Why the login?

matrix · Post: # 1138006Post **matrix** » Wed 14 Sep 2011 1:08pm

talking about the hotmail and googlemail addies

trolls arent really going to use a real address and then carry on like a troll

but its obvious who trolls are
just ban them
no questions asked

HSVKing · Post: # 1138009Post **HSVKing** » Wed 14 Sep 2011 1:09pm

stkildathunda wrote:
matrix wrote:i think its a great idea
and the IP addy is a good idea too
Think you'll find they'll already have your IP address when you register, all they need to do is IP block the trolls.....

We don't get an IP when someone signs up with this board.

Only when they post do we get one, and anyone who knows anything about the internet can get around an IP ban in seconds.

stkildathunda · Wed 14 Sep 2011 1:11pm

HSVKing wrote:
stkildathunda wrote:
matrix wrote:i think its a great idea
and the IP addy is a good idea too
Think you'll find they'll already have your IP address when you register, all they need to do is IP block the trolls.....
We don't get an IP when someone signs up with this board.

Only when they post do we get one, and anyone who knows anything about the internet can get around an IP ban in seconds.

Ah fair enough.. But cmon half the trolls wouldnt know a thing about internet

saintbrat · Post: # 1138013Post **saintbrat** » Wed 14 Sep 2011 1:12pm

block currently occurs at trying to get to a forum= is it possible to block at thread level- so they can see what they are missing ......

matrix · Post: # 1138017Post **matrix** » Wed 14 Sep 2011 1:13pm

it really is simple
like trolls lol

you can tell by their posting
there was three in one thread the other day

just ban them
dont tell them
just do it.

has registration been turned off??

HSVKing · Post: # 1138018Post **HSVKing** » Wed 14 Sep 2011 1:15pm

matrix wrote:talking about the hotmail and googlemail addies

trolls arent really going to use a real address and then carry on like a troll

but its obvious who trolls are
just ban them
no questions asked

You need to have an email address to join, as it sends you an email to finish rego.

So, if they're making fake emails, they really have too much time.

You can't log in until this rego is finished.

HSVKing · Post: # 1138019Post **HSVKing** » Wed 14 Sep 2011 1:15pm

matrix wrote:has registration been turned off??

No.

alex_quick · Wed 14 Sep 2011 1:27pm

i definitely support including membership details into the registration process.

do we really have such a problem with trolls? i can't say i've actually noticed..[/quote]

matrix · Post: # 1138043Post **matrix** » Wed 14 Sep 2011 1:29pm

cant
we are not affiliated with the st kilda footy club
unless we all post a pic holding our membership up to our face with a drivers licence, but like SEN said you cant let a st kilda fan not read and post if they cannot afford a membership

HSVKing · Post: # 1138048Post **HSVKing** » Wed 14 Sep 2011 1:30pm

alex_quick wrote:i definitely support including membership details into the registration process.

do we really have such a problem with trolls? i can't say i've actually noticed..

As previously mentioned...

We are not part of the Football Club, so we cannot gain the confidential information to get names and membership numbers to confirm peoples identity.

Why do people not read? (Also funny that it's coming from someone who just recently joined up).

matrix · Post: # 1138051Post **matrix** » Wed 14 Sep 2011 1:32pm

who still cant get avatar size right

troll!!!!!

Cairnsman · Post: # 1138058Post **Cairnsman** » Wed 14 Sep 2011 1:40pm

What about a troll membership?

If they are given recognition then maybe there would be better understanding and acceptance.

class of 2010 · Wed 14 Sep 2011 1:48pm

it forced me to get my act together and join up after reading the site for 3-4 years

SENsei · Post: # 1138087Post **SENsei** » Wed 14 Sep 2011 2:01pm

HSVKing wrote:
matrix wrote:talking about the hotmail and googlemail addies

trolls arent really going to use a real address and then carry on like a troll

but its obvious who trolls are
just ban them
no questions asked
You need to have an email address to join, as it sends you an email to finish rego.

So, if they're making fake emails, they really have too much time.

You can't log in until this rego is finished.

Been so long since I joined, but is signing up automatic or do they need to be approved?

I understand time restrictions might make it hard to do the latter, but I would suggest this as a way of weeding out the trolls and the like.

Simply deny access to anyone without a genuine email address.

I'd be happy to volunteer to approve or not all new registrations. As long as it is announced that any hotmail or gmail addresses will not be accepted.

PaytonPlace · Wed 14 Sep 2011 2:04pm

Cairnsman wrote:What about a troll membership?

If they are given recognition then maybe there would be better understanding and acceptance.

Can't we give them a troll doll avatar?

HSVKing · Post: # 1138089Post **HSVKing** » Wed 14 Sep 2011 2:04pm

SENsaintsational wrote:Been so long since I joined, but is signing up automatic or do they need to be approved?

I understand time restrictions might make it hard to do the latter, but I would suggest this as a way of weeding out the trolls and the like.

Simply deny access to anyone without a genuine email address.

I'd be happy to volunteer to approve or not all new registrations. As long as it is announced that any hotmail or gmail addresses will not be accepted.

The site sends you an email which you have to follow a link from to finish the rego process.

If the email is fake, you won't get this email, so you can't join with fakes.

saintbrat · Post: # 1138090Post **saintbrat** » Wed 14 Sep 2011 2:04pm

interesting to see time on the list of some who are now logged- random check found one who has never posted _ and that's ok- but joined on march 9 2004- restart day

so they survived the clean out when the russion brides weere deleted-- and there was thought of knocking of any who hadn't posted..

shmic_s · Post: # 1138092Post **shmic_s** » Wed 14 Sep 2011 2:05pm

Cairnsman wrote:What about a troll membership?

If they are given recognition then maybe there would be better understanding and acceptance.

Maybe trialling a opposition supporter membership?

SENsei · Post: # 1138094Post **SENsei** » Wed 14 Sep 2011 2:06pm

Having said that, I originally signed up using a hotmail address that I no longer use!!

SENsei · Post: # 1138098Post **SENsei** » Wed 14 Sep 2011 2:08pm

HSVKing wrote:
SENsaintsational wrote:Been so long since I joined, but is signing up automatic or do they need to be approved?

I understand time restrictions might make it hard to do the latter, but I would suggest this as a way of weeding out the trolls and the like.

Simply deny access to anyone without a genuine email address.

I'd be happy to volunteer to approve or not all new registrations. As long as it is announced that any hotmail or gmail addresses will not be accepted.
The site sends you an email which you have to follow a link from to finish the rego process.

If the email is fake, you won't get this email, so you can't join with fakes.

Not fakes as such. Just non-traceable hotmail addresses. They are easy to get and use, yet are technically not fake.

saintbrat · Post: # 1138099Post **saintbrat** » Wed 14 Sep 2011 2:08pm

180 new members in 3-4 days

and one or two pf those have over 10 posts already---- which can also be a clue to a troll-- posting on every thread...

HSVKing · Post: # 1138103Post **HSVKing** » Wed 14 Sep 2011 2:10pm

SENsaintsational wrote:
HSVKing wrote:
SENsaintsational wrote:Been so long since I joined, but is signing up automatic or do they need to be approved?

I understand time restrictions might make it hard to do the latter, but I would suggest this as a way of weeding out the trolls and the like.

Simply deny access to anyone without a genuine email address.

I'd be happy to volunteer to approve or not all new registrations. As long as it is announced that any hotmail or gmail addresses will not be accepted.
The site sends you an email which you have to follow a link from to finish the rego process.

If the email is fake, you won't get this email, so you can't join with fakes.
Not fakes as such. Just non-traceable hotmail addresses. They are easy to get and use, yet are technically not fake.

If we were to implement all these things that would make the site completely troll-proof, we would be paying a fortune to do so.

All these little extra things do cost money.

SENsei · Post: # 1138108Post **SENsei** » Wed 14 Sep 2011 2:17pm

HSVKing wrote:
SENsaintsational wrote:
HSVKing wrote:
SENsaintsational wrote:Been so long since I joined, but is signing up automatic or do they need to be approved?

I understand time restrictions might make it hard to do the latter, but I would suggest this as a way of weeding out the trolls and the like.

Simply deny access to anyone without a genuine email address.

I'd be happy to volunteer to approve or not all new registrations. As long as it is announced that any hotmail or gmail addresses will not be accepted.
The site sends you an email which you have to follow a link from to finish the rego process.

If the email is fake, you won't get this email, so you can't join with fakes.
Not fakes as such. Just non-traceable hotmail addresses. They are easy to get and use, yet are technically not fake.
If we were to implement all these things that would make the site completely troll-proof, we would be paying a fortune to do so.

All these little extra things do cost money.

Not on sites I have adminned (sp?). It was simply a flick of a switch in the setup.

Do you want to manually approve or automatically approve new members? Same as flicking a switch to make the log in a requirement to view.

I don't think money comes into it.

HSVKing · Post: # 1138112Post **HSVKing** » Wed 14 Sep 2011 2:20pm

SENsaintsational wrote:Not on sites I have adminned (sp?). It was simply a flick of a switch in the setup.

Do you want to manually approve or automatically approve new members? Same as flicking a switch to make the log in a requirement to view.

I don't think money comes into it.

I'm talking about the site not allowing emails from generic email sites.

I know of sites which have this feature, and it does cost to include it.

SENsei · Post: # 1138133Post **SENsei** » Wed 14 Sep 2011 2:56pm

HSVKing wrote:
SENsaintsational wrote:Not on sites I have adminned (sp?). It was simply a flick of a switch in the setup.

Do you want to manually approve or automatically approve new members? Same as flicking a switch to make the log in a requirement to view.

I don't think money comes into it.
I'm talking about the site not allowing emails from generic email sites.

I know of sites which have this feature, and it does cost to include it.

We just did it manually rather than have an automatic program. So money wasn't an issue. But time would be depending on the traffic that came through. We would get about 5 new sign ups a day.