A little perspective about Adam Schenider

[Harvey To Hayes]

Year - Goals.Behinds

2011- 30.11 (good year)

2012 - 8.6 (writing on the wall)
2013 - 4.4 (cooked)
2014 - 8.10 (cooked)
2015 - 2.5
His DE is now below average.

That is perspective.
His goal average has gone from 1.6 (2010) down to 0.5. An opportunist like him needs to score. The reason he now kicks more points is because he lost a yard or three of pace and is rushing his kicks. It is so obvious.

Seriously I lost my rag not because of today but because he has gone on two years too many - selfishly putting his bank account before the club. Should have retired with dignity. The club needs to show some balls here.
People defending him are living in the past. He is a liability when exposed in a one on one.

You don't think the club had any say in whether he played on or not?

Did anyone tell Sam Dunnell he could have just stayed on the list if he wanted to?

Good point but why is he still posting after the comments in the other thread again?

Because some of the mods have a life which includes watching the Saints. I have now read the other posts and given Con a temporary ban so the mods can discuss possible action.

Fair enough mate and I'm no touchy PC type but those comments were too much, thought it was strange you were conversing with him like it hadn't happened, no offence intended.

[The Fireman]

I think those that jumped straight into Schneids are probably feeling a bit embarrassed now.

I wasn't one of them, but why? Unless it got really personal...
He is a (supposed) leader, demands the ball in clutch positions and does what again?
He cost us today, disappointing.

Personally I don't want him in the team anymore, but I won't bag him in saying that.
He has been good for us, and around the club he is probably great.
He doesn't run hard enough defensively for me, given how young we are at the moment I can understand why they play him, I just wouldn't.

well we disagree..I would definitely play him, he is too good a player not to. Our coaching staff obviously agree with me.

[maverick]

I think those that jumped straight into Schneids are probably feeling a bit embarrassed now.

I wasn't one of them, but why? Unless it got really personal...
He is a (supposed) leader, demands the ball in clutch positions and does what again?
He cost us today, disappointing.

Personally I don't want him in the team anymore, but I won't bag him in saying that.
He has been good for us, and around the club he is probably great.
He doesn't run hard enough defensively for me, given how young we are at the moment I can understand why they play him, I just wouldn't.

well we disagree..I would definitely play him, he is too good a player not to. Our coaching staff obviously agree with me.

So does that make you right.
We are 1-4, going well then.

[dragit]

I think those that jumped straight into Schneids are probably feeling a bit embarrassed now.

I wasn't one of them, but why? Unless it got really personal...
He is a (supposed) leader, demands the ball in clutch positions and does what again?
He cost us today, disappointing.

Personally I don't want him in the team anymore, but I won't bag him in saying that.
He has been good for us, and around the club he is probably great.
He doesn't run hard enough defensively for me, given how young we are at the moment I can understand why they play him, I just wouldn't.

well we disagree..I would definitely play him, he is too good a player not to. Our coaching staff obviously agree with me.

So does that make you right.
We are 1-4, going well then.

Schneider is not the reason we are 1-4, surely?

[maverick]

I think those that jumped straight into Schneids are probably feeling a bit embarrassed now.

I wasn't one of them, but why? Unless it got really personal...
He is a (supposed) leader, demands the ball in clutch positions and does what again?
He cost us today, disappointing.

Personally I don't want him in the team anymore, but I won't bag him in saying that.
He has been good for us, and around the club he is probably great.
He doesn't run hard enough defensively for me, given how young we are at the moment I can understand why they play him, I just wouldn't.

well we disagree..I would definitely play him, he is too good a player not to. Our coaching staff obviously agree with me.

So does that make you right.
We are 1-4, going well then.

Schneider is not the reason we are 1-4, surely?

No that was a "coaching agreeing reference"….

[Bunk_Moreland]

I think those that jumped straight into Schneids are probably feeling a bit embarrassed now.

I wasn't one of them, but why? Unless it got really personal...
He is a (supposed) leader, demands the ball in clutch positions and does what again?
He cost us today, disappointing.

Personally I don't want him in the team anymore, but I won't bag him in saying that.
He has been good for us, and around the club he is probably great.
He doesn't run hard enough defensively for me, given how young we are at the moment I can understand why they play him, I just wouldn't.

well we disagree..I would definitely play him, he is too good a player not to. Our coaching staff obviously agree with me.

So does that make you right.
We are 1-4, going well then.

And thats all Schneiders fault is it?

What about Lonie n=missing from 30 out in the dying minutes?

Bruce missed a sitter of a set shot.

2.6 in the first quarter.

But 1-4 is one players fault.

Geez, heard it all now

[maverick]

I think those that jumped straight into Schneids are probably feeling a bit embarrassed now.

I wasn't one of them, but why? Unless it got really personal...
He is a (supposed) leader, demands the ball in clutch positions and does what again?
He cost us today, disappointing.

Personally I don't want him in the team anymore, but I won't bag him in saying that.
He has been good for us, and around the club he is probably great.
He doesn't run hard enough defensively for me, given how young we are at the moment I can understand why they play him, I just wouldn't.

well we disagree..I would definitely play him, he is too good a player not to. Our coaching staff obviously agree with me.

So does that make you right.
We are 1-4, going well then.

And thats all Schneiders fault is it?

What about Lonie n=missing from 30 out in the dying minutes?

Bruce missed a sitter of a set shot.

2.6 in the first quarter.

But 1-4 is one players fault.

Geez, heard it all now

If only you could read….
coaching staff reference…
Now go back to bagging others

[gringo]

I have heard he lives in a coffin and eats baby kittens. Notice the Germanic name and the tenuous link to the nazis too. It's a disgrace that he continues to consume resources rather than leave them for younger people who think American Pie is a classic old school movie. Some people have no respect thinking they should live when other people need their air and beer. Fancy being so selfish as to make himself play for money. He is thinking of his wallet, freakin' disgusting and that. Mate if I was Tony Abbott I would throw him at a boat person.

[skeptic]

So do ppl think he is playing to a standard expected of a player of his experience and talent?

[whiskers3614]

I have heard he lives in a coffin and eats baby kittens. Notice thena Germanic me and the tenuous link to the nazis too. It's a disgrace that he continues to consume resources rather than leave them for younger people who think American Pie is a classic old school movie. Some people have no respect thinking they should live when other people need their air and beer. Fancy being so selfish as to make himself play for money. He is thinking of his wallet, freakin' disgusting and that. Mate if I was Tony Abbott I would throw him at a boat person.

Seems we struggle with Germanic names on here Riewoldt has been with us 15years and SCHNEIDER nearly 9 but people still have trouble spelling their surnames, thank heavens we didn't get KOlodjashnij!!

[Harvey To Hayes]

So do ppl think he is playing to a standard expected of a player of his experience and talent?

If those things are relevant then surely his salary is a consideration? He was rookied so I assume he's not on big coin? He did some pretty good things tonight...

[bigred]

Silly thread.

Few blokes here really letting the dick head out tonight.

[SydneySainter]

Schneider had two chances to ice the game, but he didn't cost us the game either.

[Bunk_Moreland]

So do ppl think he is playing to a standard expected of a player of his experience and talent?

If those things are relevant then surely his salary is a consideration? He was rookied so I assume he's not on big coin? He did some pretty good things tonight...

Agreed, apart from the two misses at the end that so called Saints supporters have been personally abusing him for, he had a good game.

But hey dont get in the way of the usual armchair lynch mob who haven't had a real scapegoat since raph.

The singling out of Schneider has been not just poor, but inexcusable for supposed supporters.

This place has disgraced itself today, topped by Con with andrewg in support. Should not call themselves supporters of our club.

And people wonder why this place is going downhill

[gringo]

I have heard he lives in a coffin and eats baby kittens. Notice thena Germanic me and the tenuous link to the nazis too. It's a disgrace that he continues to consume resources rather than leave them for younger people who think American Pie is a classic old school movie. Some people have no respect thinking they should live when other people need their air and beer. Fancy being so selfish as to make himself play for money. He is thinking of his wallet, freakin' disgusting and that. Mate if I was Tony Abbott I would throw him at a boat person.

Seems we struggle with Germanic names on here Riewoldt has been with us 15years and SCHNEIDER nearly 9 but people still have trouble spelling their surnames, thank heavens we didn't get KOlodjashnij!!

At least we say them right....I think Stewie Leowe should be something like Lurver, reevolt and at least Schneiders name sounds the same after 6 pots or sober.

[Rutts]

Cost us the 2009 GF
Cost us today
Cant kick under pressure
Prefer others

[Enrico_Misso]

His diabolical miss in the GF still haunts me.
It was the worst miss for the day.

His two shockers today shows he still can't be relied on.
Get rid of him and instead play a kid with a future.
Schneider has no future.

[whiskers3614]

Cost us the 2009 GF
Cost us today
Cant kick under pressure
Prefer others

One of the reasons we didn't make GF 2005 too!
Too late to execute him?

[skeptic]

Cost us the 2009 GF
Cost us today
Cant kick under pressure
Prefer others

One of the reasons we didn't make GF 2005 too!
Too late to execute him?

Can't help but laugh at that, when it rains it pours

[realdeal]

He's in there to finish off plays and add class and experience. He had the chance to basically win the game for us twice! Neither of them were even close.. His job is to finish it off and show the youngsters how it's done. He didn't.

[saintspremiers]

His diabolical miss in the GF still haunts me.
It was the worst miss for the day.

His two shockers today shows he still can't be relied on.
Get rid of him and instead play a kid with a future.
Schneider has no future.

But the misses today may have cost us the game, but does it really matter?

We know our best is fairly decent.

We need some experience in the side to help the kids develop.

[asiu]

I have heard he lives in a coffin and eats baby kittens. Notice the Germanic name and the tenuous link to the nazis too. It's a disgrace that he continues to consume resources rather than leave them for younger people who think American Pie is a classic old school movie. Some people have no respect thinking they should live when other people need their air and beer. Fancy being so selfish as to make himself play for money. He is thinking of his wallet, freakin' disgusting and that. Mate if I was Tony Abbott I would throw him at a boat person.

but he'd miss !!!

though , would that be tony or adams fault ?

[Scollop]

His diabolical miss in the GF still haunts me.
It was the worst miss for the day.

His two shockers today shows he still can't be relied on.
Get rid of him and instead play a kid with a future.
Schneider has no future.

But the misses today may have cost us the game, but does it really matter?

We know our best is fairly decent.

We need some experience in the side to help the kids develop.

I thought Membrey worked hard to lead and take the grab with a few minutes to go. He needed to finish off his limited oportunities with a shot on goal. Have confidence in your ability to kick a goal from 35-40 out when its a slight angle. That is how your game will develop.

In a way it is a good lesson for Membrey and other young players playing in the forward line. Take on the responsibility and kick the goal yourself - don't wait for someone else to get the job done.

[Scollop]

I think those that jumped straight into Schneids are probably feeling a bit embarrassed now.

I wasn't one of them, but why? Unless it got really personal...
He is a (supposed) leader, demands the ball in clutch positions and does what again?
He cost us today, disappointing.

Personally I don't want him in the team anymore, but I won't bag him in saying that.
He has been good for us, and around the club he is probably great.
He doesn't run hard enough defensively for me, given how young we are at the moment I can understand why they play him, I just wouldn't.

*** Sorry just read the Schneider thread (at least a couple of posts anyway) poor form, I agree, no need to get personal whatever you think of him ***

+1. Agree with all of that

[plugger66]

Missed a sitter that cost us the game so people get upset. Fair enough but some of the crap written tonight is embarrassing. Those who wrote that stuff should hang their head in shame. Anyway probably still keeps his spot so man up and hope he is BOG next week instead of a few here trying to score points even if it means bagging one of ours. Disgusted.