Farewell Lonie
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
- mightysainters
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 1986
- Joined: Tue 16 Mar 2004 2:21pm
- Has thanked: 28 times
- Been thanked: 52 times
Re: Farewell Lonie
Correct title..
He's the kind of player fans say 'trade him' when no club would pick him up let alone give up something for.. can't kick over 30m..
He's the kind of player fans say 'trade him' when no club would pick him up let alone give up something for.. can't kick over 30m..
- 8856brother
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4374
- Joined: Wed 14 Sep 2011 2:58pm
- Location: Twin Peaks
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Been thanked: 1 time
Re: Farewell Lonie
Was o ly 20 and didn't make the distance.magnifisaint wrote:Disgraceful shot on goal from 30m out
He's like an under 12 playing with the under 16s.
_______________________________________________________________________
"Don't argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."
"Don't argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3638
- Joined: Wed 21 May 2008 8:51pm
- Location: Tassie
- Has thanked: 492 times
- Been thanked: 316 times
Re: Farewell Lonie
Davenport was 5 tones the player Lonie is or ever will be, we've invested enough time and money in this muppet and it's time to cut our losses.Waltzing St Kilda wrote:At best he's a Craig Devonport-type, only Devonport kicked goals.
Perhaps we can trade him to Carlton for a first round pick.
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 1265
- Joined: Sun 12 Sep 2010 1:17am
- Has thanked: 12 times
- Been thanked: 319 times
Re: Farewell Lonie
I think it's line ball with him and I think they gave him every opportunity to have a good look at him to see whether they will offer a new contract. My guy feel is he may get delisted and put on the rookie list as I think he dominates VFL but is not AFL level.
Wright and Minchington also in this category but they have another year to go.
Wright and Minchington also in this category but they have another year to go.
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 1304
- Joined: Thu 22 Jun 2006 4:03pm
- Location: StKilda East
- Has thanked: 50 times
- Been thanked: 233 times
- Contact:
Re: Farewell Lonie
I blame the selectors for repeatedly picking him when it was clear he is out of his depth at this level.
The same selectors dropped White after impressing in the limited time he was given, gave Marshall only one game despite a highly promising debut,
and took far too long to secure Sinclair's place in the team.
The same selectors dropped White after impressing in the limited time he was given, gave Marshall only one game despite a highly promising debut,
and took far too long to secure Sinclair's place in the team.
- mad saint guy
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 7088
- Joined: Tue 26 Jul 2005 9:44pm
- Location: Melbourne
- Has thanked: 52 times
- Been thanked: 367 times
Re: Farewell Lonie
He would be the least threatening forward in the AFL right now. He is tiny, slow, constantly fumbles, can't kick 40m and can't kick for goal. Gun VFL player though.
- bigred
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 11463
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 7:39am
- Has thanked: 25 times
- Been thanked: 609 times
Re: Farewell Lonie
He's had more opportunity than any other fringe player on the list. Good player at VFL level.
Just cannot cut it at senior AFL level.
Look at the turnover in the first quarter from yesterdays game. Roo had ten meters on his opponent, who Lonie promptly hit on the chest with a pinpoint pass.
If this guy hasn't played his last game for the club then we have a serious issue.
Just cannot cut it at senior AFL level.
Look at the turnover in the first quarter from yesterdays game. Roo had ten meters on his opponent, who Lonie promptly hit on the chest with a pinpoint pass.
If this guy hasn't played his last game for the club then we have a serious issue.
"Now the ball is loose, it gives St. Kilda a rough chance. Black. Good handpass. Voss. Schwarze now, the defender, can run and from a long way".....
- Junction Oval
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 2867
- Joined: Tue 30 Nov 2010 11:16am
- Been thanked: 19 times
Re: Farewell Lonie
I was very surprised at his selection for this week. White was the obvious choice to replace Gilbert - Gears injury proved that.
Was Lonie chosen as a last chance to prove himself at AFL level, after dominating in the VFL for the two previous weeks? He certainly didn't do his cause any justice with a couple of very bad mis-kicks (again).
Was Lonie chosen as a last chance to prove himself at AFL level, after dominating in the VFL for the two previous weeks? He certainly didn't do his cause any justice with a couple of very bad mis-kicks (again).
- MC Gusto
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6084
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 8:29am
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Been thanked: 372 times
Re: Farewell Lonie
to be fair it is not his fault he is picked week in week out but at the same time he is clearly not up to it at AFL levels.
Why teh **** white wasnt in the team i do not know. Wouldve prefered him in and perhaps Rice to get a taste over Lonie but it seems our selectors are on drugs
Why teh **** white wasnt in the team i do not know. Wouldve prefered him in and perhaps Rice to get a taste over Lonie but it seems our selectors are on drugs
#1 Ryder fan
- Joffa Burns
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 7081
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 5:48pm
- Has thanked: 1871 times
- Been thanked: 1570 times
Re: Farewell Lonie
I can see why the coach has persisted with Lonie.
Was BOG when dropped, there is plenty of effort and he generates multiple shots on goal.
The issue is a permanent forward who can't make the distance from 25nt out on a slight angle.
The fact a left footer chose to kick around the corner instead of a drop punt from that position shows how mentally broken he is when taking set shots.
I think he deserves another year as he is very young and can win the ball and generate scoring shots, but needs to fix his kicking over the off-season or it's time to go.
Was BOG when dropped, there is plenty of effort and he generates multiple shots on goal.
The issue is a permanent forward who can't make the distance from 25nt out on a slight angle.
The fact a left footer chose to kick around the corner instead of a drop punt from that position shows how mentally broken he is when taking set shots.
I think he deserves another year as he is very young and can win the ball and generate scoring shots, but needs to fix his kicking over the off-season or it's time to go.
Proudly assuming the title of forum Oracle and serving as the inaugural Saintsational ‘weak as piss brigade’ President.
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 2594
- Joined: Fri 20 Jan 2012 4:57pm
- Has thanked: 2043 times
- Been thanked: 1167 times
Re: Farewell Lonie
Our Match Committee are either drunk and/or on Meth. And have been all year. If I didn't know better, I'd say that side was picked to lose; not win. How can you lose a hard running left sided defender (i.e. Gilbert) and not replace like-for-like with White (albeit White can hit a target) and instead, play Lonie?Jacks Back wrote:He really shouldn't have been picked. we went in with one too may small forwards and didn't replace any height in the back line where White should have replaced Gilbert. Instead, Geary goes down and Mav has to try and play back as White is not playing. This is our match committee for you.
The sooner the dead wood like Lonie and Mav plus Wright, et al, get the boot the better.
When your basic skill levels are not up to standard, you can't double-down and then select your team poorly too.
Go you red, black & white warriors
Re: Farewell Lonie
Deserves another year if Minch got another contract. sure he did some really sh$t stuff this year but also did some good.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4243
- Joined: Thu 25 Mar 2004 2:47pm
- Location: incarnate
- Has thanked: 286 times
- Been thanked: 694 times
Re: Farewell Lonie
While I agree with the sentiment of the OP, the way he has been favoured all year he might just get a 3 year deal.
I reckon Richo suffers from too high a regard of the players on the list. A bit like Spud when he coached Tigers.
He needs some perspective. Lonie and Weller have to go....no matter how good they are as blokes.
I reckon Richo suffers from too high a regard of the players on the list. A bit like Spud when he coached Tigers.
He needs some perspective. Lonie and Weller have to go....no matter how good they are as blokes.
Nee!
- GregPackhamsHeadband
- Club Player
- Posts: 495
- Joined: Wed 02 Aug 2017 8:25pm
- Location: Goward's Gulch
Re: Farewell Lonie
I think you're onto something, fugazi in terms of AR's regard for his players. You need to be close, but not too close or attached. A slice of RL ruthlessness might just be what Richo needs.
I think you're pretty tough, don't I?
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3385
- Joined: Wed 12 Sep 2007 5:30pm
- Has thanked: 172 times
- Been thanked: 519 times
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 43
- Joined: Sun 16 Apr 2017 10:34pm
Re: Farewell Lonie
He's 21 years old and has had nearly 60 shots at goal in 39 AFL games.
Was he good on the weekend? Not at all.
Is he the utter spud that people on here think he is? Also no.
Is he likely to be Chad Wingard? Perhaps not, but how many players actually are.
If only it was as easy as people thought it was to improve the list. Just cut every player who isn't an elite player and magically replace them with guns. The salary cap and drafting means that this is impossible, doubly so when your club is on the lower rungs of crowd and membership numbers.
By all means question whether he will make it or not, but he has performed better than many on here are prepared to acknowledge.
Was he good on the weekend? Not at all.
Is he the utter spud that people on here think he is? Also no.
Is he likely to be Chad Wingard? Perhaps not, but how many players actually are.
If only it was as easy as people thought it was to improve the list. Just cut every player who isn't an elite player and magically replace them with guns. The salary cap and drafting means that this is impossible, doubly so when your club is on the lower rungs of crowd and membership numbers.
By all means question whether he will make it or not, but he has performed better than many on here are prepared to acknowledge.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6611
- Joined: Sat 11 Jun 2011 4:52pm
- Location: Here
- Has thanked: 1340 times
- Been thanked: 467 times
Re: Farewell Lonie
Nah, Too small and yet not fast. Can't kick over a jam tin. Definitely doesn't have the X factor. The sooner players like him and his ilk are gone the better for us. This is a cutthroat business and there is no need to run a child minding centre (although that may be better than the pokies).The Pinch Hitters wrote:He's 21 years old and has had nearly 60 shots at goal in 39 AFL games.
Was he good on the weekend? Not at all.
Is he the utter spud that people on here think he is? Also no.
Is he likely to be Chad Wingard? Perhaps not, but how many players actually are.
If only it was as easy as people thought it was to improve the list. Just cut every player who isn't an elite player and magically replace them with guns. The salary cap and drafting means that this is impossible, doubly so when your club is on the lower rungs of crowd and membership numbers.
By all means question whether he will make it or not, but he has performed better than many on here are prepared to acknowledge.
As ex-president Peter Summers said:
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”
St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”
St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!
- prwilkinson
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 1999
- Joined: Tue 21 Sep 2010 12:17pm
- Has thanked: 67 times
- Been thanked: 132 times
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3856
- Joined: Fri 16 Sep 2011 2:41pm
- Has thanked: 419 times
- Been thanked: 237 times
Re: Farewell Lonie
Good post. If we cut him I'll accept it, but he is far from the spud some make him out to be. Works hard. I'd be happy to see him after another pre-season: challenges for 2018 would be to avoid being ragdolled, and to vastly IMPROVE SET SHOT GOAL KICKING.The Pinch Hitters wrote:He's 21 years old and has had nearly 60 shots at goal in 39 AFL games.
Was he good on the weekend? Not at all.
Is he the utter spud that people on here think he is? Also no.
Is he likely to be Chad Wingard? Perhaps not, but how many players actually are.
If only it was as easy as people thought it was to improve the list. Just cut every player who isn't an elite player and magically replace them with guns. The salary cap and drafting means that this is impossible, doubly so when your club is on the lower rungs of crowd and membership numbers.
By all means question whether he will make it or not, but he has performed better than many on here are prepared to acknowledge.
Always loyal
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 1558
- Joined: Tue 06 Apr 2004 2:05pm
- Location: NE Victoria
- Has thanked: 19 times
- Been thanked: 283 times
Re: Farewell Lonie
I'd give him another season. If we had made a decision on Seb Ross after 3 seasons he would have been gone. Is so good at VFL level that it suggests he can come good.
summertime and the living is easy ........
- prwilkinson
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 1999
- Joined: Tue 21 Sep 2010 12:17pm
- Has thanked: 67 times
- Been thanked: 132 times
Re: Farewell Lonie
Gees he gets ragdolled and pushed out of contests at AFL level. Sometimes he might as well not even be there. Men against boys sort of stuff. He'll most likely get another year but VFL could be his ceiling when it comes to footy.SemperFidelis wrote:Good post. If we cut him I'll accept it, but he is far from the spud some make him out to be. Works hard. I'd be happy to see him after another pre-season: challenges for 2018 would be to avoid being ragdolled, and to vastly IMPROVE SET SHOT GOAL KICKING.The Pinch Hitters wrote:He's 21 years old and has had nearly 60 shots at goal in 39 AFL games.
Was he good on the weekend? Not at all.
Is he the utter spud that people on here think he is? Also no.
Is he likely to be Chad Wingard? Perhaps not, but how many players actually are.
If only it was as easy as people thought it was to improve the list. Just cut every player who isn't an elite player and magically replace them with guns. The salary cap and drafting means that this is impossible, doubly so when your club is on the lower rungs of crowd and membership numbers.
By all means question whether he will make it or not, but he has performed better than many on here are prepared to acknowledge.
- parkeysainter
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 2696
- Joined: Thu 20 Jul 2017 2:59am
- Location: Brighton Beach Mansion
- Has thanked: 84 times
- Been thanked: 177 times
Re: Farewell Lonie
Its all well and good to see Lonie, Wright and Minchington let go....
....but the Saints actually need to find a new small forward then that will make an impact.
....but the Saints actually need to find a new small forward then that will make an impact.
Try to be a rainbow in someone's cloud
In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death, taxes and the St Kilda FC
In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death, taxes and the St Kilda FC
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 632
- Joined: Mon 21 Aug 2017 1:23am
- Location: Doncaster, Victoria
- Has thanked: 77 times
- Been thanked: 33 times
Re: Farewell Lonie
I don't think they need another small forward.parkeysainter wrote:Its all well and good to see Lonie, Wright and Minchington let go....
....but the Saints actually need to find a new small forward then that will make an impact.
Need to fix up the way they send the ball into the F50 first,
work on that.
We could have Peter Daicos in there and he would only get 3 touches per game.
Sheesh
2020 was an aberration, when we travelled twice to Adelaide and won both, beat Tigers early, beat our bogey Swans. 2021 we've returned to our old ways. Damn
- parkeysainter
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 2696
- Joined: Thu 20 Jul 2017 2:59am
- Location: Brighton Beach Mansion
- Has thanked: 84 times
- Been thanked: 177 times
Re: Farewell Lonie
Can understand your thoughts but we have only Billings as a small fwd and Wellar as a med fwd. Gresh will become a midfielder/fwd. Not sure how Long will turn out yet as its only his 2nd season next year.MickThomas wrote:I don't think they need another small forward.parkeysainter wrote:Its all well and good to see Lonie, Wright and Minchington let go....
....but the Saints actually need to find a new small forward then that will make an impact.
Need to fix up the way they send the ball into the F50 first,
work on that.
We could have Peter Daicos in there and he would only get 3 touches per game.
Sheesh
We need a good "permanent" small/med fwd that can play there permanently - just besides the gun Billings.
Try to be a rainbow in someone's cloud
In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death, taxes and the St Kilda FC
In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death, taxes and the St Kilda FC