Rumour Malthouse to sign with Saints on Wednesday (Ch 7)

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
gringo
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 12421
Joined: Tue 24 Mar 2009 11:05pm
Location: St Kilda
Has thanked: 296 times
Been thanked: 55 times

Post: # 1154234Post gringo »

Stillwaiting wrote:
Dan Warna wrote:and we always loved MM, when he cries its because he has passion, and his style has always been misunderstood right? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
agree dan, very misunderstood, these ppl that call him Mick shithouse, oops that was me :shock:
I have a fear that at a club with no support network and doping program, he may just be a Wizard of Oz. All facade built on the highly paid support staff. Still if he gets Buttifant to come down and dope our players might be good, Rhys stanley with arms the size of Stewie Loewes calves sounds alright.


User avatar
Dan Warna
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 12846
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 12:56am
Location: melbourne

Post: # 1154235Post Dan Warna »

took MM 10 years for collingwoods premiership.

I"m willing to wait.

people are expecting him to wave his wand.

there were a few bottom out years as well.

Do you have the patience?

01/02 s*** 07/08 emerging from the mire.
Last edited by Dan Warna on Sun 02 Oct 2011 9:54am, edited 1 time in total.


Bewaire krime, da krimson bolt is comeing to yure nayborhood to smach krime

SHUT UP KRIME!
User avatar
bobmurray
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7934
Joined: Mon 03 Oct 2005 11:08pm
Location: In the stand at RSEA Park.
Has thanked: 548 times
Been thanked: 252 times

Post: # 1154236Post bobmurray »

It won't happen


How many defenders will The Saints pick in the 2024 draft ? :lol:
plugger66
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 50626
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007 8:15pm
Location: oakleigh

Post: # 1154237Post plugger66 »

gringo wrote:
Stillwaiting wrote:
Dan Warna wrote:and we always loved MM, when he cries its because he has passion, and his style has always been misunderstood right? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
agree dan, very misunderstood, these ppl that call him Mick shithouse, oops that was me :shock:
I have a fear that at a club with no support network and doping program, he may just be a Wizard of Oz. All facade built on the highly paid support staff. Still if he gets Buttifant to come down and dope our players might be good, Rhys stanley with arms the size of Stewie Loewes calves sounds alright.
I dont thinke the pies players have been doped but I reckon someone has.


User avatar
Eastern
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 14357
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 1:46pm
Location: 3132
Been thanked: 1 time

Post: # 1154238Post Eastern »

bigcarl wrote:What about the "process", interviews etc?
Exactly. We are NOT Essendon !!


NEW scarf signature (hopefully with correct spelling) will be here as soon as it arrives !!

Image
User avatar
cowboy18
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5795
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 1:05pm
Location: in my duffle coat
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 5 times

Post: # 1154244Post cowboy18 »

Liam_G wrote:
fingers wrote:
Dr Spaceman wrote:If all the rumours are true, well have about 5 joint senior coaches.

Radical 8-)
Like co-captains - maybe we are going with co-coaches.
Maybe a coach rotation policy instead?
One for the rules committee perhaps? I like the idea of having one coach sit outside the box, gagged and wearing a green fluoro bib, until he comes into the game with new ideas around 3/4 time, when one of the older or more tired coaches comes out of the box.


User avatar
meher baba
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7223
Joined: Mon 14 Aug 2006 6:49am
Location: Tasmania
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 516 times

Post: # 1154245Post meher baba »

Dan Warna wrote:took MM 10 years for collingwoods premiership.

I"m willing to wait.

people are expecting him to wave his wand.

there were a few bottom out years as well.

Do you have the patience?

01/02 s*** 07/08 emerging from the mire.
We might be in the "mire" for another 10 years or more whoever we choose as our next coach. Lots of factors will contribute to how we go in the next few years: the role of the coach will be only a part of that story.

Malthouse has shown he can coach successfully at AFL level and - even though his side didn't win yesterday - I can't see any clear signs that he has lost this ability: quite the opposite.

That makes him a credible choice for the role: more so than the untried like Watters, Tudor, Hinkley, etc.
Last edited by meher baba on Sun 02 Oct 2011 10:17am, edited 1 time in total.


"It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into."
- Jonathan Swift
User avatar
Dr Spaceman
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 14102
Joined: Thu 24 Sep 2009 11:07pm
Location: Newtown Institute of Saintology
Has thanked: 104 times
Been thanked: 62 times

Post: # 1154246Post Dr Spaceman »

meher baba wrote:
Dr Spaceman wrote:And clearly the 3 time premiership coach, the best in the business, will take on the job at $300,000 p.a. :P

Can't see it happening.
Sorry, I've obviously missed something somewhere along the way. Why would we only be paying him $300k per annum?
I made it up.

But the point is, everything suggests we're not looking to appoint a coach who would command the highest salary in the AFL.

And don't forget his contract with Collingwood for 2012. Eddie's not going to just tear that up some expect to add a few hundred thousand to the overall cost of getting Mick.

Therefore, I can't see it happening.


User avatar
Dr Spaceman
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 14102
Joined: Thu 24 Sep 2009 11:07pm
Location: Newtown Institute of Saintology
Has thanked: 104 times
Been thanked: 62 times

Post: # 1154248Post Dr Spaceman »

Re the Milne thing. Malthouse tried to explain that away as passion in the heat of the battle.

So I suppose that if he coaches us next year, and we play the Pies with Beams, Didak and Shaw in their side, he'll have a chance to prove they just weren't words. :wink:


User avatar
dragit
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 13047
Joined: Tue 29 Jun 2010 11:56am
Has thanked: 605 times
Been thanked: 315 times

Post: # 1154250Post dragit »

bobmurray wrote:It won't happen
I'm with Bob, just really can't see it happening.

Plus I do think he's been blessed with amazing resources for a long time which make it hard access his actual coaching...

In the end they lost another flag yesterday after only losing 2 games for the year, that equals failure as far as I am concerned...


User avatar
meher baba
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7223
Joined: Mon 14 Aug 2006 6:49am
Location: Tasmania
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 516 times

Post: # 1154253Post meher baba »

Dr Spaceman wrote:Re the Milne thing. Malthouse tried to explain that away as passion in the heat of the battle.
Yes, but that argument was made totally unconvincing by him then confessing that he had been in communication with the girl and the centre of the M&M scandal.

But, if he comes to the club, he'll surely find a way of kissing and making up with Milne. Perhaps he can get advice from Abbott and Oakeshott.


"It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into."
- Jonathan Swift
Stephen Theodore
SS Hall of Fame
Posts: 2154
Joined: Mon 06 Aug 2007 1:53pm
Location: SE Queensland
Has thanked: 30 times
Been thanked: 16 times

Post: # 1154255Post Stephen Theodore »

He may have had structures, assistants, resources, etc, but the bloke has succeeded in managing and coaching footballers, and I would be esctatic if he was appointed our Coach.

As for the Milne incident, pfff, there'd be a shake of hands and forgotten. Chri*t, there not a bunch of nitpicking school girls.


User avatar
meher baba
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7223
Joined: Mon 14 Aug 2006 6:49am
Location: Tasmania
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 516 times

Post: # 1154258Post meher baba »

Dr Spaceman wrote:
meher baba wrote:
Dr Spaceman wrote:And clearly the 3 time premiership coach, the best in the business, will take on the job at $300,000 p.a. :P

Can't see it happening.
Sorry, I've obviously missed something somewhere along the way. Why would we only be paying him $300k per annum?
I made it up.

But the point is, everything suggests we're not looking to appoint a coach who would command the highest salary in the AFL.

And don't forget his contract with Collingwood for 2012. Eddie's not going to just tear that up some expect to add a few hundred thousand to the overall cost of getting Mick.

Therefore, I can't see it happening.
I think we'd be able to find the $$$ we need. If he really wants to come to the club, I reckon Mick might be prepared to settle for a little less than top dollar (as far as I know he hasn't had the same problems as Ross with "mining investments" and is therefore presumably loaded).

I doubt we'll ever hear anything again about Eddie's stupid contract. Rumour has it that the AFL admin have taken a very dim view of it (think about the precedent it sets with free agency coming up) and would exact some sort of retribution if the Pies try to enforce it.


"It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into."
- Jonathan Swift
User avatar
Garibaldi
Club Player
Posts: 168
Joined: Fri 17 Sep 2004 9:29pm
Location: Sydney

Post: # 1154259Post Garibaldi »

The guy still has a hard on over being set adrift from StK all those years ago. He doesn't like us.


boo effin hoo
PJ
SS Life Member
Posts: 2974
Joined: Sun 14 Dec 2008 10:31am
Location: Adelaide

Post: # 1154260Post PJ »

Thought he was quoted yesterday as saying he wont coach.


I've never seen a bad St.Kilda player - that's just how they are.
User avatar
Bowey Boy
Club Player
Posts: 1155
Joined: Mon 22 Aug 2005 7:15pm
Location: Animal Enclosure
Has thanked: 184 times
Been thanked: 93 times

Post: # 1154261Post Bowey Boy »

PJ wrote:Thought he was quoted yesterday as saying he wont coach.
He has not said specifically that he will not coach St Kilda...so he must be coming !!


"I think, 'You kick a footy mate, you kick a footy. It's not like you've got a cure for cancer. You kick a footy, stop thinking you are so special'." - Samantha Black
Moods
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4947
Joined: Fri 05 Jun 2009 3:05pm
Has thanked: 343 times
Been thanked: 496 times

Post: # 1154262Post Moods »

fingers wrote:If he joins us ' "he has always been a master coach"

if he doesn't "he is a liar"
:lol: Exactly


User avatar
meher baba
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7223
Joined: Mon 14 Aug 2006 6:49am
Location: Tasmania
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 516 times

Post: # 1154263Post meher baba »

PJ wrote:Thought he was quoted yesterday as saying he wont coach.
I can't find anything to that effect on the web.


"It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into."
- Jonathan Swift
PJ
SS Life Member
Posts: 2974
Joined: Sun 14 Dec 2008 10:31am
Location: Adelaide

Post: # 1154266Post PJ »

meher baba wrote:
PJ wrote:Thought he was quoted yesterday as saying he wont coach.
I can't find anything to that effect on the web.
in the age


I've never seen a bad St.Kilda player - that's just how they are.
3rd generation saint
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4661
Joined: Thu 28 Dec 2006 8:34am
Location: Jurassic Park

Post: # 1154268Post 3rd generation saint »

As much as I would like to see it, I'll believe it when and if it actually happens.
Though what might be smart is for a short term coaching job for Malthouse say 2-3 years, with a understudy like Harv's or somebody else.
Our core group of players have 1 last shot at it in my opinion, and Malthouse would be the best option to achieve it.
Of course the PR benefits for the club would be huge, players, sponsors etc would soon follow.


Except for the sanity nothing much has been lost.
User avatar
meher baba
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7223
Joined: Mon 14 Aug 2006 6:49am
Location: Tasmania
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 516 times

Post: # 1154274Post meher baba »

PJ wrote:
meher baba wrote:
PJ wrote:Thought he was quoted yesterday as saying he wont coach.
I can't find anything to that effect on the web.
in the age
If you mean where he said he "thought" he would never coach again, but he still sometimes felt an urge in his gut to keep going, I'm afraid that's not 100% convincing. Weasel words.

There was nothing in that article that would be inconsistent with a later statement along the lines of "I thought that once the Pies put me on the scrapheap I thought nobody else would want me but then I was delighted to find that the Saints were willing to give me a go".


"It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into."
- Jonathan Swift
User avatar
meher baba
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7223
Joined: Mon 14 Aug 2006 6:49am
Location: Tasmania
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 516 times

Post: # 1154276Post meher baba »

PS. You can tell it's weasel words when you compare what was said to what might have been said, eg: "I'm retiring as a coach and definitely won't be coming back at the Pies or any other AFL club". Simple as that.


"It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into."
- Jonathan Swift
gringo
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 12421
Joined: Tue 24 Mar 2009 11:05pm
Location: St Kilda
Has thanked: 296 times
Been thanked: 55 times

Post: # 1154280Post gringo »

meher baba wrote:
Dr Spaceman wrote:
meher baba wrote:
Dr Spaceman wrote:And clearly the 3 time premiership coach, the best in the business, will take on the job at $300,000 p.a. :P

Can't see it happening.
Sorry, I've obviously missed something somewhere along the way. Why would we only be paying him $300k per annum?
I made it up.

But the point is, everything suggests we're not looking to appoint a coach who would command the highest salary in the AFL.

And don't forget his contract with Collingwood for 2012. Eddie's not going to just tear that up some expect to add a few hundred thousand to the overall cost of getting Mick.

Therefore, I can't see it happening.
I think we'd be able to find the $$$ we need. If he really wants to come to the club, I reckon Mick might be prepared to settle for a little less than top dollar (as far as I know he hasn't had the same problems as Ross with "mining investments" and is therefore presumably loaded).

I doubt we'll ever hear anything again about Eddie's stupid contract. Rumour has it that the AFL admin have taken a very dim view of it (think about the precedent it sets with free agency coming up) and would exact some sort of retribution if the Pies try to enforce it.

As I have said before who would have him but us? He would have to oust someone currently contracted and risk a Lyon/ Harvey backlash. We are the only club that is openly seeking a coach, the only club that may be capable in the next couple of years of seeing him successful one more time. If he wants to coach again it has to be next year or he is gone for ever, I don't want him but he would pretty much have to take what he could get. $300 000 looks alright compared to special comments at channel 7.


Jacks Back
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6610
Joined: Sat 11 Jun 2011 4:52pm
Location: Here
Has thanked: 1338 times
Been thanked: 467 times

Post: # 1154281Post Jacks Back »

This smacks of the ill-conceived Blight saga where he basically came for the money.

MM will be coming only to piss the filth off because they wanted to get rid of him.

He will be coaching us for all the WRONG reasons.


plugger66
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 50626
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007 8:15pm
Location: oakleigh

Post: # 1154282Post plugger66 »

gringo wrote:
meher baba wrote:
Dr Spaceman wrote:
meher baba wrote:
Dr Spaceman wrote:And clearly the 3 time premiership coach, the best in the business, will take on the job at $300,000 p.a. :P

Can't see it happening.
Sorry, I've obviously missed something somewhere along the way. Why would we only be paying him $300k per annum?
I made it up.

But the point is, everything suggests we're not looking to appoint a coach who would command the highest salary in the AFL.

And don't forget his contract with Collingwood for 2012. Eddie's not going to just tear that up some expect to add a few hundred thousand to the overall cost of getting Mick.

Therefore, I can't see it happening.
I think we'd be able to find the $$$ we need. If he really wants to come to the club, I reckon Mick might be prepared to settle for a little less than top dollar (as far as I know he hasn't had the same problems as Ross with "mining investments" and is therefore presumably loaded).

I doubt we'll ever hear anything again about Eddie's stupid contract. Rumour has it that the AFL admin have taken a very dim view of it (think about the precedent it sets with free agency coming up) and would exact some sort of retribution if the Pies try to enforce it.

As I have said before who would have him but us? He would have to oust someone currently contracted and risk a Lyon/ Harvey backlash. We are the only club that is openly seeking a coach, the only club that may be capable in the next couple of years of seeing him successful one more time. If he wants to coach again it has to be next year or he is gone for ever, I don't want him but he would pretty much have to take what he could get. $300 000 looks alright compared to special comments at channel 7.
As if he would coach for 300K. He is a 800K coach and he isnt going to do us any favours as regrd to salary. He will not coach us you would think but we must approach him.


Post Reply