been offered a new contract.
SAINTS LOSE/NORTH GAIN: gram, 25
SAINTS GAIN/NORTH LOSE: 18, 40
Pick 40 for Jason GramArmoooo wrote:I would love it if we got that deal, if not I'd still probably be happy with pick 40.defacto wrote:i am hoping that we can trade gram to north.SainterK wrote:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/s ... 6167495031
St Kilda's head of football, Chris Pelchen, said the Saints wanted to keep Gram, but suggested they might have their price.
"Because Jason is contracted our preference is for him to stay at the club. He certainly hasn't been put on the table ... but we're mindful of the fact that we've got restrictions and constraints," Pelchen said.
"There's certainly been interest shown. We've made it clear to clubs who have made inquiries that he is contracted. If they want to discuss Jason, OK, we'll listen to what they put forward."
Gram, who returns from Bali tomorrow, is believed to have attracted interest from North Melbourne, while Carlton has made preliminary inquiries.
Walsh, who is yet to make his AFL debut since crossing from Ireland in 2009, wants to join the Swans after they promised him greater opportunity.
But the Saints insist they won't let him leave, declaring Walsh a required player who they have tried to re-sign since the middle of the year.
Pelchen also dismissed speculation that Sean Dempster, who finished third in this year's best-and-fairest, had not been offered a new contract.
SAINTS LOSE/NORTH GAIN: gram, 25
SAINTS GAIN/NORTH LOSE: 18, 40
the kicker is in the upgrade from 25 to 18. we'd get a great player for that pick.PJ wrote:Pick 40 for Jason GramArmoooo wrote:I would love it if we got that deal, if not I'd still probably be happy with pick 40.defacto wrote:i am hoping that we can trade gram to north.SainterK wrote:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/s ... 6167495031
St Kilda's head of football, Chris Pelchen, said the Saints wanted to keep Gram, but suggested they might have their price.
"Because Jason is contracted our preference is for him to stay at the club. He certainly hasn't been put on the table ... but we're mindful of the fact that we've got restrictions and constraints," Pelchen said.
"There's certainly been interest shown. We've made it clear to clubs who have made inquiries that he is contracted. If they want to discuss Jason, OK, we'll listen to what they put forward."
Gram, who returns from Bali tomorrow, is believed to have attracted interest from North Melbourne, while Carlton has made preliminary inquiries.
Walsh, who is yet to make his AFL debut since crossing from Ireland in 2009, wants to join the Swans after they promised him greater opportunity.
But the Saints insist they won't let him leave, declaring Walsh a required player who they have tried to re-sign since the middle of the year.
Pelchen also dismissed speculation that Sean Dempster, who finished third in this year's best-and-fairest, had not been offered a new contract.
SAINTS LOSE/NORTH GAIN: gram, 25
SAINTS GAIN/NORTH LOSE: 18, 40
No I get what you are saying defacto it was Armooooo's comment that he would be happy with pick 40 that stumped me. Yes definately be happy to gain pick 18.defacto wrote:the kicker is in the upgrade from 25 to 18. we'd get a great player for that pick.PJ wrote:Pick 40 for Jason GramArmoooo wrote:I would love it if we got that deal, if not I'd still probably be happy with pick 40.defacto wrote:i am hoping that we can trade gram to north.SainterK wrote:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/s ... 6167495031
St Kilda's head of football, Chris Pelchen, said the Saints wanted to keep Gram, but suggested they might have their price.
"Because Jason is contracted our preference is for him to stay at the club. He certainly hasn't been put on the table ... but we're mindful of the fact that we've got restrictions and constraints," Pelchen said.
"There's certainly been interest shown. We've made it clear to clubs who have made inquiries that he is contracted. If they want to discuss Jason, OK, we'll listen to what they put forward."
Gram, who returns from Bali tomorrow, is believed to have attracted interest from North Melbourne, while Carlton has made preliminary inquiries.
Walsh, who is yet to make his AFL debut since crossing from Ireland in 2009, wants to join the Swans after they promised him greater opportunity.
But the Saints insist they won't let him leave, declaring Walsh a required player who they have tried to re-sign since the middle of the year.
Pelchen also dismissed speculation that Sean Dempster, who finished third in this year's best-and-fairest, had not been offered a new contract.
SAINTS LOSE/NORTH GAIN: gram, 25
SAINTS GAIN/NORTH LOSE: 18, 40
we also have the players to cover gram and we need to trade him in whilst he still has currency.
Looks like I was wrong about when he played. Didn't think he played under Sheldon.SaintPav wrote:Dermott McNichol did not play under Sheldon. It was Gellie or Jewel and the reason why he didn't play more was becuase he was crap.Megamaguire wrote:Getting a game under new coach Watters will be more of a likely outcome than ever getting a real go under former coach Rossi. We all know Rossi hated giving extended time to young players.
The time for Walsh to stay @ St. Kilda is now. Nearly 2 decades ago another itishman Dermott McNichol got a gig for awhile under coach Kenny Sheldon. It didn't eventuate into a regular event but Tommy Walsh can go that one step better.
Stay @ St. Kilda Tommy!
GO SAINTS!
I understand your frustration in regards to Tommy doc but something about the hysteria surrounding this that grates on me. I don't want Tommy elevated financially for his gain against the betterment of our club and our current situation. Sure he's a KPP and could be really important but we wouldn't want to get to carried away with this.Dr Spaceman wrote:And not surprising he wouldn't sign. Thanks Ross; let's hope it's not too late.AnythingsPossibleSaints wrote:Very glad to hear, re. Tommy. Not at all strange that we've been trying to sign him up since mid-year but wouldn't play him in the seniors, though.
I am in complete agreement. He has been hyped beyond anything he is ever likely to achieve. Setanta is an example of a similar highly rated Irishman from another sport who after years of development is on the chopping block. To pay way over his value would be reckless, he might be the greatest player ever, but he may be Setanta how much is he worth? hope he stays and becomes something but not at any cost.PJ wrote:I understand your frustration in regards to Tommy doc but something about the hysteria surrounding this that grates on me. I don't want Tommy elevated financially for his gain against the betterment of our club and our current situation. Sure he's a KPP and could be really important but we wouldn't want to get to carried away with this.Dr Spaceman wrote:And not surprising he wouldn't sign. Thanks Ross; let's hope it's not too late.AnythingsPossibleSaints wrote:Very glad to hear, re. Tommy. Not at all strange that we've been trying to sign him up since mid-year but wouldn't play him in the seniors, though.
Hopefully most of this is media frenzy but when you think about it Tommy has no real aleagance to anyone.
defacto wrote:i am hoping that we can trade gram to north.SainterK wrote:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/s ... 6167495031
St Kilda's head of football, Chris Pelchen, said the Saints wanted to keep Gram, but suggested they might have their price.
"Because Jason is contracted our preference is for him to stay at the club. He certainly hasn't been put on the table ... but we're mindful of the fact that we've got restrictions and constraints," Pelchen said.
"There's certainly been interest shown. We've made it clear to clubs who have made inquiries that he is contracted. If they want to discuss Jason, OK, we'll listen to what they put forward."
Gram, who returns from Bali tomorrow, is believed to have attracted interest from North Melbourne, while Carlton has made preliminary inquiries.
Walsh, who is yet to make his AFL debut since crossing from Ireland in 2009, wants to join the Swans after they promised him greater opportunity.
But the Saints insist they won't let him leave, declaring Walsh a required player who they have tried to re-sign since the middle of the year.
Pelchen also dismissed speculation that Sean Dempster, who finished third in this year's best-and-fairest, had not been offered a new contract.
SAINTS LOSE/NORTH GAIN: gram, 25
SAINTS GAIN/NORTH LOSE: 18, 40
