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Re: GWS sanctions

Post: # 1648325Post Jacks Back »

SuperDuper wrote:
SuperDuper wrote:
dragit wrote:
shrodes wrote:$100k fine and loss of 1000 draft points (equivalent pick ~15)

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-12-22/a ... field-saga
Hilarious…

BREAKING NEWS

AFL fine themselves $100,000

Right up there with finding Melbourne not guilty of tanking, but then fining them… then giving them the money to hire Roos.

yes.. who has any doubt that they will still end up with a top 10 draft prospect nexr year despite being sanctioned

they delayed this yeard santion because there were 2 academy top 15 prospects so they did not want the sanctions to actually deprive them

Next years crop clearly not looking as strong

and as you say,,, any fine on gws is hilarious.... AFL is 100% fining themselves
Reminds me of The Rutles (a parody of The Beatles) where, at the end, the band members all sue each other and one of them sues himself, accidentally.


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Re: GWS sanctions

Post: # 1648363Post SinCitySainter »

Didn't they already give away their first pick this year for Deledio?
So how do they give up the 1000 points or are the AFL allowing Richmond to pay the penalty in their stead.


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Re: GWS sanctions

Post: # 1648366Post Con Gorozidis »

SinCitySainter wrote:Didn't they already give away their first pick this year for Deledio?
So how do they give up the 1000 points or are the AFL allowing Richmond to pay the penalty in their stead.
GWS still have their 2017 first round pick.

They spent Geelong's 2017 first round pick on Deledio which they got from Carlton. Carlton got it from Geelong for Zac Tuohy.

(Geelong are 2-3 years away from a Wooden Spoon imo.)
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Re: GWS sanctions

Post: # 1648367Post dragit »

On reflection, I'm really worried if GWS will ever recover from this…
1000 points @ around pick 15, when they've only had 28 first rounders and 19 top ten picks in the last 6 drafts.

2011
1,2,3,4,5,7,9,10,11,13,14
2012
1,2,3,12,14,27
2013
1,2,14,29
2014
4,6,7,23,24
2015
7,13,16
2016
2,5,14,20


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Re: GWS sanctions

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We will probably be giving them more first rounders for Jelly or shiel


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ROLS-LEE wrote:We will probably be giving them more first rounders for Jelly or shiel
I wouldn't be at all surprised if GWS fall apart after winning a gifted flag. I reckon most of their current list will look for other clubs once they win one and they will will end up basically being a training ground for first round picks that eventually move on to other clubs.


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Re: GWS sanctions

Post: # 1648412Post st.byron »

dragit wrote:On reflection, I'm really worried if GWS will ever recover from this…
1000 points @ around pick 15, when they've only had 28 first rounders and 19 top ten picks in the last 6 drafts.

2011
1,2,3,4,5,7,9,10,11,13,14
2012
1,2,3,12,14,27
2013
1,2,14,29
2014
4,6,7,23,24
2015
7,13,16
2016
2,5,14,20
What a travesty. As Jacks Back has posted several times, it's just a business. Any semblance of even playing field is shot to pieces. If we win a flag in the next few years it will be an awesome achievement in the light of that.


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Re: GWS sanctions

Post: # 1648414Post Devilhead »

stkfc1 wrote:
ROLS-LEE wrote:We will probably be giving them more first rounders for Jelly or shiel
I wouldn't be at all surprised if GWS fall apart after winning a gifted flag. I reckon most of their current list will look for other clubs once they win one and they will will end up basically being a training ground for first round picks that eventually move on to other clubs.
They may not even win one - everything has to fall right to win a flag - if they have a few injuries / suspensions at the wrong end of the season then it could all fall apart - we know that all too well :evil:


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Re: GWS sanctions

Post: # 1648432Post SuperDuper »

dragit wrote:
shrodes wrote:$100k fine and loss of 1000 draft points (equivalent pick ~15)

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-12-22/a ... field-saga
Hilarious…

BREAKING NEWS

AFL fine themselves $100,000

Right up there with finding Melbourne not guilty of tanking, but then fining them… then giving them the money to hire Roos.
Also note that 1000 points is between picks 17 and 18 and even worse, GWS get 20℅ discount on their draftees who all come from their academiy hese days .. so the penalty is really 800 points or between picks 23 and 24.

So the AFL fined themselves and penalised GWS a second rounder


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Re: GWS sanctions

Post: # 1648433Post SuperDuper »

dragit wrote:
shrodes wrote:$100k fine and loss of 1000 draft points (equivalent pick ~15)

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-12-22/a ... field-saga
Hilarious…

BREAKING NEWS

AFL fine themselves $100,000

Right up there with finding Melbourne not guilty of tanking, but then fining them… then giving them the money to hire Roos.
Also note that 1000 points is between picks 17 and 18 and even worse, GWS get 20℅ discount on their draftees who all come from their academiy hese days .. so the penalty is really 800 points or between picks 23 and 24.

So the AFL fined themselves and penalised GWS a second rounder


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Re: GWS sanctions

Post: # 1648434Post SuperDuper »

dragit wrote:
shrodes wrote:$100k fine and loss of 1000 draft points (equivalent pick ~15)

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-12-22/a ... field-saga
Hilarious…

BREAKING NEWS

AFL fine themselves $100,000

Right up there with finding Melbourne not guilty of tanking, but then fining them… then giving them the money to hire Roos.
Also note that 1000 points is between picks 17 and 18, it is not 15 and even worse, GWS get 20℅ discount on their draftees who all come from their academiy these days .. so the penalty is really 800 points or between picks 23 and 24.

So the AFL fined themselves and penalised GWS a second rounder


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Re: GWS sanctions

Post: # 1648578Post borderbarry »

They have lost 1000 points. If they use 800 on an academy player, they should still be down 200. No big deal, but it is the first penalty GWS has received and tthey wont like it, but I do.


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Re: GWS sanctions

Post: # 1648592Post SuperDuper »

borderbarry wrote:They have lost 1000 points. If they use 800 on an academy player, they should still be down 200. No big deal, but it is the first penalty GWS has received and tthey wont like it, but I do.
Yes but the issue is whether or not they actually lose access to a highly rated youngster. They won't. That extra 200 points you refer to just affects their later picks not the ones at the pointy end

The 20℅ discount needs to be scrapped asap. The advantage of moving up the order is already huge. The added 20℅ discount is going way too far.

Infact it should incur a 20℅ penalty if the AFL were at all serious about an even playing field (lol). This would partly negate the huge benefit of being able to move up the order


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