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Vortex wrote: ↑Fri 18 Sep 2020 3:51pm
Claiming small forwards being our problem is misguided. ALL players full stop have struggled to kick goals and that has become harder as the season got longer. The soccer type score lines should tell you that
The long and the short of it is we started the season as being the 5th to 8th best team and irrespective of whether we beat GWS tonight or if we miss out on finals even, nothing has changed. We have a 5th to 8th best list. We don't need any more game time to confirm the obvious.
The benifit of this season has been nothing more than getting game time into a developing side. If we rid ourselves of COVID-19 and can get back to full strength competition in 2021 and recruit players for our well known deficiency in the middle then we will start 2021 as being capable of punching into the top 4. If we don't recruit said players and/or dont get organic growth within then we will still be an 5th to 8th best team in 2021.
The signs are good but patience is still needed and all the pressure is on our recruiting department. If we dont get it right at the trade table this year then our development will stall.
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Kind of disagree. We are no more a developing side than any of the others, but we are quite a bit a top up side than some.
I think we did start the season as a mid-ladder prospect. But things have changed in my opinion. We are now a lower-to mid ladder prospect.
We recruited to step up and leverage the barren years of development that have already taken place. Not to develop from scratch.
Players not likely to improve are evident.
Players with chronic soft tissue injuries are also evident.
Our defense was out muscled last few weeks. Their honeymoon is over. The only KPP with a huge upside is KIng. Coff, and Hunter Clark have a way to go you would hope.
Hill is a champ, but we can’t expect him to get much better.
But the coaching and strategy side is where we have hope. This is where I am dreaming.
Coaching is overrated to a certain degree and although it's difficult to put a metric on it, there is probably only a few degeees of difference in game plans between finals capable sides. And then a few more degrees difference between sides in the bottom 6.
Execution is what separates the big tomatoes from the rest. For all of the band width wasted by fans expousing thier coaching pedigress, it really all comes down to the team who has the optimum critical mass of quality players to execute. It's that simple.
Last edited by Vortex on Fri 18 Sep 2020 6:58pm, edited 1 time in total.
Don't hug the boundary. Go up the corridor.
Play on at all costs.
Don't give the oppo time to set up.
Even if we turn it over, the oppo can't waltz in freely like WCE did, because the players will be spread evenly.
Anyway...
A real Sainter will pledge allegiance to the ❤ and despise the Pies, the Blues, and the Injectors.
Remember one of the 10 Commandments : Thou shalt have no other team before thee
We have the ruck combo to combat GWS midfield strength. Mummy is cooked so Ryder needs to be putting it down the throat of our mids. Our bookends are similar. Their forwards are better than ours but our defence is better than theirs. Carlise and Howard need to have blinders. Greene is the wild card so need to shut him down.
stkfc1 wrote: ↑Fri 18 Sep 2020 7:27pm
We have the ruck combo to combat GWS midfield strength. Mummy is cooked so Ryder needs to be putting it down the throat of our mids. Our bookends are similar. Their forwards are better than ours but our defence is better than theirs. Carlise and Howard need to have blinders. Greene is the wild card so need to shut him down.
Composure. That's what will win the game.
I think our ruck combo is key.
Ryder just needs to do what he does best and dominate the hitouts for the bulk of the game.
Marshall should just do Marshall things. I'm not sure I have ever seen a quicker student of the game.
Last year it was learning to be number 1 ruck. This year it has been how to play second ruck and key forward. It only takes him a month or so of footy to adjust.
I'm sure you could make him play as a midfielder and he'd be racking up 25+ a game in no time.
Vortex wrote: ↑Fri 18 Sep 2020 3:51pm
Claiming small forwards being our problem is misguided. ALL players full stop have struggled to kick goals and that has become harder as the season got longer. The soccer type score lines should tell you that
The long and the short of it is we started the season as being the 5th to 8th best team and irrespective of whether we beat GWS tonight or if we miss out on finals even, nothing has changed. We have a 5th to 8th best list. We don't need any more game time to confirm the obvious.
The benifit of this season has been nothing more than getting game time into a developing side. If we rid ourselves of COVID-19 and can get back to full strength competition in 2021 and recruit players for our well known deficiency in the middle then we will start 2021 as being capable of punching into the top 4. If we don't recruit said players and/or dont get organic growth within then we will still be an 5th to 8th best team in 2021.
The signs are good but patience is still needed and all the pressure is on our recruiting department. If we dont get it right at the trade table this year then our development will stall.
.
Kind of disagree. We are no more a developing side than any of the others, but we are quite a bit a top up side than some.
I think we did start the season as a mid-ladder prospect. But things have changed in my opinion. We are now a lower-to mid ladder prospect.
We recruited to step up and leverage the barren years of development that have already taken place. Not to develop from scratch.
Players not likely to improve are evident.
Players with chronic soft tissue injuries are also evident.
Our defense was out muscled last few weeks. Their honeymoon is over. The only KPP with a huge upside is KIng. Coff, and Hunter Clark have a way to go you would hope.
Hill is a champ, but we can’t expect him to get much better.
But the coaching and strategy side is where we have hope. This is where I am dreaming.
Coaching is overrated to a certain degree and although it's difficult to put a metric on it, there is probably only a few degeees of difference in game plans between finals capable sides. And then a few more degrees difference between sides in the bottom 6.
Execution is what separates the big tomatoes from the rest. For all of the band width wasted by fans expousing thier coaching pedigress, it really all comes down to the team who has the optimum critical mass of quality players to execute. It's that simple.
Point taken..but then what?
Then the coaches have to play to the strengths of their team and pick out the gaps in the opposition. And they have to transmit this to the players.
I tell you what I think is overrated (thanks Shane Grambeau you champ)
That is clean forward 50 delivery. How many goals are kicked from lace out delivery and mark at clear advantage except from when there has been a sudden mishap and turnover at half back which led to all players being out of position and then there is a nice pass and mark? Now sometimes the forwards just out monster the defender but they are often just helicopters of 50/50 in balls.
and despise the Pies, the Blues, and the Injectors.
