“Get up, get up. We don’t f***ing do that here”

[Vortex]

It was always on the cards that someone would derail the discussion of Ross Lyon blasting a player who had thrown in the towel during a training session into a question about the effect this might have on the team's destiny under this style of management.

Like all of these conversations, it depends entirely on whether you're a glass half full person (optimist), or glass half empty (pessimist).

It's also about managing expectations: the optimistic Saints fan will usually start the new season absolutely positive that the team will improve on the previous year wheras the neutral fan will sit on the fence and await developments.

The pessimistic fan, on the other hand, is not at all impressed with the improved quality of the list and rather than give credit to what the new coach achieved in his first year back (a lot of luck), argue that he could turn out to be a dud since he failed in the final quarter of his last gig at Fremantle, sinking the boot in further by adding it was "Ross's dictatorship style that turned the playing group against him at Freo."

Don't be a fireman and squirt your pistol at the flames from a safe distance, step into the flames and pour petrol into the belly of heat like a real man. I'm OK with full frontal possum so don't be shy.

[The Fireman]

I thought our incendiary friends arson attack was quite succinct.