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Re: Positives

Post: # 1471403Post ace »

plugger66 wrote:
whiskers3614 wrote:Only 9 more to go!

9 what?
I make it 10 more
Losses this year and we win our rightful and traditional woodwork again.

And the No1 draft pick.
Now don't go and lose it by exceeding the salary cap.
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ace wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
whiskers3614 wrote:Only 9 more to go!

9 what?
I make it 10 more
Losses this year and we win our rightful and traditional woodwork again.

And the No1 draft pick.
Now don't and lose it by exceeding the salary cap.
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Sorry,
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Re: Positives

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plugger66 wrote:
whiskers3614 wrote:Games

Sadly its 10 plus our finals.
What!
We don't have to play in finals to win the wooden trophy do we?


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stinger wrote:how many more games like that willit take before posters start turning on the pelican and the coach....? :cry:
I think the coach and pelican would not be happy with the way we are playing

But they would be happy with where we sit on the ladder .
Pelican said he wanted 3 top 20 draft picks in last years draft and this years draft .


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Re: Positives

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BigMart wrote:What BFUSA?

Are we talking 7+ years?

That is an eon in AFL terms.... 97-2004... We were Runners up, last, second last, third... Over such a period.

I think any view longer than 4 years from being competitive is a concern

Long term views should always be considered
Gees I can't guarantee that I will be still here in 7+.
I would like to see another flag before I move on.
I was only 14 last time.


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Weller and Ross massive positives. Surely TC comes in for CJ... the bloke doesnt do enough to keep Curren out of the team.

Other than those two, and maybe Webster and Bruce, its hard to see many positives.


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Ross was impressive today. Nice to see him rack up possessions and get some outside run into his game.


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saintsRrising wrote:
BackFromUSA wrote: Uncompromised draft from here on in.

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How can you say that when there are still extra picks from previous years? ie Suns get a an extra pick this year based on where the Cats finish, as they get the first pick after them, and so hence an extra pick before our second pick.
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gws also has an extra pick...end of round 1 i think....


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Does anyone else believe Richo is having trouble getting the side excited about playing footy. Perhaps he is too dour as his answer to everything is "hard work & crack in"?

Perhaps the playing group are sick of being told what they are doing wrong rather creating belief and energy through positivity relaesing the pressure valve!

Perhaps the playing group believe they are also playing for early draft selections?


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WinnersOnly wrote:Does anyone else believe Richo is having trouble getting the side excited about playing footy. Perhaps he is too dour as his answer to everything is "hard work & crack in"?

Perhaps the playing group are sick of being told what they are doing wrong rather creating belief and energy through positivity relaesing the pressure valve!

Perhaps the playing group believe they are also playing for early draft selections?

Perhaps we arent good enough. Actually not perhaps.


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Probably a minor positive but today we saw a mediocre stand alone VFL team all we need now is a AFL team.
Maybe the AFL will introduce a relegation system and save us trying to find the AFL team.
Most unskilled side I have seen in almost 50 years as a Saints supporter.


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BadRossco wrote:Probably a minor positive but today we saw a mediocre stand alone VFL team all we need now is a AFL team.
Maybe the AFL will introduce a relegation system and save us trying to find the AFL team.
Most unskilled side I have seen in almost 50 years as a Saints supporter.

Didnt watch in the 80's?


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[quote="cannavaro17"]Ross- thought his clearance work was good. 28 touches...wasnt everyone saying he was done 4 weeks ago like lee this week?
Longer-thought he attacked the ball well and took some good marks around the ground...hes a fighter.
Murdoch- solid for game number 10 or so
Armitage- showed why we need him...attacks the ball like a warrior. We cant trade him as we are thin on midfielders like him[/quote]
All stood out in a poor team but would any of them get a start in any other current team


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I'd still rather be us than Essendon.


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BadRossco wrote:Probably a minor positive but today we saw a mediocre stand alone VFL team all we need now is a AFL team.
Maybe the AFL will introduce a relegation system and save us trying to find the AFL team.
Most unskilled side I have seen in almost 50 years as a Saints supporter.
+1...and i thought the hawthorn game was as bad as it could get..........wrong wrong wrong..... :cry: :cry: :cry:


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BadRossco wrote:
cannavaro17 wrote:Ross- thought his clearance work was good. 28 touches...wasnt everyone saying he was done 4 weeks ago like lee this week?
Longer-thought he attacked the ball well and took some good marks around the ground...hes a fighter.
Murdoch- solid for game number 10 or so
Armitage- showed why we need him...attacks the ball like a warrior. We cant trade him as we are thin on midfielders like him
All stood out in a poor team but would any of them get a start in any other current team

yep ...in essendon's team next year..... :wink: :wink: :wink:


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Post: # 1471561Post Saint wagga »

Positives this year are the number of times we have had young, sometimes very young players in the 'best' for St Kilda...Webster, newnes, shenton, dunstan, billings, hickey, Saunders, Wright, curren and now add Ross!! These are great signs! Hardly any youngsters were in the 'best' last year...yes the consistency is not there yet...but over time it will be, and our performances will become consistently better...of course talent will help, but I think our younger players are improving, now we just need a few more in each game to click to be more competitive...always going to be tough stretch of games, I think we'll be more competitive with lower ranked teams and on smaller grounds in the back half of the year...really hope tommy Lee is given more chances


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BringBackMadDog wrote:Longer: 3 disposal, 2 marks. Not nearly enough for mine.
From what I saw at sandy yesterday I would bring both pierce and Stanley in for Lee and longer
No, not Stanley! He has had his go. Definitely not. He won't make it.

Pierce; yep. Give him a go.


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Post: # 1471577Post spert »

Sorry no positives today- when a team is getting regularly flogged, it serves no purpose..young players will only get used to being losers, and some of our older guys just put up the white flag too early. AR needs to do some soul-searching about how he motivates a team and how he sets up defensive structures, as right now he seems out of his depth as a senior coach. I fully understand the problem with inexperienced young players, but it is vital to make a good contest both in an individual sense and as a team, even in a loss to a top team,,but again the team and too many individuals folded today.


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St Ick wrote:Weller and Ross massive positives. Surely TC comes in for CJ... the bloke doesnt do enough to keep Curren out of the team.

Other than those two, and maybe Webster and Bruce, its hard to see many positives.

seb will be a player....beautiful kick....quick hands and isn't as slow as some on here would have you believe......


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Post: # 1471610Post andrewg »

The biggest positive for me is I don't support Essendon......


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Post: # 1471620Post perfectionist »

Positive? - We can't go to 19th!

Alas, we need at least three more years of this. But, that's the only way to hopefully get back. Plus sacking our idiot list manager. I really don't know what has to happen to prove his "instincts" are hopeless. He has dined out on his "luck" at Hawthorn for far too long.


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perfectionist wrote:Positive? - We can't go to 19th!

Alas, we need at least three more years of this. But, that's the only way to hopefully get back. Plus sacking our idiot list manager. I really don't know what has to happen to prove his "instincts" are hopeless. He has dined out on his "luck" at Hawthorn for far too long.

you and i might actually agree on something for a change.... 8-)


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perfectionist wrote:Plus sacking our idiot list manager. I really don't know what has to happen to prove his "instincts" are hopeless. He has dined out on his "luck" at Hawthorn for far too long.
I thought he was going OK. Who has he brought into the club?

2011:

Newnes, Ross, Webster, Shenton - showing something
Milera - still has a chance
Saad - unfortunate but might just get back on the list
Maister - briefly useful
Dunell - showed something but probably not going to make it
Markworth, Minchington - no idea
Lever, Staley - gone

2012:

Hickey - going well until injured
Saunders, Wright, Murdoch - showing something
Lee - jury still a long way out
Roberton - not sure what's going on with him but has shown something
Pierce - people seem to like him
White - maybe
Dennis-Lane - failing

2013:

Delaney - doing well at FB
Billings, Dunstan, Acres - lots of potential there
Bruce - looks like a player
Templeton, Weller - definite possibilities
Longer - showing something though a long way to go
Savage - failing


More hits than misses there, surely? I suppose he's also let some go. Goddard, Dal, McEvoy, Dawson. Walsh. Probably some others I've forgotten.

Has he really been that bad so far?


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bergholt wrote:
perfectionist wrote:Plus sacking our idiot list manager. I really don't know what has to happen to prove his "instincts" are hopeless. He has dined out on his "luck" at Hawthorn for far too long.
I thought he was going OK. Who has he brought into the club?

2011:

Newnes, Ross, Webster, Shenton - showing something
Milera - still has a chance
Saad - unfortunate but might just get back on the list
Maister - briefly useful
Dunell - showed something but probably not going to make it
Markworth, Minchington - no idea
Lever, Staley - gone

2012:

Hickey - going well until injured
Saunders, Wright, Murdoch - showing something
Lee - jury still a long way out
Roberton - not sure what's going on with him but has shown something
Pierce - people seem to like him
White - maybe
Dennis-Lane - failing

2013:

Delaney - doing well at FB
Billings, Dunstan, Acres - lots of potential there
Bruce - looks like a player
Templeton, Weller - definite possibilities
Longer - showing something though a long way to go
Savage - failing


More hits than misses there, surely? I suppose he's also let some go. Goddard, Dal, McEvoy, Dawson. Walsh. Probably some others I've forgotten.

Has he really been that bad so far?
That's a bit unfair -using reason to stop people finding a new scape goat.


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