conversation with Brad Johsnon....

kosifantutti23 · Mon 27 Oct 2008 8:09pm

So Brad Johnson thinks Farren Ray is a gun and Fiora's a dud. Good to get an unbiased opinion.

I'm sure he thinks Shane Birss, Anthony Darcy and Jack Frost are superstars.

Saints Premiers 2008 · Mon 27 Oct 2008 8:10pm

kosifantutti23 wrote:So Brad Johnson thinks Farren Ray is a gun and Fiora's a dud. Good to get an unbiased opinion.

I'm sure he thinks Shane Birss, Anthony Darcy and Jack Frost are superstars.

im sure noone really cares about what captain over-rated smiley pants has to say...

maybe his legacy to the league will be that he was once a good dream-team scorer

fingers · Post: # 668201Post **fingers** » Mon 27 Oct 2008 8:41pm

kosifantutti23 wrote:So Brad Johnson thinks Farren Ray is a gun and Fiora's a dud. Good to get an unbiased opinion.

I'm sure he thinks Shane Birss, Anthony Darcy and Jack Frost are superstars.

Settle down...it was a genuine conversation and he didn't say Ray was gun but a good player that he would have liked to keep.

Iceman234 · Post: # 668204Post **Iceman234** » Mon 27 Oct 2008 8:55pm

Saints Premiers 2008 wrote:
kosifantutti23 wrote:So Brad Johnson thinks Farren Ray is a gun and Fiora's a dud. Good to get an unbiased opinion.

I'm sure he thinks Shane Birss, Anthony Darcy and Jack Frost are superstars.
im sure noone really cares about what captain over-rated smiley pants has to say...

maybe his legacy to the league will be that he was once a good dream-team scorer

Maybe his legacy will be that he was a champ who will have played in excess of 350 games by the time he retires....

Armoooo · Post: # 668205Post **Armoooo** » Mon 27 Oct 2008 8:56pm

Iceman234 wrote:
Saints Premiers 2008 wrote:
kosifantutti23 wrote:So Brad Johnson thinks Farren Ray is a gun and Fiora's a dud. Good to get an unbiased opinion.

I'm sure he thinks Shane Birss, Anthony Darcy and Jack Frost are superstars.
im sure noone really cares about what captain over-rated smiley pants has to say...

maybe his legacy to the league will be that he was once a good dream-team scorer
Maybe his legacy will be that he was a champ who will have played in excess of 350 games by the time he retires....

And a consistent 350 games in two of the most important positions on the ground...

He has been a fantastic player over his career and if he played for St Kilda we would always be complaining about the lack of recognition he gets...

kosifantutti23 · Mon 27 Oct 2008 9:43pm

fingers wrote: Settle down...it was a genuine conversation and he didn't say Ray was gun but a good player that he would have liked to keep.

So he was damned with faint praise.

Either way, I'd take with a grain of salt whatever Brad Johnson says about one of his ex-teammates.

Iceman234 · Post: # 668219Post **Iceman234** » Mon 27 Oct 2008 9:44pm

kosifantutti23 wrote:
fingers wrote: Settle down...it was a genuine conversation and he didn't say Ray was gun but a good player that he would have liked to keep.
So he was damned with faint praise.

Either way, I'd take with a grain of salt whatever Brad Johnson says about one of his ex-teammates.

Why?

Please explain....

kosifantutti23 · Mon 27 Oct 2008 9:49pm

Iceman234 wrote:
kosifantutti23 wrote:
fingers wrote: Settle down...it was a genuine conversation and he didn't say Ray was gun but a good player that he would have liked to keep.
So he was damned with faint praise.

Either way, I'd take with a grain of salt whatever Brad Johnson says about one of his ex-teammates.
Why?

Please explain....

If the boot was on the other foot, and Fiora had gone to the Dogs (some might say he already has

) and you were a Dogs supporter and you met Robert Harvey on holiday and you asked him what he though of Fiora.

Would you expect an unbiased opinion?

Iceman234 · Post: # 668221Post **Iceman234** » Mon 27 Oct 2008 9:56pm

kosifantutti23 wrote:
Iceman234 wrote:
kosifantutti23 wrote:
fingers wrote: Settle down...it was a genuine conversation and he didn't say Ray was gun but a good player that he would have liked to keep.
So he was damned with faint praise.

Either way, I'd take with a grain of salt whatever Brad Johnson says about one of his ex-teammates.
Why?

Please explain....
If the boot was on the other foot, and Fiora had gone to the Dogs (some might say he already has ) and you were a Dogs supporter and you met Robert Harvey on holiday and you asked him what he though of Fiora.

Would you expect an unbiased opinion?

Yes.

I have worked with people who have gone to the opposition.

Some I have praised and still do, others I've canned.

Comes down to how you assess the assessor's credibility - fingers clearly assessed Johnno as pretty legit.

FortiusQuoFidelius · Mon 27 Oct 2008 10:15pm

Richter wrote:
FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:Fair dinkum... some of you guys dont really get it do you... No matter what you think of Fiora, he's a contracted player and you cant just dump him. THAT is common sense... anything else is just idiotic!
Pretty sure that is not the case. Yes, his payments count towards our total player payments, but I'm pretty sure that he can be delisted so that we could fit another player in (ala Carroll at MFC) if the club so desireth.

Well, without any of us knowing the terms of his contract, I would suggest that St Kilda would be required to pay out the contract AND it would be included in the TPP.

This of course would be a totally irresposible waste of money!

fingers · Post: # 668230Post **fingers** » Mon 27 Oct 2008 11:01pm

kosifantutti23 wrote:
fingers wrote: Settle down...it was a genuine conversation and he didn't say Ray was gun but a good player that he would have liked to keep.
So he was damned with faint praise.

Either way, I'd take with a grain of salt whatever Brad Johnson says about one of his ex-teammates.

Yeah ok....This is a guy I sat with for about 3 hours, eating, drinking, chatting..with his family...but of course he's being a dick. All I know is that of all the people that have an opinion on this site - he's played with and against both guys in question....nobody else has.

Iceman234 · Post: # 668233Post **Iceman234** » Mon 27 Oct 2008 11:05pm

fingers wrote:
kosifantutti23 wrote:
fingers wrote: Settle down...it was a genuine conversation and he didn't say Ray was gun but a good player that he would have liked to keep.
So he was damned with faint praise.

Either way, I'd take with a grain of salt whatever Brad Johnson says about one of his ex-teammates.
Yeah ok....This is a guy I sat with for about 3 hours, eating, drinking, chatting..with his family...but of course he's being a dick. All I know is that of all the people that have an opinion on this site - he's played with and against both guys in question....nobody else has.

See above.

You assess him as you see him.

I know Johnno and his "wife" Bubba

and I reckon they're top blokes. Certainly far from full of s***.

Good on ya fingers.

kosifantutti23 · Mon 27 Oct 2008 11:29pm

You guys need to sort out the difference between having a biased opinion and being a d1ck.

I also said Harvs would have a biased opinion about Aaron Fiora. Am I calling Harvs a d1ck?

Saints Premiers 2008 · Mon 27 Oct 2008 11:32pm

kosifantutti23 wrote:You guys need to sort out the difference between having a biased opinion and being a d1ck.

I also said Harvs would have a biased opinion about Aaron Fiora. Am I calling Harvs a d1ck?

yes because harvey is now at carlton

st_Trav_ofWA · Tue 28 Oct 2008 1:05am

FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:
Richter wrote:
FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:Fair dinkum... some of you guys dont really get it do you... No matter what you think of Fiora, he's a contracted player and you cant just dump him. THAT is common sense... anything else is just idiotic!
Pretty sure that is not the case. Yes, his payments count towards our total player payments, but I'm pretty sure that he can be delisted so that we could fit another player in (ala Carroll at MFC) if the club so desireth.
Well, without any of us knowing the terms of his contract, I would suggest that St Kilda would be required to pay out the contract AND it would be included in the TPP.

This of course would be a totally irresposible waste of money!

heres and idea get fizz to the dees where we pay his last years contract and send carrol here and they pay his !!! win win we lose the softest player to play the game and gain a mongrel SOB ... thats fair ??

saintly · Post: # 668262Post **saintly** » Tue 28 Oct 2008 7:37am

Richter wrote:
FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:Fair dinkum... some of you guys dont really get it do you... No matter what you think of Fiora, he's a contracted player and you cant just dump him. THAT is common sense... anything else is just idiotic!
Pretty sure that is not the case. Yes, his payments count towards our total player payments, but I'm pretty sure that he can be delisted so that we could fit another player in (ala Carroll at MFC) if the club so desireth.

depends if you want to pay him out. if the saints are at 100% oof the cap, they could not pay him out as it goes into the TPP.

SAINT JUMP · Post: # 668541Post **SAINT JUMP** » Tue 28 Oct 2008 9:55pm

i hope fizz doesnt read this site. his oppion of some supporters, on here, would be worst than theres on him.dont bag players, it just might come back to bite you. support them, thats what were there for. some have got a little bit personal on their comments on fizz. how degrading.

Saints Premiers 2008 · Tue 28 Oct 2008 10:19pm

there have been many worse players to play for us

the fact is he doesn't go in and get his own pill naturally...like dal santo ...shudder

if he doesn't get supply from the insiders he does not run, carry and kick long

simple

stinger · Post: # 668556Post **stinger** » Tue 28 Oct 2008 10:31pm

SAINT JUMP wrote:i hope fizz doesnt read this site. his oppion of some supporters, on here, would be worst than theres on him.dont bag players, it just might come back to bite you. support them, thats what were there for. some have got a little bit personal on their comments on fizz. how degrading.

well...they did at one time...until the club banned them.......the criticism on here caused one young player lots of heartache....and that comes from his mum......not me....there was a bit in the papers about it at the time.....

i actually know one of the players......but i have never discussed this site with him......be too ashamed to associate myself with it....not for my posts...mind you......but for the ones who regularly character assassinate their favorite whipping boys......fizz included.....

SAINT JUMP · Tue 28 Oct 2008 11:12pm

pretty sad when your own supporters, can cause a player so much grief. wonder how it would, effect him on the field.

SainterK · Post: # 668577Post **SainterK** » Tue 28 Oct 2008 11:45pm

Also pretty sad when you defend a player, and you in turn become the target...

Teflon · Post: # 668579Post **Teflon** » Tue 28 Oct 2008 11:58pm

also sad to see the price of pies at the footy...but I mean why whinge about it it aint gonna change yeah?....

bobmurray · Post: # 668581Post **bobmurray** » Wed 29 Oct 2008 12:03am

It's even sadder to think players would get sucked in by any of the shite
they could read on here or any other forum.....

No wonder their form is so up and down...mentally fragile..

Little Dozer · Wed 29 Oct 2008 12:20am

Saints Premiers 2008 wrote:
kosifantutti23 wrote:So Brad Johnson thinks Farren Ray is a gun and Fiora's a dud. Good to get an unbiased opinion.

I'm sure he thinks Shane Birss, Anthony Darcy and Jack Frost are superstars.
im sure noone really cares about what captain over-rated smiley pants has to say...

maybe his legacy to the league will be that he was once a good dream-team scorer

No his legacy will be similar to that of Robert Harvey's. Universally respected by everyone in football.

Saint Mik · Post: # 668587Post **Saint Mik** » Wed 29 Oct 2008 4:45am

bobmurray wrote:It's even sadder to think players would get sucked in by any of the shite
they could read on here or any other forum.....

No wonder their form is so up and down...mentally fragile..

Imagime when they find out about Santa

Said it before and I will say it again, its a crock of shyte and if you beleive that our players would get upset at what they read on here you are as fragile as the so called players minds

Stinger get a flowering grip will ya you sound like a little Mummies boy, its no wonder that a players mum can get the heart strings going

The Fizz and others would NOT give a shyte what was said on here, no player at AFL level is soft they just play different roles.

At least the Fizz gets the best out of himself as Johnno has said in conversation, shyte we would have more than just the one flag if some of our so called super stars would follow his lead

I wont bag our players but I will take note when they are not putting in *cough* DAL SANTO, geez sorry where did that come from, I can still picture DAL copping a massive spray from the Hawks players after not chasing at all out of the center and allowing an easy goal in that final

and yes it is still burning inside of me.

All credit to the Fizz I reckon for getting the best out of himself